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Suzuki Kizashi

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  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,415
    I like the Kizashi, but it comes up short in a few areas when compared to the 2011 Sonata. Gas mileage especially has me puzzled. If you get the good wheels, the Kizashi mpg actually goes down. Sonata rates all its wheel sizes the same. What is up with that?

    My SX4 AWD runs great. However, why does a AWD Legacy or Outback get better mileage? Suzuki sales will never take off as long as their models have run-of-the-mill mpg ratings.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    edited March 2010
    good points. I went to a Suzuki dealership in west Phoenix (Avondale) yesterday while my 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS was getting a detailing done and a L-O-F. Ya know, it was a blue Kizashi and a white one, and I didn't really like either of them.

    But to be honest and fair, I need to see a Kizashi in Vivid Red and Platinum Silver Metallic. Then I'll know for sure. I am weird about colors. They define a car for me. And I know there's something to it. My 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS is so good looking that it makes me feel ashamed for looking at younger women. :shades:

    Know what I might mean there? The '08 Lancer GTS looks so good and I really love it in Rally Red. Mitsubishi got it down so well with the Lancer GTS. I'm so glad I got the GTS with it's bodycladding and foglights and Rockford Fosgate stereo a 'pumpin'.

    Don't know about the mpg with Suzuki. However, I remain enchanted with their new Kizashi and I think that I can get 30mpg anyway on the highway with the 2010 Suzuki Kizashi GTS in 6-speed form. Foghat and The Tragically Hip will sound great on the 425-watt Rockford Fosgate stereo, too, I am sure of it.

    I am close to trading the '08 Lancer GTS in on a 2010 Suzuki Kizashi. But not totally sure I will do it. I'll keep y'all posted at any rate. Right now it's all fluid, baby.

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    That Kizashi looks to be the gunmetal grey. Looks pretty hot in that shade as well. Crikey, this baby is only getting hotter to me every time I look at it. I'm gonna have ta buy one. I will wear the Suzuki 'S' proudly. If they bargain well with me, that is.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,415
    They will bargain with you or they won't make a sale. Suzuki sales are way down, and thus far, the Kizashi is not turning that around. They don't have many models to begin with. The Equator is a Nissan truck that doesn't sell that well as a Nissan. The Grand Vitara is greatly in need of a redesign. The SX4 models (I have one) are good cars, but the design is getting old, and even with the mpg improvements this past year, it is still at the back of the pack. The Kizashi is well-styled (though a bit conservative) and well-equipped for the money. But in a comparison of mid-size sedans in the real world, it got the poorest mpg and road noise, though subdued, was greater than in the other cars (Camry, Fusion, Mazda6, Altima, Malibu, Legacy). It is of course more nimble than cars like the Camry, but you give up some space too.

    It is very odd that the smallest car gets the poorest mileage. One claim to fame went away immediately: Kizashi having the highest hp in its class. That was only with the manual transmission anyway (the GM engine has 182 hp), and now both the 2011 Sonata and Optima trump it by going to 200 hp...with better mpg.

    I really don't think Suzuki will be a contender until VW starts lending a hand. Without VW, it would go the way of Isuzu in this country. It really is too bad they have had so little understanding of the American market. They have the Indian market sewn up.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    edited March 2010
    great points on the Kizashi. I appreicate them. Yeah, the salesman for Suzuki came over from the Kia lot next door. Not much action going on at either one, really.

    He told me that Suzuki makes so much money in motorcycles and marine (really, marine? I thought they were the motorcycle kings of Japan?) that they don't really need the automotive sales. He told me they don't care...then recanted and said they care, but don't need the sales.

    I knew what he meant, anyway. I remain interested in the car but my '08 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS is such a good car that it is making it hard to trade it in. I'll let ya know what happens. I could probably get a really good deal on the Kizashi right now because they're probably not selling very well. I know I haven't seen one in either Tucson or Phoenix.

    I'm driving up to Phoenix again today so I'll keep my eyes peeled for one. Going by internet technical data and reviews I've read from new owners the car is being well appreciated by early buyers. One reviewer that bought a 6-speed says that it handles great, steers aptly and his Kizashi shifts better than his Audi 3's shifter/clutch mechanism does. That is saying something. I will need to drive one to really tell, though.

    They are saying that it does not eminate a lot of road noise, too. However, that type of detail can be subjective, because of the type of car people are coming out of.

    There's only two Suzuki dealers in the state of Arizona. One in Phoenix and one in Tucson. I don't think they're going to pull out of the U.S. market. Just yet, anyway.

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    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    edited March 2010
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    a 2010 Suzuki Kizashi GTS in pearl black color and an automatic transmission. Nice interior, switches for the heater/AC were a little confusing. Stereo switchgear was intuitive and worked well. The car steered and handled very well. Quite impressive on all counts, really.

    The car took bumps in stride, it made larger bumps seem like little blips as you went over them. I wanted to drive a manual tranny Kizashi but the dealership I went to in Henderson, NV, didn't have any manual trannied Kizashi's out on the lot. They did have a Vivid Red one in the showroom.

    Negotiations didn't go well, in other words, they lowballed me on my '08 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS trade-in and wouldn't budge. They wouldn't take under MSRP so I walked. They took a few hundred dollars off but it wasn't enough and I just left with my Lancer GTS. I'm happy just keeping my Lancer GTS. It really is a great car and I think it looks hotter than the Kizashi, too.

    I might've bargained keener if I had driven the manual tranny Kizashi. I still like the car and will keep it in mind for later.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,415
    good for you for walking...it is just a car, and you already have a good one. plus, have they seen for example the 2011 Kia Optima that will cost no more, but will offer more hp, room and style? methinks they will be dealing with you soon to your liking...or Kizashi will become another also ran that coulda been a contenda
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    edited March 2010
    yep, and this SE Arizona padre just can't seem to get the 2010 Suzuki Kizashi out of his mind. This test drive was profitable in that I learned how the car drives out in real life. Not just reading the comments here on Edmunds.

    And it drives like a dream! It takes bumps and just melds them into mincemeat! I really think Suzuki has out-done themselves with the Kizashi. BTW-I live about 80 miles from Tucson, and Tucson is home to one of only two Suzuki stores in the state of Arizona. One is in Avondale(a western burb of Phoenix), where we bought our '08 Lancer GTS. The other is Royal Suzuki of Tucson. Perfect. Laid back Tucson salesmen should be much easier to deal with than the Las Vegas card sharks I tried to deal with in Henderson, NV. What a bunch of losers.

    The 6-speed Kizashi over in Henderson was a Vivid Red Kizashi. The one I think will look just awesome is what Suzuki calls Platinum Silver Metallic.

    Oh yeah, baby, the hunt is on. They say men are the hunters. I feel like I'm on a Kizashi hunt here. ;)

    This is what I'm talkin' about, baby.

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    BTW, gregg vw, you still have your SX-4, right? What else do you have in your stable? Refresh my memory.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    edited March 2010
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    You see how the painted alloys look against the silver paint and the foglights on and such? I love that on this car! And how the headlights look with the mirrored chrome inside and such. Looks great.

    The GTS model shown is only $23,244.

    Here's a review I just found that is making my mind up on getting a Kizashi. Check this out. I've been wanting to get a car with a manual transmission for a while and here's my chance to do just that. Check this review out, friends.

    Vehicle

    2010 Suzuki Kizashi GTS 4dr Sedan (2.4L 4cyl 6M)

    Review

    Haven't had this much fun driving a car since 1978! Great fun with 6 spd.manual transmission, great pick-up and performance...watch out...in 6th gear you can go from 75-100 in a split second without trying to! LOVE MY KIZASHI!

    Favorite Features

    Interior! Fosgate sound! Smooth ride! Mileage!

    Suggested Improvements

    None so far
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    Here's another one I like.

    Vehicle

    2010 Suzuki Kizashi SLS 4dr Sedan AWD (2.4L 4cyl CVT)

    Review

    Iwas waiting for that car for more than a month. First i want to get GTS AWD CVT but they dont make it yet so i put order for SLS AWD CVT. I took delivery on 2/18 and the car had 24 miles on it. Now i can't say to much about acceleration because i have 350miles and still i am brake in a car but driving on high way taking few seconds to get to 80mph. So far i can say car is cool and fun to drive. On snow car feel steady. Interior its nice and it has a lots of room. Car has a lot of features for that price. If you will buy different car with those futures you will pay much more.

    Favorite Features

    stereo system, moon roof, AWD, paddle shifters, sunroof, push to stat button, auto wipers and lights.

    Suggested Improvements

    Blind spot warning, 6 cd changer, buck up camera should be standard in all trims and standard navigation in SLS will be nice.

    I am thinking of returning to the Pacific Northwest and in Pullman one does have a lot of snow to deal with. Yes, the home of Wasington State University, Pullman. We'll see, I have had a phone interview that went very well. I am going to check out Suzuki dealers in the Pacific Northwest in the Pullman region. I know there's one in Spokane. I miss my homeland, which is actually the Seattle area. But this hospital I'm applying for a job at is winning patient satisfaction awards and it is winning 'Top 100 hospitals to work at in the U.S.' awards as well. I'm very interested! And it does snow a lot in Pullman.

    They do plow the streets there, but my 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS, though a great car, might have trouble in the snow, due to it's high-performance, low-profile Pirelli P-Zero Nero M&S Pinna tires. Don't get me wrong, they're great tires. But I suspect the tires with the Lancer suspension and racecar type setup might cause me trouble up in Palouse country.

    I'm all excited about the Kizashi and the job in Pullman. Aw, schucks. :shades:

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • Anyone have thoughts (or compared for themselves) an AWD Kizashi SE or GTS with the Legacy 2.5i or 2.5GT?

    There are features I like better on the Legacy, but it seems like the Kizashi tends to be more fun to drive.
  • I've driven all kinds of cars/trucks in the past including a GMC truck, Saab, VW Jetta TDI, BMW, and MB C-Class AWD. My last car was a 2009 Suzuki SX4 AWD automatic touring crossover. The SX4 was just ok, and didn't ignite any passions. THEN, I test drove the Kizashi when it finally came to Denver. It reminded me so much of my most favorite car, a 2005 MB C-Class AWD. I was instantly in love. For over a month, I thought long and hard about whether I really wanted another Suzuki. I really have never been a fan of the company. But, perceptions can change. I ultimately got a 2010 Suzuki Kizashi SLS AWD Automatic in Platinum Silver. I love it more than the MB I used to own...and that's saying volumes as I considered that MB my first born child. The Kizashi's handling begs you to push it to its limits around curves and up mountains. All this fretting about no V6 and only 180/185hp is laughable. Just go test drive the car. You will see that the car doesn't need it. Yes, I was skeptical too. However, zooming up I-70 into the Colorado Rockies (going at least 80mph on a significant incline while passing up a new black Bentley Continental) alleviated any concerns for me. For those worried about mpg, go get a Prius, Fusion hybrid, or Jetta TDI. Consider Kizashi to be more of an athletic sports sedan (not unlike Audi A4), not an econobox. Oh, and by the way, comparisons of the Kizashi to a Jetta are upsetting, as I have owned a Jetta---it's NO Jetta. Kizashi is larger in real life. Internet photos make the Kizashi look small, but it has much more interior space than Jetta or the MB C-Class. Kizashi may not be for everyone, but it certainly strikes the right chord for me.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    edited April 2010
    I loved your review of your new Kizashi! I have test drove a '10 Suzuki Kizashi GTS in automatic CVT. I didn't even test the CVT in my test drive, I was so blown away by the Kizashi's smooth drive. It handles and corners like a dream. I want a Platinum Metallic Silver GTS, preferably in 6-speeds. Like this one here. I am going to be getting a new job here in a few weeks so buying is probably not in my immediate future.

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    2010 Suzuki Kizashi GTS

    It would be more like 3-6 months down the road. But this is the car I can't seem to get out of my mind. And I have a nice car, a 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    edited April 2010
    for Kizashi.

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    Note the new wheels, with their more intricate inner pattern there. Man, glad I waited on this pup to come along. Suzuki execs say that the GTS model will still come in at around $23,400. They've added some new chrome to the front fascia along with the wheel package. I think the whole car looks even better with this new Sport package. Here's some other looks at the Sport Kizashi.

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    Notice that new chrome up there? Looks pretty sharp. I am liking this particular red one here. I'm still hunting and gathering and looking at color preferences while I get slowly closer to attempting to explain to my wife that not only do I need another job we need a 2011 Suzuki Kizashi Sport GTS in 6-speed transmission.

    Hey, I also notice an orange turn signal indicator just above the foglights that isn't there on the 2010 Suzuki Kizashi, too. You can compare by just checking my above post where I've placed a picture of a 2010 Suzuki Kizashi GTS in Platinum Silver Metallic.

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    All Suzuki Kizashi's have push-button start. On my test drive of a 2010 Suzuki Kizashi GTS with the automatic CVT transmission I got to start the Kizashi by only pressing a button. I've never done that before, it is kind of strange if you haven't started a car that way before. I'll want to be depressing the clutch pedal on my Kizashi GTS before push-button starting it, huh.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • prigglypriggly Posts: 642
    The overall look of the new Kizashi is favorable but the wheel configurations are terrible - far, far too busy! Can you imagine how difficult it would be to clean brake dust off those wheels??!
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    edited April 2010
    you think those wheels are too busy? I don't. Oh well. My '08 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS has wheels that are less busy-more just straight spoke. Like this.

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    But those wheels on the 2011 Suzuki Kizashi Sport do not appear to me to be too busy. They look pretty good and they're done artfully. Here's a close-up view of the Sport's wheel setup.

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    I like 'em. :)

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    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    edited April 2010
    in polar white. This car looks quite impressive in white. It enthuses me like a real car enthusiast's car should. Might have ta buy one. :blush:

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    Offered exclusively on Kizashi GTS and SLS trim levels, Suzuki's new 'Sport' variant of its sleek and sophisticated sport sedan is scheduled to go on sale in the United States this August. Pricing for the all-new 2011 Suzuki Kizashi Sport will be announced closer to the vehicle's arrival in dealer showrooms.

    Sorry ta disappoint you, but I've already snorked from an online article somewhere that the 2011 Suzuki Kizashi Sport will be priced very close to the 2010 Suzuki Kizashi GTS. For example, the 2010 Suzuki Kizashi GTS in 6-speed form will cost about $23,400. The 2011 Suzuki Kizashi Sport GTS will no doubt cost around $23,775. Or thereabouts.

    Cool. I am continuing to make slow plans to get one of these 2011 Suzuki Kizashi Sport's. I didn't even know the Sport model was coming. They pleasureably blindsided me on that one. ;)

    Elko, NV, will be a great place to own one of these 2011 Suzuki Kizashi Sport's. I can just feel it in me bones, gentlemen.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    edited April 2010
    to a theater near you. Random thoughts on the new 2011 Suzuki Kizashi Sport.

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    Check out all of the engineering that goes in to this new Suzuki. There is nothing else like the Kizashi in this category of car on the road today! Why might that be?

    Well, let's talk about it. For starters show me another car in the segment that has: aluminum pistons with low tensile force rings, forged connecting rods, forged crankshaft, a timing chain (not a belt), balance shafts, hydraulic valve lifters and coil-over ignition. There are none.

    Trust me, the above information means this car will be a great performer and is better engineered than anything in its category and price level. The prices are going to start around 19k, and go up to 25k for a totally loaded version complete with AWD! To get anything even close to this car you will have to spend at least 10k to 20K more than you will with Kizashi.

    Suzuki tends to put it's money where you can't see it, unlike other brands that sell a fancy interior on a crusty old driveframe. Multi-link fully independent suspension too, no piddly semi-trailing arms or torsion beams to be found on this car.

    Combine all those features with the AWD option and there's plenty to differentiate this car from Honda's, Toyota's, VW's and Subaru's, etc. Great job, Suzuki!

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    edited April 2010
    am I the only licensed driver in these United States of America that wants to buy one of these 2011 Suzuki Kizashi Sport's?

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    I'm startin' ta get a hankerin' for the 2011 Suzuki Kizashi Sport in white. Suzuki calls this white 'Radiant White'. I see their point.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,950
    Well, 13 other people bought them and posted reviews to the right. Maybe them and you are the whole market for this car. ;)
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    edited April 2010
    I'm starting to wonder if you're not right!

    Heck, the Kizashi Sport, due out in August 2010 as a 2011 Suzuki model, offers a 10-way adustable driver's seat, safety-passed through the year 2014, a 185-hp 2.4L 4 cylin. motor with a 6-speed transmission, foglights, leather-gripped steering wheel and gearknob, side body cladding, side moulding, sunroof, 425-watt Rockford Fosgate stereo, cloth seating(very comfortable BTW-I test drove one at a Henderson, NV, dealer, very comfortable seating) and climate control for the front and back. All for $23,795!

    The car drives like a dream. I kid you not m6user, you should test drive one. I don't see what's going to keep me away from a Suzuki dealer. Getting turned down for a loan would do it, yes. ;)

    The car seems to have firmly implanted itself underneath my skin. When we do get up to NE Nevada the closest dealer will be where steve (your host here) resides, Boise, ID. It will be they that must cow-tow to my every purchasing desire or I'll be forced to stay with my 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS.

    Darn.

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    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

    The 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS is indeed gorgeous and also drives like a dream. Why am I looking at the 2011 Suzuki Kizashi Sport, then?

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    edited April 2010
    I found my 2010 Suzuki Kizashi GTS 6-speed in Platinum Metallic Silver for only $21,998! Here's a picture from this undisclosed dealership's website of the actual Kizashi I would run in and trade our 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS for.

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    2010 Suzuki Kizashi GTS in Platinum Metallic Silver (awesome shade for this car)

    This is a 6-speed manual Kizashi GTS, just the model I want. It is at the best-selling Suzuki dealer in the U.S. I won't mention the dealership's name as I am not allowed by Edmunds, but I will say that I am trying to get a job that is within 212 miles of this dealership. Think Cornhusker's and you'll be honing yourself in to where I might be moving to to live and work.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

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