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Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable Wagons

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  • Interesting... and thanks! It looks like my first post on that topic in this group even beat the first post in that thread...

    But a Taurus X? I'm sorry, no interest here...

    My Sable/Taurus history?? My ex-wife and I had bought a 1989 Sable Wagon to replace a totalled Bronco II. Loved it, so we bought a matching 1989 Sable Sedan. I drove the heck out of that '89 Sedan with no major problems, all over the country on business. Then she got ownership of the '89 wagon during a divorce, and I leased a '94 Sable Wagon. Mostly a lease so she couldn't touch it during the divorce proceedings.

    After the '94 lease was up, I leased a 1996 Sable Sedan in '96. Decided I hated it, because I needed all that loading space in the back to move stuff around.

    So then I got the '98 Sable Wagon. Now it's still under 60,000 miles, sure I've had some problems, but for the most part, it's been great. I did buy a 2003 Sable Sedan at the end of 2003, (0% interest for six years, why not?). It's running just fine, but I still prefer the road "feel" and handling of the 1998 better. I think in the 2003 they added some sort of "power-assisted" steering which makes it feel much more mushier, in my opinion. Rides decent, I just prefer the '98 flavor.

    Anyway, nothing I've seen hints any indication of bringing back a Sable or Taurus Wagon, other than the so-called Taurus X. (Not interested, frankly!)

    I guess the "X" stands for Cross as in Cross-over? No thanks, but I still would like to find a decent "wagon", as I'm just NOT an SUV kind of guy.
  • nmknmk Posts: 111
    I have a 2000 Sable LS wagon that was struck in the right rear causing the vehicle to be declared "Totaled" by the insurance company. :sick: :mad:

    We still have it, don't ask why.

    HOWEVER, we have since purchased a Mazda CX-7 and am surprised at the technological advances which makes for safety and drivability improvements beyond that which your cars may have. It also makes driving much more pleasurable :) .
  • Thanks, nmk.

    Actually, yeah, when Ford first announced they were discontinuing the Sable/Taurus wagon (the topic of this thread, after all...) I did start looking around at my choices, and the Mazda-6 Wagon looked like a nice replacement for the Sable Wagon, actually. :shades:

    Not sure how much I'm interested in the CX-7 (again, X for that "cross-over" designation...?)

    Now are they getting rid of the Mazda-6 Sport Wagon and forcing people to go with the CX-7??? :confuse:
  • nmknmk Posts: 111
    Well, you might want to consider the Mazda speed 3 Wagon. I have just read a review of it and it has the same engine as the 6 and cx-7.

    What I read sounds like a fun car as well.

    All the best
  • We had about 3-4 inches of snow last night, so I got up early this morning to get into work before all the rest of the traffic.

    I was only about 2 more miles from where I work, driving along by myself on the interstate when suddenly, one of those concrete median dividers just jumped up and ran out in front of my car!! :cry:

    Yes, I was driving the wagon, and yes, it's injured, and was just towed off to the repair shop... :sick:

    Think I might have more than just front end damage. The brake pedal now has no play to it and the engine was running damn rough, but hey... the airbags didn't even deploy, I wasn't hurt, didn't hit or hurt anyone else, so all in all count my blessings...

    My poor wagon, though.... ::sniff sniff::

    I just wish those darn concrete median dividers would stay where they are supposed to! :mad:
  • nmknmk Posts: 111
    If you care to, send me an email nkabak@msn.com and we can discuss my 2000 Sabel LX for some small consideration.
  • I have a 2000 Ford Taurus Wagon and need more specific information on where the rear washer fluid tank is located and where the pump is. Can someone help please.
  • nmknmk Posts: 111
    I knew someone had asked this question previously. :blush:
    The answer is in message # 448

    For anyone elses future reference, the rear washer fluid reservoir is behind the rear passenger panel in the back of the wagon. It is just underneath where the CD changer would be if you have one with the vehicle.

    Thank MyTools
  • Sorry, nmk, but as much as I like the Wagon, I don't think I'd buy one used. ;)

    I was looking around this weekend in case I need to replace mine. I just don't like at all where Ford has gone. I don't like the "Freestyle" (soon to be Taurus X), I don't like the Edge, I certainly don't like the Focus Wagon, I don't want a Mariner/Escape, as I don't like SUV's.

    I think I'm about to buy my first Subaru. Looking at the Outback, it has the loading floor platform with fold down seats that I came to love from the Mercury Sable.

    Is it just me or is the Ford Motor styling just hideous to most people? I looked at the Mercury Mariner and it just makes me want to puke.

    Anyway, I'll find out this week if my '98 Sable Wagon is totalled or not... I suspect it will be worth a lot more to them in parts.

    Body Shop has estimated over $1500 in body work alone in the front, and that doesn't even include any mechanical systems. :sick:

    Oh -well-... it almost made 9 years old... :cry:
  • nmknmk Posts: 111
    Well, I still think you might consider it if your nearby.
    Driven gently, by two "Silver Foxes". :blush:

    Yes there is cosmetic damage in the right rear, and the rear door cannot be opened. :cry:

    However, it is in great running condition. :shades:

    Think it over.

    NK
  • danielj6danielj6 Posts: 285
    My 2000 Sable wagon was declared a total loss by my insurer after driving on a parkway and while crossing an intersection on green light I hit a minivan driven by a kid learning to drive with his uncle. This happened close to three years ago.

    I came out with burned wrists from the deployment of front airbags and a sore neck. I got pretty good money from the insurance company from top of the line Sable.

    The reality is that even if they restore your wagon, it may never be like it was before the collision because the damage may be more extensive than your insurer believes it to be.

    I still miss my Sable, but I believe I did well by letting it go.
  • Well they are giving me about $2400 for the repairs. I know it may never be the same, but mostly now I'm using it for local errands (the load floor in back is great). It was about $800-900 short of being totalled. They told me $3366 was the "magic number" to write it off. :surprise:

    The body shop/collision repair shop should be done with it next week. I'm driving it straight over from there to my Mercury service dealer, who maintained it the last six years to see if they can find anything that the body shop missed.

    That Subie wagon is looking better and better, but go figure, I just can't afford two car payments.

    After $2400 in repairs, I'll keep it for a while and see how it does. I just hope they haven't turned it from :shades: into a :lemon:
  • danielj6danielj6 Posts: 285
    After a collision, the car may or may not be repaired and
    may not be restored to specifications unless is sent back to the factory.

    Today insurance companies, opt for declaring a car that was in an accident a to total loss. They pay the owner and be done with it rather than have to pay to replace air bags which are very expensive to replace.

    Subaru's car are very expensive and the array of different models is mind boggling. You may want to keep in mind that the Sable wagon is coming back replacing the Freestyle name.
  • Sent back to the factory??? I don't know of anyone in a collision where the car gets sent back to the factory...??

    That being said, they did decide to repair the car. As I had mentioned, the airbags never deployed, it wasn't that severe of a crash, but expensive enough as it was.

    After the repair shop was finished I immediately drove it over to my Merc dealer who examined the mechanical repairs done on the car and felt that they had done a good job of repair, at least mechanically. I'm not fond of the new scratches the body shop managed to inflict on the paint, but hey, at least it's up and running again. Running pretty good, actually, after my 60,000 mile maintenance as well...

    Of course it's not the same as brand new, but then what 1998 car is, for the most part?

    I'm well aware that the Freestyle name is being replaced... I mentioned it in my previous posts here.

    I believe it's by a "Taurus X", not a Sable "X". Also, frankly, I can't stand the "cross-over" variety of vehicle, :( I have no interest in a Freestyle, or even the Edge or any other variety of "cross-over". Just doesn't do anything for me, personally.

    Anyway, my Sable wagon is now back on the road again. :shades: I do have a story about the body shop to post, perhaps when I have more time. :mad:
  • danielj6danielj6 Posts: 285
    Sent back to the factory??? I don't know of anyone in a collision where the car gets sent back to the factory...??

    Please read my entire post, don't take things out of contest and ridicule them. My statement about sending the car back to the factory was for illustrative purposes only, and the operative word is UNLESS. Cars don't get to go back, but to repair it after a severe collision may take the precision skill that only computerized robots have.
  • Ummm, 'scuse me, but I didn't take anything out of context nor out of contest (sic) nor did I ridicule them. I'm sorry if that's what you thought I was doing.

    I stand by my statement, that I don't know of anyone after an accident who has a car "sent back to the factory". Your statement left the impression that it could be done. I'm not aware of it ever being done. If you know differently, I'd love to hear about it. :confuse:

    However I'm not interested in arguing with you, I just can't imagine anyone sending a car back to the factory (as you seemed to indicate).

    Obviously car repair is a precision skill. But again, I don't know of any repair work that ever takes place by sending something back to the factory in the automotive repair industry.

    If what you meant was, that after a collision repair, a car may not match the original specifications that occur at the point of manufacturing or factory, then I would agree with you. The minute you drive a car off the lot, the "factory-set" specifications are likely to change in the real world as a car ages, accrues miles, repairs take place, parts get swapped out and fixed etc., much less the vehicle itself is involved in real-world dings and dents... :sick:

    I also did read your entire post. I guess you didn't read any of the earlier posts where we discussed the change-over of the "Freestyle" to the TAURUS "X" name plate, not the Sable as you had indicated.

    As I also indicated, the airbags didn't deploy on my dinger, which indicated to me it was not that SEVERE a front-end collision.

    Thanks for explaining what you meant by your posting.
  • My '99 sable wagon with duratec ohc 3.0 is making a whining noise at start up and regularly during driving. Like power steering but not as loud and definitely interior based. Thought it was transmission because it sort of follows acceleration but a light bulb in my brain lit - I had a '93 that did a similar thing and it turned out to be the oil pump and was fixed by replacing it. Anyone have input - sure would help to be confident of problem before I conquer the wrong beast. Thanks in advance!
  • Hi,
    I have a 2005 Taurus wagon that sometimes won't start. It too appears the theft system is "confused"as I get no bells, lights or electrical operation at all.

    I have found if I re engage the gear selector from park to neutral and back to park, it will start, antone else found this fix?
    John
  • I have a 1999 Ford Taurus Wagon. To avoid a wreck I put the car into reverse from drive and accelerated hard. The tires squeaked and all of the sudden the car made a grinding noise. When I put it up it into any other gear it made the same noise. I can only put it in park or neutral. When I jacked it up onto stands and put it in drive it makes the grinding noise only when my foot is on the brake. When I release the brake the wheels spin. I was thinking the problem could be a broken halfshaft either on the left or right side, but I am not sure. If you are experienced and have any knowledge on this please post back.
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