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Kia Forte vs Toyota Corolla vs Hyundai Elantra vs Mazda3

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  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    would say below 30 mpg all around and probably closer to about 25 which is what the mpg city estimates say on the window sticker.

    Ah, those window stickers! Their numbers are either optimistic or hallucinatory ...
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    The "New" EPA window stickers are pessimistic in my eyes. I've NEVER gotten highway mileage as bad as those stickers indicate I should be getting, and I don't drive 55 everywhere, and I also like to hear the VTEC snarl at 6000 RPM! :shades: The old EPA numbers are a pretty good indication of what mileage I can expect.
  • steven39steven39 Posts: 636
    just a few words about my kia forte's interior road noise.before i decided on the forte EX sedan i also test drove a 2010 mazda 3 and a 2010 honda civic sedan lx among a few other cars.i actually came close to purchasing the mazda 3 but it had to much horrific road noise for my likeing as did the civic sedan.the forte's quiet interior was the deciding factor among other things over the other cars i test drove.
  • mnfmnf Posts: 404
    Is there a differance from the Sedan or Coupe auto or manual in road noise. Reading Consumer Reports they said.

    HighsFuel economy, secure handling, rear-seat space, controls. LowsRide, engine noise, fit and finish, driving position.

    "The engine gets quite loud under acceleration."

    From what i have seen they do look sharp KIA has came a long way in a few short years.

    MNF
  • chronochrono Posts: 149
    I test drove an EX with fuel pkg a couple months back. I thought the engine noise was fine although I never hammered the car. Also the ride seemed smooth too. The difference in ride could be attributed to the different wheel packages you can get. The standard size are the 15's which seemed to absorb most any bump. I did not try the 16's or I think the SX can be had with 17's I believe which would make the ride more firm ..
  • compensatecompensate Posts: 212
    The Kia Forte is on my short list for my next car. I currently drive a 2001 Hyundai Elantra GT 5-speed (a REAL hatchback) with almost 225,000 miles on it. Still has all original pumps (oil, fuel and water), rear struts, alternator, clutch, transmission, etc. The air conditioning is still ice cold and has never been serviced in 9 years of ownership. This has been the most reliable car I have ever owned, even made more amazing by the fact that I am a spirited driver and tend to "push" my cars a bit.

    I was going to get another Elantra, but that new hatchback model (Elantra Touring) looks like a station wagon - they should not even call it a hatchback anyomore. If it looked more like a hatchback, I would not hesitate to buy it, but the Forte looks much better.

    Anyone have any input into the long-term reliability of the Kia Forte, or Kia in general these days? Can they compete with Hyundai in long-term reliability of 7+ years and high mileage?

    Thanks!
  • jimpimmsjimpimms Pittsfield MAPosts: 81
    Kia's pretty much using the newest Hyundai drivetrains now, so the reliability should be comparable, although they're assembled in separate plants. Curiously, the Forte has a more advanced 2.0L all-aluminum engine (156 bhp / 154 bhp PZEV) than the Elantra (138 bhp / 132 bhp PZEV). I also owned a 2001 Elantra GT, and stupidly traded it in for a 2006 Sonata V-6 5AT, and I've regretted it ever since, as the GT was a blast to drive. I passed the Sonata on to my wife, and I now have a Forte EX 5MT, which is also fun to push. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with the 2011 Forte 5-door 6MT, since it has more power, an extra cog, and better gas mileage. But you may notice a difference in handling, as the Kia's rear suspension is torsion-bar rather than fully independent. I'm planning on upgrading to an SX 5-door 6MT, but not until Kia drops the new GDI 2.4L (198 bhp / 190 bhp PZEV) in it--or better yet, the new 2.0L turbo.
  • Not for nothing but the first couple of months there shouldn't be any problems with any of the above cars, BUT I would look at the Toyota and Mazda, from the above 4 cars listed in the title. I have yet to be convinced that Hyundai and Kia are just as durable in the long run as Toyota, Honda, Subaru, Suzuki, Mazda, etc...
    I really think the Kia Forte is a great looking car. I would consider it myself but I cant see it being as rock solid a a toyota or honda 5-6 years from now. I just work with too many people who drive Hyundai/Kia cars...after 2-3 years, they seem to start nickel and diming you...this is just an observation. When I start hearing people tell me thay have 175,000 miles on their elantra, and it has been great....and I see it, then I may change my tune....
  • To those concerned with the above, bear in mind that different countries have different taxing methods for cars and fuel costs range from outrageous to outright banditry. Ergo, many differing engines, diesel or gasoline, must be offered if you plan on selling worldwide. Standard transmissions are more common in other parts of the world than automatics. Durability of Kia/Hyundai engines and vehicles in general depends on proper maintenance and pride of ownership. If you wish to see an example of this, check Whatcar.co.uk and look at the Kia/Hyundai models offered. It can be an eye-opener.
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