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Nissan Armada Brake Problems

My Armada has about 65K miles on it and I bought it with about 40k 2 years ago. Last week I noticed a decrease in brake performance and squeaking from the front end. I looked at the rotors and found a deep gouge in the drivers side rotor and waves in both rotors. I started looking online for replacement brakes and came across a company who sold performance brake parts.

I tow our 30' camper with a Blue Ox weight distributing hitch and it has plenty of power and stops ok (I think the trailer brakes worked the hardest). Since the rotors need replacing I have decided to go with dimpled and slotted rotors with premiume pads on the front and regular pads on the rear.

Has anyone converted to drilled and slotted rotors or installed a trany cooler on this vehicle to assist with towing?
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  • I wrote a few weeks ago about the latest brake fix for the Armada. I had stated the the rep met with us and said that the engineers finally found the problem which was related to the electrical system that was sending wrong signals to the brakes. I have to report that the fix has worked so far and the SUV drives totally different than before. If any of you are still having brake problems, make sure you take your Armada in and tell them you want the latest electrical fix. Hopefully this will be the end of this problem. If it would crop up again....I will write.
  • I concur with shopinful's recommendation.

    I too had this problem 72hrs after purchasing an 04 SE Off-Road Armada with 20k miles.

    The braking system ceased to work while traveling on a heavily populated street, luckily there was a turning lane that gave me adequate room to stop before reaching the intersection. Symptoms: Brake peddle fell to the floorboard, grinding was felt and heard, dash brake light came on. It felt like the brake pads fell off the calipers and the calipers and rotors were rubbing against each other to stop the truck, which didn't happen. I had roughly 20% braking power, compared to normal, when this occurred. I came to a stop on a side road, read the owners manual concerning the dash brake light. The manual advised me to check the break fluid, and if full, take to a NISSAN dealership. Therefore, I brought it to a NISSAN dealership immediately. Within 10mins a mechanic noticed the upgraded braking system was already added to the truck before I purchased the vehicle. Therefore, their approach to fix the problem was reprogram the VDC control unit.

    Here's the info from my work order receipt:

    Reprogrammed VDC Control Unit
    (Reprogrammed VDC As Per Bulletin NTB06-040)
    Fail Code: 32


    Nissan Bulletin NTB06-040

    It's been over 2 weeks now and the brakes are working normally. Hopefully, this is the real brake fix! I will keep everyone posted if something changes.
  • Brad,
    It has been quite a few months now and the brakes are working great. It took Nissan quite a while to find the problem but I think they finally solved it. Glad it worked for you too. :)
  • Just a report.....the brake fix is still working. My husband tested it to the max this last weekend on the interstate. Drove much faster than he should of and had a few quick stops.....brakes worked like a charm since the last fix. To the person asking about current model....I do believe that Nissan FINALLY has fixed this problem once and for all. Thank heavens!! Now that our SUV is fixed I am really enjoying it. :shades:
  • wai1480wai1480 Posts: 7
    i am just wondering have you guys find out if the brake issue still exists?
  • shopinfulshopinful Posts: 47
    Brakes still working perfect!! I guess the last fix with the computer system worked. It took a long time but am so glad this is behind us. ;)
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Mine is working well towin 10k lbs on a regular basis.

    -mike
  • rshershe Posts: 236
    I just had the ABS reprogram done last month after they failed. The strange thing is mine is a 2004 and this is the first time this ever happened. 3 years and 45,000 miles and it happens now?? Seems like something involving a computer program issue would have happened sooner.. Who knows?! Glad I got the extended warranty. But I must admit all is going well after the update, knock, knock, knock on wood.
  • wai1480wai1480 Posts: 7
    Based on the replies I assume they fix the original problem. How much will it cost if without the warranty? If it can last another 45k it will very reasonable. If the armada has the brake issue so what about the qx56?
  • aggiedogaggiedog Posts: 238
    I just had my front and rear brakes replaced (05), new front rotors and rear rotors resurfaced, all for free (55K miles) and they gave me a free rental too. Mine didn't appear to be a problem, they just squeaked. I had them check it while in for an oil change and what-da-ya know, they're worn out almost completely. I think my last brake visit was around 34K miles.
  • :lemon: I own a 2005 armada I purchased a year ago with 16000 miles. It was in for brakes a total of 5x which included the replacement of both front calipers at different times as well as the rotors being replaced twice. I contacted a lemon law attorney. Nissan has agreed to buy the piece of crap back, but they are dragging the process out. Before I have to sign papers that I can not speak out about the brake problem once Nissan settles. Let me advise every one with constant brake problems to seek legal advice. Nissan knows the brakes are undersized for the Armada and has beefed up the 2008 model. Nissan is trying not to have a national recall.
  • Sorry to hear about your problem. Did they do the electrical computer fix already with your vehicle? Ours is still working great. Amazing the difference. Wish you luck with the new vehicle. :)
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    No offense but they have already had a recall on them which covers the rotors and caliper brackets and pads. Perhaps your dealer couldn't figure out how to fix it...

    -mike

    PS: I tow 10,000lb trailers on a regular basis and after they fixed the brakes it's been 100%
  • HI I also own a 2004 armada . an em having a lot of brake problems . took it to dealer ship . They were not helpful an acted like I was crazy . any how were do I find the recall info at so I can get this fixed ..
  • Hi, If you go to the official Nissan website. You can look up the tech bulletins for the brake system of your year armada about the replacement of thicker front rotors and brake components. Some people are under the impression that their was a recall but Nissan has not officially called it a recall. Nissan has only issued Service Tech Bulletins which cover the brake problem. Nissan figures that the less people who know or complain will save Nissan on the cost of the parts and labor. If you cant find the bulletins let me know I will get you the exact numbers. Its typical for the dealership to try and push you away. Also you might want to file a complaint with the NTSB. Good Luck
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,065
    The TSB you are looking for is NTB00-033d. You can go to this site and by registering (free) you can download 1 file per day.

    http://www.nissanhelp.com/
  • I also have a 2004 Armada and I experienced the ABS/Brake/VDC light coming on. Took it to the dealer and they could not find anything wrong. They reset the computer and added fluid to the master cylinder. This happened after having the vehicle for 9 months. I experienced the brake judders and the steering wheel shaking out of your hand when braking. I took the vehicle back to the dealer complaining about same problems and also those lights were on again. I received a call and was told front and rear brakes need replacement to the tune of $1,100. I only had 25K miles on it. I declined, hoping to escalate it to try to get it done under warranty (I was told brake warranty is 12K and if you can prove judders, 36K).

    Five weeks later, while backing out of my driveway, the brake pad feel off. Obviously, I was not going back to that dealership. My neighbor who works at a local garage offered to do the brakes so I would not have to have it towed. Turns out, the rotors were so warped and the pads so low, the pad slipped right off. In addition, the caliper on the side that the brake feel off of, was leaking profusely. So I had to replace pads, 1 caliper, and the rotors.

    I was so angry, I contacted Nissan. They asked for copies off all receipts saying I had a good case to be reimbursed, After about a month, they called denying the claim based on the notes from the dealership. The dealership claims the brakes were just worn out. I don't believe normal wear and tear to the point of the pad falling off at 25K so I escalated the decision to a supervisor. I contacted the repair shop who did the brakes to let them know what was going on and they told me that they still had the rotors there. I contacted Nissan and they told me to take them to another dealership to be evaluated. I did that and the second dealership said that yes, indeed, the rotors were severely warped, contradicting the first dealership's notes.

    I was told they were taking this new information to the regional parts manager for a decision. I also had to fax them my work order from getting the new brakes done. I was informed yesterday that I was being turned down to be reimbursed because they replaced the brake pads. Their theory is that the pads were so worn due to my neglect, they warped the rotors.

    Where do I go now??????I will get an attorney as a last resort. I want this rectified ASAP. My lease is up in February. Any suggestions as to whom I can contact now? Thanks!
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    25k is about all you will get out of the pads on the trucks. The 12k warranty is only for rotors and pads, your brakes (calipers, etc) are covered under the regular Bumper to Bumper Warranty. I am a bit confused on how many miles etc. were on the pads when you warped the rotors. If the pads do wear down and it's metal on metal then they will warp your rotors and the dealer isn't responsible for this.

    As for the leaking caliper that should be covered.

    The problem I see here is if you get a lawyer, how much will it cost you to get a lawyer, only to recover at most $1000?

    -mike
  • When the vehicle went into the dealership in March, it had 25K on it. I tool it because the wheel was shaking and the brakes pulsating and the VDC/SLIP/OFF/BRAKE lights were on again.

    They told me that the brakes were worn within normal range. I don't know, maybe I am being unreasonable but I don't think 25K is alot of miles. I had a Pathfinder before this and I never had to have the brakes replaced. Yes, I am aware that the Armada is a much heavier vehicle but I am also aware that they put Frontier brakes on the which is a 3000 pound heavier than the Frontier. There is so much on line about how the brakes put on especially the 2004 Armada, were undersized. As it was explained to me, the brakes are too light weight for these vehicles which causes the pads to wear quickly. All of the excessive heat due to stopping causes the judders, ie. the rotors to warp. In addition, they will not even reimburse me for the caliper which was $500.
  • One last thing.....5 week after the truck was at the dealership, the brake pad fell, off in my driveway. It was so thin, it slipped off the rotor. 5 weeks prior, the dealership called my brakes normal wear and tear.
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