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  • heatherbeanheatherbean Posts: 82
    Yes I did make the right choice for my family. My husband loves the L.L. Bean and he really wanted one. He strongly encouraged me to trade-in my car for it. I know it is much safer then my OBS was- my 20 MPH head-on last week proves that! If I was in my OBS she'd be mooshed with her shorter bumper, since the van hit me right at the top of the bumper! Luckily only the bumper needs to be replaced and the car was undamaged! This proves the Bean is one strong car! And yes, even at 20-month's my Sara loves the Bean. So far it is the only car she will fall asleep in. I think she likes the light interior and the legroom. Yes, I can still have my WRX or new OBS someday when we are sure there is no second child in our future that is. It's not just the article, EVERYONE at the i-club makes Slushbox comments to me. You guys are way more emathetic here! I guess I Club is for Impreza's anyway. I can still drive my husband's, well now my, 2001 Outback manual in the deep sapphire blue. She is really improved with the Michelin Pilot tires and the spoiler I had put on her last week! Only wish it had WRX seats. I think those seats lean back too much and are not bolstered enough on the sides. I am not comfortable in them. My only complaint really. Thanks for listening!
    Heather
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I-club is a bunch of kids who are wanna-be racers. They tried pulling that slush-box crap with me too, right up until I smacked their little wee-wees with my XT6 AUTOMATIC in auto-x versus their WRXs and RSs with MANUAL Trannies.

    Come over to the Tri-state forum and you'll see a group of i-clubbers who doesn't ditch on ATs...

    -mike

    PS: Which forum on I-club are they ditching on ATs? I'll jump in there and put em in their place.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Can anyone help out Gary? Noone ever re-aimed their headlights?

    Gary: call 800-SUBARU3, or visit the web site and e-mail them for assistance. Or maybe a dealer would show you?

    Heather: kids are fun too, have two and you'll have your own pit crew! :-)

    Some people say i Club stand for "immature club" at times. Stick with us, we'll treat you better than that.

    -juice
  • hypovhypov Posts: 3,068
    Would had liked to help, but I've got a '98 OB.
    Don't know how the '00+ MYs works. On the '98, you'll have to work with both top and bottom (pain in the b'hind) knobs. The top controls more of the up/down aim and the bottom more of the left/right aim.

    -Dave
  • bat1161bat1161 Posts: 1,784
    Heather,

    I understand how you can feel on the I-Club, however it does depend on where you are. I have an OB and participate on the Tri-State Forum occasionally. While most of them are Impreza "fanatics" I have found that our group have treated me right. It could be because Paisan keeps them in shape, but I have found them to be a fun group of people who encourage everyone to join in and have fun! Enjoy your Bean wagon, its a nice ride!

    Mark
  • rob999rob999 Posts: 233
    Eons ago on this board there was a discussion about using a conditioning fluid for keeping the rubber seals around doors and windows in good shape. I believe someone recommended a GM product.

    Call me lazy, but I don't feel like scrolling thru 5,500 posts in order to find it.

    Can anyone make a current recommendation for such a product?
  • goosegoggoosegog Posts: 206
    Rob - I pulled the artice from a web site. If I can find it again I'll post the URL, if not I could email the article to you...it's too long to post here.

    It went into more detail than most people will ever want to know. The guy pulled them apart to discover how they compared internally, and this also revealed that some were identical even though different brands. If I remember correctly he used them in both standard and tweaked engines but didn't have the ability to analyse the oil afterwards, so it is a theoretical comparison based on construction.
  • heatherbeanheatherbean Posts: 82
    I only post in the Legacy forum there and have heard Slushbox on a number of occasions plus they think the Outback is dirt compared to the GT. I wrote to Subaru and the only difference is the GT has stiffer springs and slightly lower profile tires. Other then the Outback being on 1 inch blocks- they are identical! They say trying to mod my Outback's for performance is like trying to turn a Suburban into a Ferreri! You are right, I should stay out of there! They are not helping me feel better about my cars at all.
    Heather
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Outback actually get more features, like seat back map pockets and cross bars for the roof rack. There are lots of little things the other Legacys don't come with. Not to mention a certain boxer 6.

    -juice
  • hammersleyhammersley Posts: 684
    Rob: I keep it simple - spray some silicone spray (same thing we use on the CV boots) on to a cloth, then wipe the rubber seals. I try to do it a coulde times a year, but always & at least before winter - seems to keep the doors from freezing shut quite so much.

    Cheers!
    Paul
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Sure does. Nice tip.

    -juice
  • cynthiagcynthiag Posts: 63
    I'm sorry you are missing your old car, but safety is important, especially when you have children. Me, I've always driven an automatic, so I don't miss what I never had. As it turns out, even if I wanted to learn, it would be a bad idea because the last thing my arms would need would be to shift all the time. Not to mention my knees and ankles, which aren't too good either.

    Anyway, I think if I were you, for the time being, I'd stay away from the boards that are bashing your new car. I'm getting a lot of head turns with my Outback, and I just have the base model! It handles differently from my old Camry, and I miss the feel of the old car a bit, but I love the ride in the Outback. Speed bumps, railroad tracks, ruts and holes in the road are nothing to this car! Mostly, right now I miss the Camry's seats... the Subaru seat and I are still getting used to each other. Or maybe my back is sore for another reason.

    Anyway, I think I'd concentrate on getting a feel for the new car. When you miss your old car, think of how much safer you and your family are in the new one. I think of my car as my little tankette... TOUGH! STURDY! VERSATILE!

    Cynthia
  • rob999rob999 Posts: 233
    Paul - thanks for the tip, I'll give it a try.

    Rob
  • hurler4hurler4 Posts: 104
    Does anyone have the previous link to 2003 Legacy photos from the NYC auto show? I remember seeing it awhile ago. Thanks!
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    There are links to the NY auto-show there.

    -mike
  • donbensondonbenson Posts: 5
    I am looking for a recommendation for replacement tires for my 2001 4 cyclinder Outback Wagon. Thanks for any advice offered.
  • jeijei Posts: 143
    I put Dunlop SP Sport A2s on my '99 Forester "S" in March. They are terrific 3 season tires and are also OK in snow and slush. In winter I run snow & ice tires; Cooper Weathermaster XGTs, 215/70/15 on steel "L" takeoff rims. A couple of weeks back others discussed Nokians NRWs(?), as well as BF Goodrich Control TAs & Michelin Symmetrys in the 205/70/15 size. Outback wheel & tire sizes should be similar. You might also check the last few weeks on the Forester board and the Aftermarket & Accessorie "Tires Tires Tires" board.

    John
  • heatherbeanheatherbean Posts: 82
    Hey- I just put on Michelin Pilot XGT-A4's on BOTH my Outbakcs last week, What a difference! Go to www.tires.com they are availble with FREE shipping, or if you live rear CA at American Tires. I love them! Good for All-Weather traction plus a much better road feel and ride! Amazing what a tire can do! They were only $113 each plus free installation. AMAZING!
    Heather
  • peterson10peterson10 Posts: 116
    I can't bear to see you suffer any longer. I'll swap you my 2000 OB 5 speed for your Bean. Its a big sacrifice, but such is my altruistic nature.

    YetAnotherDave
    P.S. I'll throw in the cargo net, too.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    How unselfish of you!

    -juice

    PS How did the talk with the hubby go, Heather?
  • 20llbean20llbean Posts: 83
    I been away from the site for sometime so it's catch-up with everyone. Heather, I am sorry to see that you have some regrets concerning the LLBean. I have owned my Bean (timberline green) for almost a year now with 14K miles on it. I don't regret ever purchasing the car and believe me my car search took about 7 months of active search to go from SUV or wagon, Passat or Volvo or Outback finally to the Outback. It wasn't a financial decision on the Bean, I can afford any of three mentioned even loaded, but it can down to a total package that sided with the Bean. The total package being the reliability of the car, the price, the extra value in the luxury package, the dealership, on an on. My only problem resides with the tires, I have had the car to the dealer three times since I brought to rebalance the tires as they create too much highway speed shimmy in the steering wheel. My wife gets the car during the week and I have it on the weekend to haul my kids to their various weekend activities including lacrosse and hockey and all the gear that goes with the two sports, especially hockey. It is not a quick accelerating car but I DID NOT BUY for being a quick car, my V6 Accord provides that for me. It is our family car meant for long trips and hauling gear and being comfortably along the way. And at 3700+ lbs, it wasn't meant to a rocket from zero. I have had the car upto 105 MPH and it rides exceptionally well. It is not a granny mobile, maybe the I-club thinks it is but there is no way that the I-car can hold my hockey gear and son's gear that we need to carry around. That's not even mentioning the golf clubs. At this period of your life (with all the responsibilities you have) you have made a wise choice. I plan to keep this car for at least 10 years, trends don't really impact me. Good luck!
  • nygregnygreg Posts: 1,936
    Heather - I agree with Rich. I find my OB, auto fun to drive, however, I do wish it was a 5 spd. Even so, I would not trade it. As for i-club, a bunch of 20 year olds have no idea what they are talking about - they are still trying to figure out who they are.

    Rich - you play hockey? Me too! Got our butt kicked Saturday night (lost some players to golf for the spring). Anyway, I find my hockey bag fits perfectly in the back and with a low entry level it helps with a tired back after the game, late at night.

    Greg
  • 20llbean20llbean Posts: 83
    Yeah, I try to play! Actually I started to play Inline hockey more as their is a proliferation of inline rinks that are enclosed (not exposed to the elements) and the skating times are much more conducive to my daily life. I play in the 'old dogs' league (bunch of guys over 35) but still go out for the open ice hockey games a couple of times a month with the young bucks. Also, I coach 10 to 14 year old's on the weekend. I played ice last saturday and got hit in the back of the leg, still hurts. I will tell you that the seat warmers on LLbean are fantastic after a night of skating. Just what is needed to keep the lower back loose.
  • nygregnygreg Posts: 1,936
    Love those heated seats. Especially after my seat sees a lot of ice. ;)

    Greg
  • heatherbeanheatherbean Posts: 82
    Well I talked to hubby. He got very upset to say the least. We've been through too many cars and too much $$$ lost over the last 7 years.

    Anyway, once he calmed down- 2 days later- We drove my 2002 OBS on Mother's Day. I loved it and so did he! I did not expect him to love it. He said, "It is butt ugly, but it has a lot more road feel and a fun factor that the Outbacks could never have." He will let me trade-in his 2001 Outback for it. It will be the same payments except 6 months longer. We'd loose the extra trunk space, the better brakes, the limited slip differential. But I'd feel happier and gain the fun factor back. I am an Impreza person through and through. We'd still have the Bean for long road trips in luxury and style. I was regretting the $$$ more then anything. The Bean added $20,000 and 4 years to my OBS loan! But I do LOVE it! Only hope she does not bankrupt us in the process. I don't work and hubby is in construction- a very volitile profession to say the least! Also, the tire place www.tires.com said I could take back my old tires and exchange the new ones for new OBS tires for FREE! That is so nice of them- please shop there! So it's up to me, but it would cost more then the 2001 Outback and it does not depreciate as well either. This would be my 4th Impreza! The Bean is our 4th Legacy. Needless to say we've been through a lot of cars over the last several years! We had reasons for them all, but this one is purely emotional on my part. The 2001 Outback is perfect (except for sqeaky brakes and a speaker is out)and has only 5,900 miles on it!
    My birthday is next week. We will see how it turns out. Either hubby will mellow out and let me do it, or say NO MORE CARS for good! He'd have to give up his Outback that is manual and drive the Bean. He prefers manuals more then I do too, so it would be a big sacrafice on his part. I will let him drive my OBS though once in a while! She's a keeper if I get this one and so is Green bean!

    Thanks for your concern and replies during this confusing time!!
    Heather
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    It's your call, but what price can you put on happiness?

    He likes manuals too, so my unsolicited opinion is that he shouldn't have pushed you into an automatic. Letting him drive that car just seems appropriate.

    As far as the looks go, who cares, it'll be yours anyway. I find them endearing, spunky. They stand out from the crowd.

    Good luck.

    -juice
  • nygregnygreg Posts: 1,936
    Somewhat good news. You should be happy with what you drive. Your saga reads like a soap opera though - "The Impreza and it's Legacy" starring Heather Outback and Hubby Green Bean. :-)
    Personally I like the way the OBS looks and after studying the RS vs. WRX vs. OBS and what you get in each, I can easily see why someone would choose the OBS (although I can see why anyone would choose any Subaru).

    Really nice of Tires.com to do that for you. I will have to keep that in mind. We are ripping through tires this year and maybe my OB will get a new set for next winter. Then it is guaranteed not to snow.

    Greg
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    LOL Greg!

    -juice
  • viktoria_rviktoria_r Posts: 103
    I envy you! I wish I could have LL Bean! Seriously, since you have an infant, so I think it's always better to have at least one hand free (as you do with automatic!) IMHO automatics are a lot more user-friendly for everyday driving.

    Feeling better already? :)))
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