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Subaru Legacy/Outback



  • dzndzn Posts: 11
    Does anyone remember where on this message board is the posting (with picture references) for adjusting windows. I am attempting to reduce the wind noise and remember seeing that post some time back.
  • Hi folks,
    Our Bean is just about 6-months old and just turned over 13,000 miles. My wife called the dealer because the CEL was on (not gas cap related). She also complained of a bad smell when she drives the car like burning oil or something. Dealer says there were loose coolant hose clamps (causing the smell) and they have to take the computer and send it back to Subaru for re-programming(!?!?!?) The Bean will be laid-up for 3-days to a week. This may explain the poor fuel economy of this car(?) So far we have not been able to achieve the numbers that are talked about on this list. She gets average of 19 to 20mpg (mostly freeway driving, 35 mile one-way open freeway trip to work). Last fall we were able to get close to 25mpg on a long road trip (Mpls. to KC). Still, not quite the numbers I would expect. I'll post once the Bean is back from the dealer with re-programming.

    Paul in MN.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Let us know how the "fix" goes. A new/reprogrammed ECU ought to help fuel economy, but the engine's still a bit green so it would have improved anyway.

  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    from a 6 cylinder heavy car is pretty darn good IMHO. The ecu re-program should help but maybe 1-2mpg max.

  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    That was me.

    The pictures are from the rear door on the driver's side, but I imagine it would apply to the other doors. Let me know if you have any questions. There are basic adjustments for side to side position, and "stops" that control the vertical limits for up and down. If you took pictures of your glass, I could compare it to my car and see if it is off and by how much.


  • kmcleankmclean Posts: 173
    Brian -

    The fog lamp shields are removed by rotating counter-clockwise (the previous 30 degree estimate is good) - reverse the procedure to reinstall. Note the "TOP" embossed on the uppermost "crossbar." My hunch is that they're easy to break, so take it easy (perhaps not a good idea to do in sub-zero WX).

    I've been driving since 1964, and have received one ticket (in 1968, for doing 65 in a 55 - Route 309 in PA - by a very polite state trooper who was attracted to my flaming red/orange Fiat 124 Sport Coupe for some reason(?!)). Multiple cross-country treks as I moved around in the Air Force - I'd guess I've driven around 1.5 million miles by tallying up cars and mileage. Always noted on long trips that the same car(s) would go flying by a couple of times in the same day - unsure if speed-induced higher fuel consumption or smaller bladder kept making them stop. Generally speaking, speeding didn't seem to make much sense on any level (although I fully agree with the "minnow" theory - especially in urban areas like Seattle).

    Funniest ticket I heard of (related by my mom) - in the 60s, she and my dad were headed downtown Philly for dinner and apparently he was regaling her with some story. A cop who'd been following them for some time (in normal city traffic) finally pulled them over and threatened to give my dad a ticket for talking too much - and not paying enough attention to driving. Long before cell phones!

    Ken in Seattle (sunshine, finally)
  • goosegoggoosegog Posts: 206
    Fog light grilles; grip them at the edges and twist anti-clockwise to remove; they dont turn far. There is a top and bottom (marked on the grille) and they are flimsy. There are 4 little clips moulded into them but it is difficult to see exactly what they clip onto, there seem to be 4 white tabs in the right places around the lamp and mine are all there, but the grille is still loose on one side as if one of the clips/tabs isnt connecting.

    As for Reliants (Mr Beans car) they had a fiberglass body and about a 850 cc engine I think. Quite a good power/weight ratio, but definitely a laughing stock. It is surprisingly difficult to roll a 3-wheeler; the body is always very light and the engine is usually between the two driven wheels; as the car tips it goes towards the single wheel, and the weight of the engine is away from the direction of tip (if you see what I mean). So it is sort of self-righting. To a degree.

    When I was in college in England in the 60s my friend had an AC. Most people here probably only know the Cobra, but AC made all kinds of junk. This thing was a tiny two seat 3-wheeler with a single cylinder, two stroke, 500cc motorbike engine in the back, driving the two rear wheels with a rubber band arrangement on a tapered cylinder (a la DAF and Subaru Justy I think), meaning no gears, the engine rpm was more or less constant. He was a big fellow and drove it like a madman trailing blue smoke and with his elbow stuck out the fold-up window; it would roll so much the aluminum body would scrape along the ground. In the wet the belt would slip on the cylinder; it would lose traction and start to slow down, but then the friction of the slipping belt would dry it and it would grip again, so wed go along in a series of surges with the engine banging away like the clappers the whole time.

    I also had a friend who collected pre-war cars. At one time he had a giant Auburn(sp?) about 30 ft long. But the one I remember best was the Citroen light 15, as mentioned by Bob. I went with him to pick one up. We traveled in an identical car, and were to tow the new acquisition back as it was not running or licenced. So I sat in the towed Citroen while he drove the other one from Southend back to London, about 50 miles. The towing device was a rope and the technique for the towee is to keep your foot hovering over the brake pedal in order to keep the rope taught, avoiding sudden lurches which could break it, and to avoid rear-ending the towing vehicle, which of course is supposed to brake gently. So about halfway back he seemed to forget I was 5 ft behind him (no mirror). The Light 15 was front wheel drive and handled very nicely. But not when it being towed. He kept increasing speed and zipping around roundabouts and curves while I desperately tried to keep mine on the road. I had no means of attracting his attention (no battery therefore no horn). Eventually the rope broke and I went sailing off onto the grass at a roundabout.

    Cars are so boring now.

    Can somone tell me how to post a picture right into the post rather than a link?
  • bkaiser1bkaiser1 Posts: 464
    Thanks, all, for the help with the foglight grills...I'll pull them off tonite. I appreciate the input!
  • sibbaldsibbald Posts: 106
    Those were good hints you listed except for the PBA card of a police officer. IMHO you had better have some picture I.D. (sometimes called an universal drivers licence) that will match that card. Name droppers are in the same category at people with radar detectors.

    Oh, how many times the speeding tolerance was dropped when a radar detector was observed in a passing car. ;-)

    Things police offices wish they could say:

    "The answer to this question will determine whether you are drunk or not. Was Mickey Mouse a cat or dog?"

    "So, you don't know how fast you were going. I guess that means I can write anything I want on the ticket, huh?"

    "Yes sir, you can talk to the shift supervisor, but I don't think it will help. Oh, did I mention that I am the shift supervisor?"

    "Warning! You want a warning? O.K., I'm warning you not to do that again or I'll give you another ticket."

    "Life's tough, it's tougher if you're stupid."

    "No sir, we don't have quotas anymore. We used to have quotas, but now we're allowed to write as many tickets as we want."


  • Didn't you pull me over once a few years back, sibbald? Do you remember a short bearded guy who insisted Mickey Mouse was a bat? :-)
  • armac13armac13 Posts: 1,129
  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    Took mine off tonight. Kind of like the look. I will leave them off a few days and decide.

  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Mine has my uncle's shield # on it :)

  • hypovhypov Posts: 3,068
    How does one get into the FOP?

  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    It's a waste of money to join the FOP just for the card, cause it doesn't do you much good w/o knowing/being an actual officer. FOP is basically a police officer's group, not sure what it does but I think basically promotes police, and what not to the general public, and provides support groups for family members?

  • 99gs99gs Posts: 109
    What year did the Limited Slip Dif first appear on a Subaru and which model? Jack
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Craig: are the fogs just exposed? Are you gonna cover them with any of that plastic coating stuff?

    Also, did you notice if the lights are any brighter without the grilles blocking them?

  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Well I know they had LSDs available on the XTs so that is back as far as 85 or 86. Probably even before that too.

  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    Yeah, the fogs are exposed. But I don't think the grilles would have provided a whole lot of protection anyway, at least against common road hazards. Maybe if you were driving through the jungle. Then again, the grilles are attached to the fogs, so a good swipe would likely damage the fogs anyway.

    I was thinking about getting some of the protective film, but it's really expensive. I will check into it though.

    I do think the light projection on the ground was a little more uniform/brighter, but it may be in my head. The way the light spreads out from those beams, the grilles should have very little effect. I can always do an un-scientific test, however . . . .

  • 99gs99gs Posts: 109
    I'm looking at used Outbacks and Legacy's from '96 through '99. Just wondering if any of those had LSD. Thanks. Jack
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