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  • Looking to buy 2009 MB SL550 from private party in SoCal. 37K miles, grey on black, P1 package, clean carfax. What would be the range in the block and what would be the trade in?

    Thanks in advance!
  • What is a good price for a 2010-2012 CPO Toyota 4Runner Limited edition with or w/o navi w/ less than 20K miles? I am in the market for one and realize that 2014 models are coming out soon with changes. I am hoping that this will drive the price down for this model range. Thanks.
  • jaser_bjaser_b Posts: 6
    edited September 2013
    Location: SLC, UT
    Year/Make/Model: 2004 Mazda MPV LX
    Body Style: Minivan
    Engine: 3.0L V6
    Driveline: FWD
    Mileage: 114,000
    Color: Silver / Gray
    Major Options: LX+ package (tint, fogs, body effects) 4-seasons package (towing, some other stuff), rear spoiler (zoom zoom!). After market in-dash touchscreen JVC double-DIN DVD player with rear camera and 9" overhead monitor to zombify the munchkins on long trips. Class II hitch with 4-pin wiring for towing a little utility trailer.
    Condition:
    Bought new, never any paint work. Typical 9 year old minivan interior funk but should clean up OK with a good detail - no ripped upholstery / carpet or haz-mat looking stains. Exterior has small parking lot dings and a couple of rock chips but no serious dents in the sheet metal. There is a crack maybe 4-5" long in the rear bumper cover below the right rear tail light where my wife backed into an idiot neighbor kid who parked behind our driveway in the dark. Probably could be repaired, we just didn't bother.
    Tires - 50% on all-seasons, extra set of snows on steel wheels with maybe 2-3 more winters in them.
    Brakes - Front and rear done in last 20k miles
    Maintenance - Lots, but mostly done myself so no dealer records. Battery, belts, coils, plugs, trans / radiator flush, radiator hoses, cooling fan controller, valve cover gaskets, intake boot done in last 15k miles.
    Other: No prior damage/insurance claims, repaints, etc.

    Looking for a trade-in type number to help set a price for a family member who we're planning to pass it along to. It's been a great little van, and currently has no known mechanical needs.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,223
    miles like that will be rare. For a 2012 4wd V6 limited, expect to pay maybe $36k-$37k.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,223
    quite the spread on these. Here are you comparables:

    08/28/13 NASHVILL Lease $47,000 33,643 Avg BLK
    08/16/13 PA Lease $42,000 37,865 Avg RED
    08/29/13 PALM BCH Regular $42,600 44,514 Avg BLACK

    Roadster in SoCal is going to be pretty strong. The one in Palm Beach probably didn't do so well thanks to the black exterior and slightly higher miles. The one in PA is the wrong climate and wrong color. Nashville had good miles and not too far south for a black car. Yours is grety with in between miles, so I'd guesstimate it would do 45-46k at the block. BUT, dealer probably wouldn't want to take that chance, so if taking it on trade to send to auction, they might not be too comfortable at over $43k, I think. This is all largely speculation, of course.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,223
    $1500-$2k

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • Thanks. If that's all I can expect on trade we'll definitely keep it in the family.
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,231
    Do yourself and your wallet a favor and look at a Pathfinder from those years. I was in your shoes back in 2009 and found the Nissan to be a better vehicle and much cheaper. There's a V8 option and the styling isn't nearly as funky (although that vintage looks quite tame compared to the goofy 2014!!).

    I just crossed 100k miles and have had less problems than any of my last Toyotas. I offroad often for business purposes as well and can't complain a bit. If I was going to buy a new vehicle today I'd pickup a low mileage Silver or LE. In fact I looked at a 2012 with only 15k miles and couldn't pull the trigger because mine still drives as good as that "new" one.
  • tauntaun Posts: 8
    edited September 2013
    What can I expect for the following:

    Location: Sacramento, CA
    Year/Make/Model: 2007 Subaru Forester XT Sport
    Body Style: 4dr Wagon
    Engine: 2.5 Turbo
    Transmission: Automatic
    Driveline: AWD
    Mileage: 62,500
    Color: Black ext/Black Interior
    Major Options: Panoramic Moonroof
    Condition: Minor wear, excellent mechanical condition. All services done for all the intervals. Tires have 65% or more tread left. Brake pads replaced at 42k miles.
    Other: No prior damage or insurance claims. I am the original and only owner.

    I dread having to deal with Craiglist tire kickers and flakes, so if I can get a decent price for a trade-in, I would probably go that route vs. private sale. Thanks.
  • Wow okay. I have been digging around on autotrader and found a few around low $30s in the northeast. I am curious as to why they still say so expensive, esp. since the new generations are coming out soon...
  • Hi sebring - thanks a lot for your input.

    I am not sure whether the 4runner is the best choice. I am looking to buy/finance a SUV for long term use. I would prefer it to be low on the mileage side, 4WD, under $30K and w/ leather heated seats.

    I was reading about "body on frame" SUVs and most were touting that these types of vehicles last longer. So, I started digging around and that is how I arrived at a 4runner...The other body on frame vehicles were either too small or too expensive.

    Is this faulty thinking? What other vehicles should I consider?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,223
    well, first, they are toyotas. second, coming out soon is not the same as "out now."

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,223
    only 1 has gone through in the past month. That one had 85,500 and got $11,900. Prior to that was one in June with 87,800 for $12,500.

    Its not much to go on, but if you base it just on that, you could figure maybe $13k at the block and $12k trade-in.

    BUT, there was one in May with 95k that only got $7k. Go figure.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,231
    For the last few years, the Pathfinder and 4Runner have been the only full frame SUV's still available. For 2013 Nissan changed the Pathfinder to a car-based crossover and it's not even in the same galaxy as the previous version. There are bigger options (Tahoe, Sequoia, etc) but I'm not aware of any that are smaller. 4Runner and Pathfinder are very similar in size and performance although I found the Pathfinder to have more comfortable/upright drivers seat and a better interior/layout.

    I'm of the same camp that a full frame SUV is a better vehicle for long-term use, particularly if you're going to off-road or tow which I do. I would probably prefer to drive a bigger vehicle (had Tahoes/Suburbans in the past) but the handling, passing power, and fuel economy of this size vehicle is ideal for me.

    You can certainly get into a low mileage Pathfinder for well within your budget. I worked a deal on a 2012 Silver Edition 4x4 Pathfinder with 15k miles from a private party for $26k. It had heated leather and most every option I need. It was a very good deal but I just decided to keep mine because mine is in terrific shape and I just can't justify spending the money. I had gbrozen get me a trade for the '12 (see a few posts above) I was looking to buy and it came back around $24-$25k so even a dealer should be selling the same model for $27k-$28k.
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,231
    Based on the looks of the 2014 you might see an increase in values for the prior version. That might sound like a joke but I can tell you if I HAD to buy a 4Runner I would grab a used one or a new '13. The '14 looks hideous.
  • tauntaun Posts: 8
    Thank you for the input. I'm hoping because I have lower mileage than the examples you cited I can hopefully at least get $11k.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,468
    Hey qbrozen - when you ran that info on my parents' 2011 V6 Cayenne, did you put in the fact that it has 56,000 + miles? Just curious as we're almost ready to pull the trigger on something and got a trade offer of 37K from the Porsche dealer.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • jipsterjipster Posts: 5,345
    We got $5,500 trade-in for our 2004 MPV LX in June of 2012. Roughly same mileage as what you have now. Very good condition. Minus the 4 season package and DVD. That was top dollar, I believe, at the time.

    I think you should be able to get between $3,000 and $3,500 trade in.
  • Hi,
    I have a C230 Sport 2007 Mercedes with the AMG style pkg (wheels, rear spoiler, amg muffler, etc).
    Miles 76,000 apprx.
    Just had a bunch of work done under extended warranty, Air Mass Sensor, Transmission bell housing replaced (slight leak), new Fuel pump. Front brakes 7mm, rear 3mm.
    Tires, about 10K on them, lots of tread.
    Outside, very good shape, no damage or rust. Interior detailed with steam cleaning of carpets and engine. Fresh oil change, new air filters, cabin filter. Had a small accident once, $1K bumper damage but its been repaired under insurance claim.
    MB dealer offered me $8K! Carmax had same one for sale @ $17,999, but I just did a KBB.com estimate, and it said $12,200? So I'm confused what i can get in a private sale?
    Thank you for your help :)
    Steve
  • Trying to determine what a dealer may have invested in a trade-in for a 2012 Kia Sorento EX.

    Norfolk, VA
    2012 Kia Sorento EX
    SUV
    3.5 6-cyl.
    FWD
    14,500 miles
    Olive Green
    Dual sunroof, leather, heated seats, infinity audio, running boards, 3rd row seating
    Great condition

    Thanks.
  • I browsed around for a Pathfinders and the prices are definitely lower than the 4runners. Would you say that for longevity, reliability, and gas mileage they are both about the same?

    I found a CPO 2011 Nissan Pathfinder 4WD 4dr V6 LE with 16K miles at a NYC dealership for $27950. If I was to go the Pathfinder route for LE from the years 2009 to 2012, what should I expect in terms of pricing for miles less than 20K?

    What other trucks should I be considering besides these two?
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,231
    Reliability is pretty tough to nail down...I'm sure some will swear by anything Toyota. I've owned a bunch of them over the years and the last few were not impressive. We tossed a 2011 Sienna after 18 months due to constant problems. I've had good luck with my Pathfinder....the later ones are quite mature in the life cycle and seem to have the bugs worked out. Some of the '05-'07 models had persistent problems that have not impacted the later models. Gas mileage should be about the same....poor in the city.

    Other vehicles...I guess it depends on what you want. You were looking at real 4x4 trucks that are designed for off-roading and towing. Is that what you need in NYC? I would think a CRV would be more reliable than either and get far better mpg driving around town. But if you want/need a real truck there's nothing else out there that's not a full-size.

    I'd say you're in the ballpark on price. I prefer the Silver model over the LE because it doesn't have the wood-trim, 18" wheels, or the more complicated 4x4 system. I like to keep it simple and save a few bucks. But if you want NAV you pretty much have to go with an LE. Good luck...I would hate to car-shop in NYC.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,223
    That is higher miles than any others that have crossed the block. I don't remember what I said before, but this is what I'm seeing:

    09/06/13 PA Regular $45,000 27,477 Avg WHITE

    08/29/13 ALBANY Regular $44,000 28,376 Avg SLVR

    08/29/13 PALM BCH Regular $42,400 33,937 Avg PUPLE

    08/22/13 RIVRSIDE Regular $44,750 35,994 Avg GREY

    08/15/13 PALM BCH Regular $46,200 50,680 Avg ORANGE

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,223
    With those miles, they go for $9k-$11,500 at auction. So I can understand the $8k offer, although yours sounds nice and they probably could step it up if they wanted it.

    Private? Well, given the spread I stated above, folks could probably buy them retail for $12k-$14k. I guess you could ask $13k and see what happens.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,223
    only a handful to go on, but they have very consistently sold for $22k. If they took it on trade, they probably paid around $21k. Fix a few things, clean it up, and it hits the lot owing them $22k, give or take a nickel.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,468
    Thanks as always for your help! I do appreciate it! You said between $42-$44K. When the Porsche dealer came back & offered $37K for it, I balked. Before I go to the BMW dealer, I want to have a clear understanding as to what is a reasonable amount. I'd like to push for $40K, but don't want to be one of these "I know what my car is worth" buyers.

    Edmunds pegs the trade in value with the miles at $37K and change. I feel like their TMV is always on the low side.

    Hope all is well & you are enjoying the Mustang!

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,223
    Anything is possible if they want to keep it on their own lot, but I see one with 99k miles at $2400, one with 102k for $2500, and one with 109k for $2800.

    If I'm a dealer and sell high-mileage 10-yr-old minivans, and one comes to me off the street that glows in the dark, sure, I might pay $3k for it to avoid the costs, fees, and uncertainty of the auction. But that's alot of ifs.

    I like to prepare folks for the worst so they aren't offended when reality strikes.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,223
    I can't understand that, but it certainly happens. I think it might be a thing with higher-end cars. Possibly they fret about reconditioning costs. I don't know. But I've definitely heard my share of lowball offers on my european cars at trade time. Had to fight pretty hard on my 135 at the Ford dealer and settled for about $1500 under auction value.

    And, hell, I'm not the least bit afraid to tell them I know the recent Manheim numbers. I kind of become a salesman myself at that point. "You can buy my car for $xxx and turn around and make $1k by taking it right to auction."

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,468
    The thing with the offer they got from the Porsche dealer where they bought and serviced the car is just that. The dealer has all the service records (including the $4K+ they recently spent on new plugs/brakes/rotors...) & their service manager detailed the car for them (no charge) after he had the nav/radio/cd/Bluetooth computer replaced under warranty. So as with anything, the $37K is a starting point. Maybe I could try to squeeze another $2-$3K out of the BMW dealer. I'll keep you posted!

    But the big sticking point is the fact that it isn't a "low mileage cream puff."

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

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