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BMW 7-Series 2006 and earlier

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  • I don't have any of the fancy rear seat packages but I do have the power shades. They are all power (side and rear) and both the driver and each passenger can control them. The side ones cover both panels of each rear seat side window and cover them entirely. The rear does not cover entirely but is like the power rear shade from Mercedes, etc.

    On a recent trip to Palm Springs with 90+ weather, the shades do keep the interior of the car cooler while parked outside.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,046
    Well price guides are only "ballpark" numbers, and if you digest them all, you'll probably see that $40K is a good target price for a pristine low mileage car. I think $30K for a "rough" car is off the mark though. You can't recondition a 7 series with bad body and mechanicals for $10K. That won't get you through the morning's work.

    When it comes to complex luxury cars, I always tell people to read the price guide and then discard it and focus on buying the best car you can afford. You'll never regret paying top dollar for a truly flawless used 7 series....of course, don't pay asking prices!

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  • seabushseabush Posts: 68
    Well,

    I lost out on that car. However, I'm looking at another one. It's in pristine condition with 13,000 miles on it. I can't believe it! A 2001 740IL with 13,000 miles on it. The asking price is $47,000 (certified BMW). Intellichoice has the price at $44K, Edmunds & KBB $42K, $41K at Nada, $40K at Carquotes.com. The car was purchased at auction. I wish I knew how much they paid for it. :P
  • For Week Ending Aug 27
     Above Average Below Jul 2004 Mar 2004 sept
    $34,595 $29,751 $24,907 $29,822 $31,969 $34,590
    Mileage
     27,087 43,232 59,377 42,964 41,336 41,067
    Total Sold All 118 91 143 130
     
     
    Average Auction Mileage
    Prices are based on more transactions than shown under 'Transactions', above.
      Sep 02 - Sep 09 2004
      Above Average Below Oct 2004 Sep 2005
     $32,900 $29,700 $26,600 $29,100 $26,100
    Est. Retail $36,000 $32,600 $29,200 $31,900 $28,700
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    We went to sleep around here and this discussion archived itself - I'm reopening it by request and also because it needs to be open even if it does take a nap from time to time.

    :)
  • sfvicsfvic Posts: 2
    I am considering buying a 2001 740i with Sport Package, Navi, Heated Seats, PDC, all bells whistles essentially for $28,900. I'm also buying platinum package extended warranty which is good for 4 years and up to 100,000 miles.

    Are there any problems I should expect with the car. I'm buying this to help myself forget about a bad experience with a mercedes. I'm getting it for low blue book trade in value in excellent condition.

    I have until Tuesday to make a final decision. Thanks in advance.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,046
    Well my advice on these newer BMW 7 series is to first of all play with every gadget in the car, look at every gauge, light and function, and make SURE everything is working perfectly---and that all switches, lights, wipers, heaters, AC---all that works....because electronics repair is one of those areas where the costs really pile up.

    Then I'd take the VIN #, check it against CARFAX and also bring the VIN to the dealer where the car was bought or serviced. You might be able to view the warranty history.

    Last of all, I'd pay to have the car checked out stem to stern by a qualified technician.

    Yeah, that's 3-4 hours of your time but you might be paying yourself a couple hundred dollars an hour in savings.

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  • sysadbsysadb Posts: 83
    The 2001 shouldn't be too bad electrically, as it predates the 2002 i-drive model with the 17 separate computer systems. I presume you have driven the car and compared it with a non-sport model? Just asking, as I've found the sport package worsens the ride considerably, especially over rough roads. Some feel the benefits of the SP are worth it, but since you are used to a Mercedes I thought I'd bring it up...

    DB
  • Im considering a 1997 740il for 13,500 obo.
    Its right at the trade in value.
    My question and main concern is this:

    How much maintenance does a BMW require and what is the cost of proper care and maintenance?
  • Has anyone heard of BMW extending the warranty to 6yrs or 60000 miles for free. If so, why?
    Thanks
  • rowlandjrowlandj Posts: 254
    The first few years of the new model had 'gremlins' that caused lots of grief for the owners. Mostly in the software of the new vechicle. In order to compensate the owners of these 2002 and 2003 vehicles BMW extended the warranty to 6/100,000.

    JR
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,046
    BMW maintenance is quite expensive. You should plan on $150 a month overall minimum, average out between the good and bad years.

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  • Hi, how is the engine and wind noise inside the car.
    thanks
  • rowlandjrowlandj Posts: 254
    Wind noise is almost non-existent and the engine noise is pretty much the same unless you really put your foot into it. When you do that you get a very nice engine sound, but only for a short time because you'll need to back off quickly as the acceleration is amazing for a car of this size.

    JR
  • I'm in the process of negotiating for a 98 750iL that is loaded to the max with only 44,400 miles on it and in outstanding condition for only $15k (the owner is working overseas and just needs to sell his American car because he can't use it). It appears a step up (being that it's in better shape and has Electronic Stability Control) than the 97 740iL that I fishtailed and wrecked in 04-2003. Given the aforelisted data, what opinions on this car (not my driving) can anyone tell me?
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Posts: 9,359
    ......... This is one of those deals that $150 spent, could save you $15,000++ ...

                 The price is super cheap considering that most dealers would pay more than that for it ... I would check the history, then I would have the vehicle looked at *very closely* by a Bimmer mechanic and a good body man on a lift - if all is well, then buy it ..

                                  Terry.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,046
    I agree, price is good, maybe $5,000 under private party retail.

    It should be darn near perfect, however, and all electronics MUST be in good working order. These are wonderful cars but the repair bills can give you a nose-bleed. You really can't even park in front of the dealer for under $600 and even common items like brake pads and rotors will set you back a fair sum of money, 3 times a "normal" car.

    So in other words, this is NOT a car you want to restore or rebuild. It had better be tip top right from the start and you have to have the stomach for the maintenance and repair.

    The local dealer could probably give you a fee schedule for maintenance, and that might help you decide. I'm figuring $300/month average over a few years to keep this car on the road in good condition.

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  • designmandesignman Posts: 2,129
    I am wondering if anyone knows what the terms of the 7-series buybacks are/were. I know there was mention of signing a waiver not to disclose the situation, but did this include getting a FULL refund including tax and fees, or was a USAGE FEE or other fees deducted as is typical with buybacks according to lemon laws?
  • wwcwwc Posts: 1
    From my experience be carefull considering a 745's...it appears they still don't even have the diagnostics available to detect all problems..BMW appears to be in huge denial in dealing with 745 problems...BMW keeps talking about styling being the issue because that's easier to fix than the engineering..for those of us who have bought it we bought into the styling and the idrive...unfortunately we expected everything to work..and we expected BMW to stand behind their cars..unfortunately we continue to hear them blame software and number of computers..But that's part of what we purchased.they're destroying their brand image and customer retention one fell swoop because they continue to make excuses instead of dealing honestly with the customers they have disenfranchised...these problems require novel solutions to win back loyal customers..not marketing speeches that tell you how popular the 7 series is in China..
  • carlkcarlk Posts: 1
    I have a 740i BMW sedan which has a loud whining noise which appears to be coming from the two rear wheels. It starts when I drive about a mile and continues until I shut engine off. Feel no effect on engine speed or brake applying. Someone suggests it is coming from fuel pump in gas tank but doesn't affect fuel delivery. Any ideas?
  • battrlbattrl Posts: 12
    I have an '01 740i Sport and am considering a move from the Bible belt to the snow belt. What can I expect in terms of snow handling on those wide tires?

     

    I'm obviously going to need to change tires to something geared toward A/S or winter. Any recommendations?
  • bmw8bmw8 Posts: 1
    Can you please give me the details on the manner in which the factory warranty was extended? Does it extend all aspects of the warranty, or just the coverage for the software and engine? Has BMW put the details in writing somewhere? I can't find any references to this on their website, and have heard conflicting stories regarding the specifics of the extended coverage from BMW dealers and 'non-BMW' after market agents. Thanks! CC
  • mevandemevande Posts: 190
    The deal on the 740i seems pretty good. How many miles are on it? I have a 1999 740i and it had been 100% problem free. The reliability beats any Japanese or German counterpart I have owned. The guy who said average is 150.00 a month for service must have a lemon and a bad dealership!

    The 2001 is the last of the "best styled" BMW's IMO. Good luck!
  • someone can Help me? my 1994 BMW 740il the problem is the transmission when I put it in Drive it not run, but when I turn the switch to Manual position its run, then I turn the switch to Auto position its run normally but when the car stop it'll not run again untill I turn the switch back to Manual position, this problem happen when cold condition
    someone here have experiments for that problems. may give me an advice
    thank you.........
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,046
    I've never messed with this function but it really sounds like a component in the switching circuit--either the console switch itself or the servo or relay that controls the transmission. In other words, this seems to be electrical in nature, not the transmission itself. You'd need to study how it works and find out what controls the transmission and tells it that you've just switched from Auto to Manual and vice-versa. You might ask the parts department at the dealership to show you a diagram.

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  • mh5mh5 Posts: 1
    I have an "Intellicode" Genie opener (which uses the revolving code) and found no trouble getting the auto's opener to work. Just remeber, you first have to program the car's opener with your garage door remote, then sunc the car with your garage door unit. The procedure is outlined in the owners manual.

    Hope this helps.
  • mevandemevande Posts: 190
    Hello,
    I have read posts here that seem to indicate that it's almost impossible to get service done on a BMW w/o going to the dealer. Is that true? I have a 1998 740i (awesome car, 2nd 740i) w/58,000 miles and the warranty just ran out (BMW certified). I would rather take it to a local foreign car repair shop, for they are much cheaper re: maint. Also, how likely is it to talk to a BMW tech and ask him to work on your car off of the BMW site (strait cash to him/her). Do tech's have anything that prevent them from "moonlighting"? My dealer has an outstanding tech I would like to ask the ? to in a "hushed" tone:). Any input would be greatly appreciated. Also, I have only been getting 13MPG in city driving. I don't "baby" it in that the car is meant to be "driven". What are other 740 series owners getting in city driving? One last ? .. what grade of gas are you guys putting in your 740 series (1995 and newer). I always use premium. Am I wasting $$ there?

    Thanks in advance!

    Mike

    mevande
  • mevandemevande Posts: 190
    Hello,
    From my experience having owned a 1995 740i and my current car, a 1999 740i the "average" maintanance charges are no where near 300.00 per month. I have done the "math" and my average for both cars is 48.90 a month. I don't know where you get the high maint. #'s from.

    Mike V
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    You folks might be interested in First Drive: 2006 BMW 750i/750Li. What do you think?
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