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Chevrolet Cavalier

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  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    ...so they start eating oil at 30000 miles and parts need already to be replaced? Well built, reliable, great handling. What's not to like?

    PS: Should have gotten a Protegé. HAHA!

    I know you guys will get back at me, but seriously, look around at other cars before buying a design that's out of date.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    The 3800 was out of date 10+ years ago. It's one of the smoothest, most fuel efficient and powerful V6 engines in the world. It's pretty much bulletproof to boot! Old can be good in the car world.
  • ehaaseehaase Posts: 328
    That's why GM is designing a new OHV V-6, with up to 230 hp, in a few years.
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    is FAR superior to the old GM pushrod 2.2.

    I've had a few relatives who have owned Cavaliers and Berettas with that old GM 2.2. No way in hell I woulda put up with the problems they had.

    I have driven the Saturn L many times with that new DOHC Lotus Ecotech motor. FAR SUPERIOR. Where do I begin? Smoother, quieter, better gas mileage, better quality. Its a welcome step forward for GM. 20 years ahead on the auto evolution scale compared to the pushrod motor.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    The Ecotec is the way to go if you can afford the upgrade. I admit though, the old 2.2L I have isn't awful and has good off the line performance.. At idle, it's really quiet too.

    Do they sell the Z24 sedan in the U.S.? Noticed it wasn't listed on the Cavalier web page.
  • tazerelitazereli Posts: 241
    If people are praising the old tech 2.2L, how far can the ancient 2.5L "Iron Duke" be from making a comeback?
  • A co-worker had purchased a 2002 Cavalier Z24 sedan.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Hummm. Wonder why it's not listed at chevrolet.com? They only have the "LS sport sedan".

    How does he/she like it? Does it have the 2.4L or the Ecotec?
  • Well she did love it but the dealer called her back 2 weeks after she bought it and told her she couldn't get financed for the car. Good thing for her, she had financed $20,000 for the Cavalier and with a high interest rate (husband's credit is horrible, hers is decent) was paying $460 a month for 60 months.

    Kicker is when she got her trade back her speakers that she had just had installed in it were missing. Then after she took the car home she tried calling the dealer and saying that the speakers were gone. I told her it was tough luck. She should've noticed that before she took the car home.

    She had the 2.4L if I am not mistaken. It was black with power everything, alloys, fog lights, and a rear spoiler. No sunroof though, but I don't think that's even an option in the sedan.
  • joe3891joe3891 Posts: 759
    Z-24 will be gone as soon as they run out of 2.4 engines,which will be very soon.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Z24 will be available in Canada with the Ecotec starting in a couple of months according to my dealer and the gmcanada.com web site. Perhaps it will go away next year here.
  • fangio2fangio2 Posts: 214
    the same 2.2 design that is in my Leganza?If so will the turbo bolt on?
  • ehaaseehaase Posts: 328
    The Daewoo engine is an older design from Holden in Australia. The Ecotec is a new design that debuted with the 2000 Saturn L series.
  • fangio2fangio2 Posts: 214
    whether steel or aluminum,same bore,stroke etc.I could be way off base,but I thought the basic design was from Opel with Holden,Daewoo and Saturn(?)modifying it to meet their individual configurations.
  • by the way, my post 559 was about other Cavalier owners (fellow Dallas taxi drivers), not my own experiences

    but I did own a Cavalier that I suspected of the head gasket leakage problem...

    the car I owned (1994 Cavalier sedan, 2.2L/automatic, about 85K) never had a bad enough head gasket to cause overheating...

    a Chevrolet dealer confirmed that this problem that I had, with the external coolant leakage, was similar to what happens with covered 92-93 and other year cars, and told me this car would not be covered for 2 reasons, it was a 94, not covered, and because the car was not overheating or losing "a significant amount" of coolant...

    so count me out on having replaced the head gasket, it never happened that way, the lady I sold it to just turned 105K on it and hasn't replaced it yet, her Jiffy Lube does have to top off the coolant every change, but never more than a quart or so...
  • lyn58lyn58 Posts: 6
    Thanks dindak and 7937. You guys were right on the money with your diagnosis. The dealer replaced the intermediate steering shaft. No more clunks! Thanks again for your advice.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    It's funny, I have no mechanical training, but over the years of experience and reading forums like town hall you really do pick up a lot of knowledge. I certainly can't fix anything major on my cars but I certainly have a better idea if the service dept. is trying to rip me off.

    Glad the car is fixed.
  • joe3891joe3891 Posts: 759
    Update 2000 LS ,20,000 miles no problems can't even visit the dealer for warranty work,maybe the next 10,000 miles.
  • dweezildweezil Posts: 271
    Thanksgiving Day. Need tire rotation, It's going in tomorrow. No problems so far.
  • dweezildweezil Posts: 271
    started eating oil at 30,000 miles.And no one knows the quality of this Eco-Tech engine till it's been on the road in the US a few years.It was the Saturn engine I was referring to, NOT the 2.2 Cavalier engine.But that's sort of the attitude one gets about these cars, people are so eager to trash them,they don't even bother to actually read the posts.
  • need to read these posts to know someone with a Cavalier that's had problems.
  • joe3891joe3891 Posts: 759
    Success is always knocked,j-body 20 yrs and still here.
  • dweezildweezil Posts: 271
    so you know most people, eh? Common "wisdom" and all that? Folk lore,urban legend, collective thought processes.Why,"Most people" have a friend of a friend of a friend who was actually THERE at the hospital when Rod Stewart had his stomach pumped.[Or fill in the celeb./scandal/location to suit]
    It proves my point: people just drop into a topic to dump.Why;everyone KNOWS the 220,000 to 300,000 Cavaliers that have been sold every year since the 95s came out are ALL bad!!Everyone KNOWS that a clapped out 10 year old 600 dollar car is a reliable gauge of a brand new model of the same line. GET REAL."Why, my friend bought a 94 with only 98,000 miles on it and the radio didn't work. It was real junk!"
    "Most people" and "everyone knows": not useful or constructive.
  • dweezildweezil Posts: 271
    That says it all. No one is trying to hide anything or make up stories about how much like a Rolls these cars are. Just like in high school with it's cliques and snobbery.'Ewwww, your parents bought you a CAVALIER??? They suck.'And on and on.
    It doesn't improve the level of discussion nor does it provide any help or enlightenment on the topic.
    People love Corollas, but Chevy Prisms "aren't as well made". "Most people" will tell you THAT too.
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    seems to be as well made as the toyotas. Not one problem so far in almost three years.....yet because its a "chevy"...oooooo it must be junk.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Saw a Z24 sedan this weekend at a lot out of town. Looked very nice, but the sticker was taken off so I'm not sure if it had the Ecotec or the old 2.4L in it. It was bright red with a 5-speed and appeared fully loaded with a moon roof.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    is more likely viewed as junk (which I don't think it is) because of its very high rate of depreciation compared to the Corolla which sells second hand quite easily. not true the Prizm.
    I don't think that "being a Chevy" damns a vehicle... after all... the Corvette is Chevy, is't it. I think the fact that the Cav chassis design is older than I am has more to do with its negative, or apathetic, reception.
    Hell, the current Corolla is coming under fire for being a design that dates back to 93, nevermind 82.
    just my opinion,
    alpha
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