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  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    It just seems that the Japanese cars are pretty good. Even the Korean ones (Hyundai) are starting to improve. It may not seem fair, but I just have this phobia that if I get another American car, it will be the same as the Cavalier I had. So I guess I will just stick with Japanese, for a while anyway.

    BTW, I would KILL for a new Jetta or Golf. But heard they have had some quality problems too. I drive 100 miles a day for work, so need something I can constantly depend on for transportation.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Well, if you had a bad experience I can see where you are coming from. Fact is, I have had great luck with every car I have had. My Civic, Cavalier, 626, Grand Prix, Intrigue and Cavalier #2 have all been great. I really have no bias other than good value for the dollar. GM seems to offer that right now so I have 2 GMs in the driveway (2000 Intrigue and 99 Cavalier). Hondas and Toyotas are hot sellers, so they aren't good values. GM is pushing for market share and their cars are good values both from a price and rate point.

    Wouldn't touch VW or Korean. They may be better but I think they both have a way to go still.
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  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Like to get one of the Saturn LS models. Drove one and really liked it. But I want to see if their first-year reliability pans out before purchasing. Also, I hope that I wouldn't have the same experience as I did with the Cavalier. I am really worried about that. At least Saturn has a good reliability record and also has a 30-day money-back guarantee if you don't like the car.
  • 79377937 Posts: 390
    I've just done a long trip (1800 miles) with my 99 2.2 liter automatic 4 spd. Cavalier. Highway cruising and overtaking are fine. Aircon works great. No problems with comfort. Fuel consumption as advertised - 32 miles per gallon. Brakes are great and ABS kicks in when it should. Not one moment of problems. What more could I ask for?
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Sounds like you have the same car as I do, with the same experiences. Couldn't really ask for more for the price.

    The only complaint I have is the around town mileage which I think should be a bit better. I try an keep the a/c off, but it doesn't seem to help much. Most of the driving in this car is in the city so I really notice.
  • alhoutexalhoutex Posts: 14
    I have a 99 cavalier with the 2.4L engine. The car has almost 19000 miles on it. When we bought it, it had every option you could get except the sunroof. We failed to notice until the next day that the car did not have a rear window defroster. We have noticed several other cavalier LS model sedans without the rear defrost as well, but every base model I have seen has it. What is chevys problem? I am thinking of trading up to a Malibu, any suggestions or comments?
  • malibu99malibu99 Posts: 305
    I'm not sure if the 99 had standard defroster, however, if you got every option perhaps it's just a factory mistake and the defroster was left out. You are still under a warranty so I would just have the dealership install one under warranty.
    I have a 99 Malibu LS and my fiance has a 2000 Cavalier LS. Both cars are sweet. Upgrading to a malibu is a good choice. Despite the problems with the early models ( 97-98) my 99 has been flawless. The 2000 models are even better. If you go for the LS you will have a quieter ride since I believe they are insulated a bit better. My fiance's Cavalier rides nicely and it's very comfortable for the money we paid but you notice the plushier, quieter, smoother ride the Malibu can offer, either car is still a great choice. Good luck!
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Where do you live? Perhaps they don't ship cars with defrosters to your part of the country. My wife has a regular 99 and it came standard with it as far as I know.

    As for the Malibu, don't think you will go wrong. It's a great car and you'll really like the V6.
  • alhoutexalhoutex Posts: 14
    Well, I live in southeastern Texas, so the rear defrost is definitely a must in this humidity. Well, tonight I went to the Chevy dealership where I purchased my Cavalier alomst a year ago, and drove the 2000 Malibu. This model was the LS, with the spoiler, LOADED. This is definitely a fine piece of chevy. Drives great, quiet, powerful, Sandrift metallic color. Awesome. But of course, dealers try to hammer you on trade ins. I was attempting to trade the cavalier, but they would only offer 10000, and that is for a loaded 99 LS, with the 2.4! and that is only if I would have agreed to pay sticker, plus one of those stupid add on sealants. So i told them to knock the trade out of the picture, take the package off, and sell me the car at the same $26 dollars over invoice I paid for the cavalier. They said they would do it. But when I told them I wanted to do the smart buy, they claimed I could not get the $1250 rebate with smart buy. Are they full of S&%T, or serious. I am going to call GMAC and ask them in the morning. So needless to say, I didnt drive home in the new Malibu. I have two delimas, to get the Malibu without getting killed, and sell my Calvalier before the wife goes nuts. She loved the Malibu, and now im under pressure. HELP!
  • malibu99malibu99 Posts: 305
    I believe ( someone correct me if I am wrong here ) that you can use the rebate with the Smart Buy BUT you cannot take the low rate finance with it. In other words you can not get the rebate and the low financing, it either/or. However, sometimes you can negotiate. I got the rebate AND a low APR with a LEASE. I believe you can't get rebates with leases but the dealership was nice to do it since I told them thta I plan on keeping this car.

    $10,000 trade in for the cavalier is kinda around the low end. Maybe 12,000 is ok. Why do you want to trade the Cavalier? Is it just to upgrade to a mid size? If there is nothing wrong with the Cavalier then they should offer you more. Either way you will end up with a nice car. Can't go wrong with the smooth V6 and the quietness of the Malibu. Good luck!

    PS: They might have purposely left out the rear defroster since your car was for Texas but then again you have humidity.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Sorry to say, but Cavaliers don't hold their value well. Plus, the car is really new, and you usually lose a LOT of money on one-year trades. You check out a place called CarMax. They offer high pay for good trades. I know they are in Miwaukee and Chicago, but not Texas I don't think.

    Also, why not keep the Cavalier until next year? You will get a much better trade-in on it and reduce, if not eliminate all together, yor negative equity.
  • gbm1gbm1 Posts: 1
    I was wondering . . . It looks like GM will not be infusing its small cars (Cavalier and Sunfire) program with much cash in the future . . . If GM were to take control of Daewoo, how many of you would still opt for the General Motors product . . . ie, a Daewoo?
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Actually, I think GM's next generation Cavalier/Sunfire will be built on the same frame as the next generation Saturns. You will see consolidation of platforms to cut costs. Makes cents, if you know what I mean.
  • alhoutexalhoutex Posts: 14
    Well, Ill update you on the car crisis. I put the cavalier in the paper, and never got one call on it. Ive been to 3 different car dealers, including a honda dealer. Well, the wife really wanted the Malibu, so we went in, and I ended up driving home a 2000 Malibu LS in the sandmist color. It is beautiful, but I have a few questions. The car now has 112 miles on it, and the brakes seem alot, how do I say this, Mushier, the pedal goes alot farther to the floor, and it doesnt stop as good as my 2000 grand am GT or the old cavalier. Is this normal? Also, the car is turned off, the lights turn off also, but when you turn it back on, only the headlights come back on, and you have to turn the fog lights on again every time, this goes the same for the A/C recirculate cycle. This sets me as strange. The real concern is the brakes though, ive never driven a car with brakes that require such a distance to produce action. By the way, I bit my lip and traded the cav. I had to go back and forth 4 times, and I only got 9K for the cav, but i got the malibu at invoice, and got a 4.5% apr. on a 36 mo smart buy, I put down 2500 and have $350 payments. Still got stuck because I was upside down. Oh well, Love the car.
  • malibu99malibu99 Posts: 305
    The mushy brakes are normal until they break in. YOu need to adjust them once by going to an empty parking lot and driving forward and making a sudden stop ( brake slamming). This will activate the self adjusters and the pedal should feel better.
    When the car is turned OFF and turned ON again the running lights will remain OFF until the car is put in gear. At night all the lights come on except the fogs. The fogs are considered auxiliary lights so they are not part of the main lighting system so you need to turn them on separately. What you are seing is completely normal. Enjoy your Malibu, it will give you a lt of joy, great car indeed. Good luck!
  • deanl2deanl2 Posts: 1
    HELLO!!!
    Read a magazine folks!!!
    You guys made three horrible car mistakes
    1. American
    2. GM
    3. Chevy
  • WELL I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START.FIRST OF ALL,DEANL2 IF THOSE ARE THE THREE HORRIBLE CAR
    MISTAKES WHICH ONES ARE THE THREE BETTER CHOICES?
    SECONDLY,MALIBU I CAN TELL U REALLY LIKE GM CARS
    AND VOCUS REALLY DON'T.I ONE THE OTHER HAND AM
    TRYING TO DECIDE ON A CAR.I ALWAYS NOTICED THE
    CAVALIER JUST WASN'T CERTAIN.I JUST RENTED A SUNFIRE WAS IMPRESSED WITH THE WAY IT RIDES.I'M JUST TRYING TO DECIDE BETWEEN THE SUNFIRE OR CAVALIER.CAN ANYONE BESIDES VOCUS OR MALIBU HELP?
    (JUST KIDDING).MAKING A DECISION HAS BEEN VERY
    DIFFICULT FOR ME.THIS WILL BE MY THIRD CAR.I
    PRESENTLY OWN A 93'FORD ESCORT WITH 84,000 MILES.
    WITH ONLY MAKING WEAR AND TEAR REPAIRS TO CAR.I JUST WANT A CHANGE.NOT SURE IN THE DIRECTION.BY THE WAY VOCUS,MY GIRLFRIEND PURCHASED A BRAND NEW
    99'MIRAGE LAST YEAR WITHIN A MONTH'S TIME HER BRAKES GAVE OUT ON HER HAD SHE HAD A BAD ACCIDENT.
    I'M NOT COMPLETELY KNOCKING THE CAR ON JUST HER
    EXPERIENCE BUT I BET SHE WILL.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    deanl2: That is an ignorant comment. No need for that.

    brownsugar: I won't tell you the Cavalier is the greatest small car in the world, cause it's not. It is however very reliable and full of goodies normally found in more expensive car. Things like traction control, ABS, A/C ect. We have a leased 99 which we took over from a friend a few months ago. I have no real beefs with the car and for basic cheap transport, you won't go wrong.
  • malibu99malibu99 Posts: 305
    Hello!!!

    1) Magazine mean nothing
    2) People are not lemmings
    3) Both Nissan and Ford are nothing to talk about.

    You must really fall for those silly commercials where Nissan crosses out the "COMPACT" part and plays some popular tune to make it look like they are hip. You are way to funny man. No need to dispute your comments, they show plain ignorance. After all, someone who goes by the magazines obviously can't think for themselves.
  • denniswadedenniswade Posts: 362
    I see from your profile that you were originally looking for a Toyota. I don't know why you've changed your mind, but if you want to buy an equivalent domestic, get a Prism -- it's made by GM in Fremont, California, on a line right next to the Toyota Corolla. It is, in fact, exctly the same car mechanically, and it will probably NEVER let you down. Cavaliers definitely have their good points -- the interior and exterior styling, for one -- but they simply are not as robust as a Civic, Sentra or Corolla/Prism. And stay away from Neons -- they're rolling recycling factories.
  • vcjumpervcjumper Posts: 1,110
    Or Protege, or Focus, or...

    On the positive side I got a cheque from GM today for my 96 2.2L engine head gasket out of warranty repair. They did not cover the cost of the cracked cylinder head so I'll have to fight for that I guess. I wonder what year they managed to fix this problem. Maybe in about a year. '97 owners will get the same letter I got in the mail about the defect.
  • denniswadedenniswade Posts: 362
    Ford has its hands full with the Focus right now. It's a good car in a lot of ways, but reliable it ain't.
  • theparallaxtheparallax Posts: 361
    Why would ANYONE want a Cavailer or Sunfire?! If you buy one, I betcha it won't make it past 100,000 miles without something breaking! These cars are plagued with problems. I'm sorry, but go buy a Mazda, Honda, or Toyota for God's sake! You'll save yourself a whole lot of money in the long run!
  • sunfgtsunfgt Posts: 40
    Yes, it appears that the average Cavalier/Sunfire has problems, but if you choose them carefully, you can avoid most of the problems (eg. don't get the 2.2). In any case, imports have problems too, and they can turn out to be quite nasty as well. It's just that the probability of getting an import lemon is lower. As I see it, the trick is to beat the statistics by picking a Cavalier/Sunfire that minimizes the chances of problems.

    Personally, I went for the Sunfire because it has character. I also considered the Civic and Corolla, and test-drove the Civic. However, I couldn't stand the gutless engine and the bland nature of the car. This is not to say that I think the Civic is a bad car, but it just lacks character and is a "cookie-cutter" car. The Civic does a lot of things very well: quality, ergonomics, fuel economy to name a few. I feel that it's a perfect car for those who just want to get from A to B and who think that a car is a car is a car. However, it just doesn't distinguish itself in terms of performance and styling, and the pricing can be a little difficult to swallow. Those are probably its only disadvantages.
  • venus537venus537 Posts: 1,443
    Can you wait till this fall for your new car. That's when the redesigned Civic comes out. It'll probably be the bench car in its class again with much better performance than it has now. If you can't wait, then get a Protege or listen to denniswade and get a Prism. Give the new Sentra a try. Or the new Focus. You said you were impressed with the Sunfire. I'm sure it's big improvement over your Escort, but please test drive other cars before getting a Sunfire or a Cavalier. In my opinion, the only cars below the Cavalier/Sunfire are the Neon and the Korean cars. The Protege will cost more, but will holds it value better than a Cavalier or a Sunfire.
  • 79377937 Posts: 390
    Er...scuse me folks, but I think the Nissan Sentra is far below the Cavalier. My sons 96 Sentra has just been towed for the 4th time. Plus many other sundry repairs. And jeez, look where they put the oil filter! And don't talk about the leaking trunk that even the dealer can't repair. And, don't talk about shocking dealer service..........
  • denniswadedenniswade Posts: 362
    You either have a really old, hammered Sentra, or a lemon. If it's the former, well, cars do wear out. If it the latter, you should take the matter up with Nissan's custoemr relations department. I think you'll find that your experience with this car is in the minority.....
  • malibu99malibu99 Posts: 305
    Always an excuse, always.
  • denniswadedenniswade Posts: 362
    What part of my post didn't you understand? If you're in love with your Chevy, fine. Just don't expect everyone to say, "Well, ole malibu99 says the Sentra is crap, so it must be -- I think I'll run right out and buy a Cavalier!!!"
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    But I would personally jump over 5 Cavaliers for a Sentra. My friend has a 1997 Sentra with 52K and NEVER a problem except normal wear items. He drives the heck out of it too, but does change the oil every 3000 miles. I had a 1996 Cavalier I bought used (he got his used with 14K on it and mine had 31K) and it was nothing but trouble. I would easily pick a Sentra or any other Japanese small car over the Cavalier. Price is nice in the beginning, but as I heard someone else say before, that Cavalier, when older, will eat you out of house and home with repair bills.
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