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  • kinleykinley Posts: 854
    and also enjoy the vehicle with 105,000 miles. Several of our friends have opted for new cars ranging from the Avalon to Lincoln LS. I admire the 2003 Executive, however, our portfolio of equities enable us to hold fast to that which is good and the 94 Towncar is still very good. If you can pay cash for a new Towncar and not draw down your retirement funds below one million, go for it. We have appliances older than 10 years and we don't plan to replace them because they are still working very well.

    When we were 60 years younger our parents believed that 100,000 miles was the limit for a car. Pontiac used to advertise, "Good for 100,000 miles." But, those were the days of higher engine speeds due to no "Overdrive" and the lubricants were not as efficient then as they are today. With the advent of synthetic oil and other lubricants plus the Overdrive, cars last significantly longer. Your Towncar is very safe to drive anywhere so long as you take the care of it as you would a new car. Next time you are in a dealership, take note of the "new" cars in there for "warranty work" remembering they are practically new. I recommend you change all fluids including the axle, serpentine belt, and hoses if it has been a long time since doing so and continue to enjoy the style of the '97 Towncar.
  • speedsk8speedsk8 Posts: 2
    1995 Cartier with rag top and all options?
    Body in great shape. Only 44,000 miles
    Interior is perfect.
    My father is nervous that the car has had 3 owners (all in FLA), but the carfax check reported no issues.
    The current owner has driven only 4,00 miles in the past 2 years, but says he loves the car (he cannot drive anymore)

    The price? $6500
  • kinleykinley Posts: 854
    I don't care for the carnival top and chrome wheel well add ons, but take it 100 miles and see how it drives out.
  • rea98drea98d Posts: 982
    "With the advent of synthetic oil and other lubricants plus the Overdrive, cars last significantly longer."

    Not to mention improved metallurgy and manufacturing procedures. I've got a '95 T-Bird with a 4.6L V-8 that's got 221,000 miles on it. It burns oil, but still runs. I've had to do a few little things like replace the water pump (a job I hope I never have to do again) get a leaky rear seal in the transmission fixed, replace the heater core, as well as the usual stuff like brakes, hoses, belts, ect. Not 100% trouble free, but all relatively minor things, and for 221,000 miles, I'm willing to accept a certain amount of "wrong" in my car.
  • I have been interested in many other cars and I'm intersted in the cost to repair items in this car compared to foreign cars. If the cost is the same to replace a part in an American Car compared to a German Car then I may as well get a German car.
  • kinleykinley Posts: 854
    shop for Ford Crown Victoria parts that are interchangeable with the Towncar at still a lower price.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    In my experience, the Town Car is a small fortune less to keep running than any German car, and the service on the Town Car is less than a Japanese luxury car. Town Cars and Lexus/Infiniti reliability are pretty close, at least for the first 100,000k.
  • marjermarjer Posts: 5
    I traded an '00 Cont. for a 03TC last July and posted by thoughts on the two vehicles. The TC now has 15,000 on it. It has front seats from hell. The increased power is ok but it is still under powered and not as agile as the Continental. I thought the Continental would be back for 05 or 06 model year and I would suffer through till then. Apparently this is not going to happen so the TC is going to go. We are about to take a 2,000 trip. I wish I knew a chiropractor to go with us for frequent spine manipulation. When the car went in for the 15,000 maintenance, the tech asked if there were any gripes. I said only the seat from hell, and he said you and everyone else.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Mind you, I don't disagree.....what they have done to this car is criminal. My sources seem to tell me this car is pretty much only made for livery and fleet service anymore, and they obviously don't care how the driver feels. But I have noticed (in my frequent rentals) that the Signature seats are a tad better, the ones in the Executive are just awful.....
  • gkarggkarg Posts: 230
    You mentioned the 2 old models of Lincoln, but forgot to mention the LS. If you haven't driven one, the drive/ride is fantastic. The seats were designed by Johnson Control & I have had this car on several high mileage trips - and always, always feel refreshed and ready to go at the end of a trip. The LS is a superb touring machine & has one of the best safety records (some publication rated it in the top 5 safest vehicles.)

    As far as room-a-plenty for storage in the LS - yes, it is a lot smaller than a towncar, but you just learn to take the essentials along, that's all.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    The LS is a totally different car than the Town Car, admittedly, and it's pure quality, no argument. The Town Car used to be too, until 98. It's not getting the attention it used to, I think that's all we're saying....
  • bolshoibolshoi Posts: 3
    I'm purchasing a new 2003 Exec TC here in the States but just learned that I'm going to be moving to Toronto within the next 8 weeks. Does anyone here know if the vehicle as delivered in the USA will be acceptable for inspections in Canada, or are there any alterations/modifications I'll need to make? Many thanks.
  • I have a 94 TC with 100K. When in cruise control at 65mph on a level road the trannie will suddenly drop out of o/d and then upshift back into o/d. It will repeat this cycle 3 or 4 times and then be normal for the next 50 to 100 miles or so. I bought the car last fall with about 94k on it. I checked the service records at the dealership and saw that the transmission had been flushed 3 times on separate occasions. I assume for the same problem. Apparently this is not a fix for this problem. Anyone with any ideas
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Well, for one, I think you'll need to have the dealer program the Daytime Running Lights function to "on". He should be able to do that.
    Don't know if there's anything else.....
  • kinleykinley Posts: 854
    You may be a quart or two low. Our 94 with 105,000 has never done that - yet.
  • limolimo Posts: 20
    WE'RE A SMALL (TEN VEHICLE) LIMO SERVICE IN THE NEW YORK METRO AREA. NINE VEHICLES ARE TC'S, RANGING FROM 1995 TO 2003, EXECUTIVES AND SIGNATURES. THE TENTH VEHICLE IS A 2001 FORD E-350 CLUB WAGON WITH V-10 ENGINE. MILEAGE RANGES FROM 405,00+ TO 23,000. THE OLDEST TC, A '95 SIGNATURE, HAS THE HIGHEST MIEAGE, ORIGINAL ENGINE, USING LESS THAN A QUART OF OIL BETWEEN CHANGES. WE USE ONLY SYNTHETIC OIL IN THE ENGINES, SYNTHETIC TRANS. FLUID AND SYNTHETIC REAR LUBE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY RELIABILITY PROBLEMS WITH THESE CARS. MOST OF THE CARS ARE OVER 200K MILES, WITH ORIGINAL TRANS STILL WORKING HAPPILY. WE DON'T LIKE THE SEATS IN THE 2000-2002 EXECUTIVE LONG DOORS, BUT THE '03 LONG DOOR (L SERIES) SEATS ARE EQUAL TO THE 95-97 SIGNATURE SEATS IN COMFORT, PLUS ALL THE RADIO/CLIMATE/SPEED CONTROL BUTTONS ARE ON THE WHEEL IN THE '03.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    That's good to know.....thanks.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    limo - thanks for the info, and welcome to the Town Hall!

    With your Town Car experience, you probably have a lot to contribute to this discussion.

    If I may, I'd like to ask you to take the "caps lock" off when you post. All caps make a message difficult to read, and is often interpreted as "shouting" which I am quite sure you did not intend.

    Anyway, we are glad to have you here. : )

    If I can help you find your way around, please feel free to drop me an email.
  • divmsmdivmsm Posts: 7
    Hello Folks,
    Unhappily, due to knee/access problems, I have to give up my 2001 Toyota Highlander. (Great car). I'm looking for a big car that's easy to get in & out of. I have wavered between the Lincoln Town Car & Cadillac DeVille. I cannot afford a new one so will buy a 2001 or 2000. I have read the message boards on both Edmund's Lincoln & Caddy sites and it appears that the TC people are happier with their choice than the Caddy folks. I like the TC's looks better re aesthetics.

    I have a chance to get a 2001 Exec. TC with 18,500 original mi from a dealer for $23,500. It has got just about every bell & whistle except a CD player. I intend to run its history through carfax before I buy. I have one worry though - some Lincoln writers have mentioned that a TC is not good in the snow. I live in Mass-
    achusetts & this winter was the worst in about 30 years. We had snow about every 3-4 days. Many of the storms were only 3-6 inches but some were a couple of feet. I had thought that a big car like this would get around OK in snow. I don't have a long commute and most driving is local that I do. I am spoiled by 25 years of driving SUVs in the snow. Anybody out there have advice for me re TCs in the snow? If you could let me know fairly soon, I would appreciate it as I don't know how long this TC will be on the lot so I intend to buy soon. Thanks.
  • kinleykinley Posts: 854
    and having driven RWD big Ford vehicles since 1967, the last three being Towncars, since 1980, the Towncar is very adept in snow providing the driver is experienced in snow driving and uses the correct tires. I have never had to use any tire, but the Michelin All Season, however, it is my understanding the company makes a tire specifically engineered for snow. I believe it is the Alpine. There are other brands of snow tires as well, but the Michelin All Season has worked for me. When the "Chains Required" sign is posted, it doesn't make any difference what tire you have. As stopping is more important than starting, perhaps the Alpine on all four wheels would be recommended.

    If you are trading in your Highlander, the price of the Towncar is not as important as the cash difference between the two. If not trading in, the price seems to be about 2 grand high. Check out Autotrader and E bay for values.

    My old skiing knees have been helped by 1000 mg of Glucosamine Sulfate daily for over two years.
    LOL. Kinley
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