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Chevrolet Lumina

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  • pluto5pluto5 Posts: 618
    Haven't had Yokos but I understand they are good tires. I buy BFGoodrich and Uniroyal which are made by Michelin. The former two brands are much cheaper than Michelin brand but highly satisfactory IMO.
  • I have discovered the Lumina and found it is an appealing design. What are some buying tips to look for in buying a 2000-2001 used Lumina - i.e. what are the things I need to look out for?

    Overall, what's your experiences with this car's reliability and long-term driving durability?
  • pluto5pluto5 Posts: 618
    You should be aware that all the 01's are former fleet/rental cars. But many of the 00's probably are,too.
  • yurakmyurakm Posts: 1,345
    2000 Lumina, if I remember right, also was available for fleets only. 2000 Impala for general public.

    However, there is a substantial difference between rental and fleet. I believe that the majority of fleet cars had only one driver. Probably a salesman or repairman, who put a lot of highway miles, and cared. The car was his tool of trade, after all.

    If it have 50k miles or more, probably it was a fleet car. Less than 30k - probably rental.

    Any case, used cars in general, the rental especially, require extended warranty. Aftermarket waranties are less expensive.

    How dependable must be the car? This is very personal.

    For example, I am a computer programmer in academia. Complicated programs, developed for months and years, not days. I often came late to work: there is less distractions when working late in evenings. Can even skip a day, and nobody would notice. Drive only 7 miles to work. There is a bus line in 2 miles: in the worst case I can walk and take a bus.

    My friend, also a computer programmer, works in industry. His programs are somewhat smaller and definitely simplier, but he always changes something, on short notice. Communicates a lot with his users, and must be always available during business hours. Commutes 40 miles one direction.

    So the reliability of my car does not matter much. Reliability of his car is paramount.
  • pluto5pluto5 Posts: 618
    No difference between a rental and a fleet; a distinction without a difference, IMO. Example, our high school got a new Lumina for drivers ed recently--they say it's an 02 but it's most likely an 01. As part of the drivers ed fleet it will be driven/abused by hundreds of new drivers and will most likely get minimal/factory maintenance. I've looked at numerous used cars but always end up buying new cause drivers who know that they will only have their cars for a few years have no incentive to take good care of them. In the case of fleet and rental cars, the driver(s) are not even the owners so they could give a FF.
  • yurakmyurakm Posts: 1,345
    Yes, the ex-school cars must be really bad!
  • mlfranzmlfranz Posts: 7
    I've had the same experience. I had the rear struts replaced on my 94 Lumina two years ago at 138,151 miles. I felt every bump in the road for the longest time. I now have 169,800 miles on the car and it's finally driving like a sedan again.
    It's been worth the wait.
  • mlfranzmlfranz Posts: 7
    Does anyone know if it's possible to replace the standard cluster in a 94 Lumina LS with one from a 94 Lumina Euro? Are any modifications to the wiring necessary?

    I'm not a big fan of idiot lights.....

    Thanks,
    Mark
  • yurakmyurakm Posts: 1,345
    I remember well my driving lessons.

    Stomped on gas, because did not know yet to do it right. Panic braking. Stop and go. A lot of shifting - when learning parking and 3-point turns...

    Yes, it was ultra slow, with almost zero driving on highway. However, the exercises must eat the car fast, especially transmission.
  • pluto5pluto5 Posts: 618
    And exactly what other purposes are paramount, e.g. status symbol, sink hole for money, helping the keep the US balance of payments negative??
  • yurakmyurakm Posts: 1,345
    Reliability, economy, safety, durability, comfort, size, and many other parameters. Including enjoyment of driving.

    Not paramount, of course, but valuable.

    Additionally, there is transportation and transportation. Compare a salesman who makes 60k miles per year - and an old lady, why drives two times a week a couple miles to a local supermarket.
  • jpstaxjpstax Posts: 250
    I think I posted the following link in this forum before, but here goes:


    http://www.gmme.com/chevrolet_cars/lumina/lumina_ss.htm


    I can't understand why GM of Arabia can't import this great car for sale in the USA. After all, when Chevy kills off the Camaro later this year, what high performance car will they have left to sell? Only a chosen few can afford a Corvette.

  • caesarslegioncaesarslegion Posts: 109
    hey thats an awesome car.its too bad gm thinks us simple minded americans dont want and need something like this.they want to cram malibus and and sun fires down our throats.i guess big brother thinks he knows what is best.
  • unclearnieunclearnie Posts: 1
    I recently purchased a 1995 Chevrolet Lumina LS with the optional 3.4 liter engine. It was previously owned by a retired couple living down the block from my retired in-laws. It has less than 43,000 miles and looks showroom fresh. It's fine in town, but is an absolute dog on the freeways. Is this typical of this vehicle/engine combination or has slow driving turned this into a dog? What can I do to give it some pep?
  • brentc1brentc1 Posts: 7
    Just wondering if anyone knows what could cause the low coolant light to flash. The radiator and overflow resevoir are both full. Thanks
  • lizleighlizleigh Posts: 1
    Last fall I purchased a white 1997 Lumina.

    The first time I washed it, the paint started to peel off of the rear drivers side door panel. The paint appears to peel all the way down to the metal. I can tell where the previous owner tried to touch up a spot, but the spot seems to be getting bigger.

    Since then, I have noticed several white Luminas driving around with the same body style also peeling paint in much the same manner.

    Does anyone know what is up with this, or if there are any recalls or deals to get the cars repainted?

    Also, since purchasing this car it seems like I get pretty poor gas mileage compared to my previous v6- a dodge intrepid. What is the typical gas mileage for these cars??

    Thanks.
  • dshepherd3dshepherd3 Posts: 194
    I have the same year/ model since new, now has 150k gets 25 avg and 29 on a trip, a little less than new. Piston slap has been the biggest headache. Take a piece of masking tape and see if the paint lift off using this, if so have a body shop check it out, sounds like the door was redone, I can't see the paint delaminating on one panel only.
  • nafrong00nafrong00 Posts: 7
    I also have a 1995 Lumina with the 3.4 DOHC engine. I have 152,000 miles on it and I can say with confidence the the car is NOT a dog on the highway. Infact I feel that this particular engine with it's 7000 rpm redline is particularly good for highway passing and driving. Not sure what the problem might be with the one you bought. Maybe try a fuel system/ injector cleaner like Chevron Techron or something. I've used one about every 20,000 miles and it does seem to make a difference. I recently replaced the car as my daily driver but still drive it every couple of days. It is definitly quicker than the V-6 in the new car I bought.

    On a side note...I too have seen several luminas with the delaminating paint issue. Oddly, ALL of them seem to have been white. Must be something about that paint...

    And to the guy with the low coolant light flashing, just a thought, but check your engine oil and dip stick for sticky residue. I had an olds cutlass that would flash it's low coolant light every time it blew a headgasket, which was often. The light came on even if the coolant levels appeared fine. Coolant mixes with oil creating a sticky mess if the leak is bad enough.
  • masonmimasonmi Posts: 148
    I'm looking at a 2001 Chevy Lumina it has about 30,000 miles on it in very good condition, has anyone had any problems with the years of 2000-2001 Lumina's from fleets or rentals?
  • dshepherd3dshepherd3 Posts: 194
    Great car all around, but be very cautious with these fleet cars, there are notoriously poorly maintained, check inside the oil filler cap you can see into the valve train, see if there is even slight amount of oil gelling or sliminess, pass on any one you are uncomfortable about, there are plenty around, of course insist on staring them up cold to check for piston slap.
  • ricks2ricks2 Posts: 17
    I want to replace the split bench in my 94 with leather or buckets. (After 184,000 miles the interior needs a face-lift). Any year/models that I can simply swap from a junkyard?
  • luminatedluminated Posts: 2
    I am the proud owner of a '99 Lumina LTZ...
    Quite simply the best North American auto I've owned!
    I'm pushing 110K miles,nearly have it paid off and am itching for an Impala.
    The 3.8 is a killer power plant and the car hasn't given any disappointment mechanically except for an alternator that failed after hitting a nasty Baltimore pot hole.
    Nearly perfect, the car has endured a hit and run sideswipe and a rear ender on I-70...
    Here's my dilemma: I know the car WILL last at least 200 K without much problem...do I run her til she dies or do I trade her in for the Impala?
    Decisions, Decisions ;-)
    We also own a 95 LeSabre with 130K we use for family vacations.Another fine vehicle...
  • caesarslegioncaesarslegion Posts: 109
    keep her and use her as a work car and use the new car for week ends and going out with the family. Dealers will give you nothing for trade any ways. Thats what I would do imho.
  • Anybody have problems with the plastic upper intake manifold in Luminas with the 3.8 liter engine. It can deteriorate and allow coolant into the engine causing damage upon startup due to hydrolock. My 98 LTZ has 50,000 miles and no problems so far. The Bonneville maintenance and repair site is loaded with horror stories about this. It too uses the 3.8 with plastic manifold. Repairs run from 300 to 1500 depending on the state of the engine when the problem is noticed.
  • pluto5pluto5 Posts: 618
    Are you sure it's the manifold and not the gasket? Understand the Dexcool turns acidic so best to change it at 3/30 or less.
  • TSB# 01-06-01-007A covers this. The EGR gas is ported into the manifold through a metal pipe. The exhaust gas heat causes the plastic to degrade where the hot metal meets the plastic. There is a coolant passage just a few millimeters away from the EGR port and if the manifold loses its integrity, it allows coolant in the lower intake manifold. If you shut the engine off, the residual pressure in the cooling system can force coolant into the engine block, which causes the potential for damage upon startup. The Lumina with the 3.8 liter was one of the cars listed along with the Bonneville, Regal, Olds 88 and 98's, Riviera and Park Avenue, all with the 3.8 liter engine. The Bonneville seems to be the hardest hit. Re reading the old posts on this site, I haven't seen it mentioned. This guy talks about it. www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/automan_plastic.html
  • smahmoodsmahmood Posts: 1
    Hey guys, thought I'd put this up here to see if anyone else had this problem and maybe has a fix.


    Basically I have a 95 Lumina with 75k miles on it. Basically around speeds of 60-70 mph it seems as if the engine is skipping or something. I thought maybe it needed a tuneup, and I changed the spark plugs and wires but to no avail. It drives fine aside for this, but at around 60-70 you feel a very wierd vibration. Also this is something very recent because about a week ago, I went on a 800 mile drive on this car with no problems.


    Also recently (before my 800 mile drive) I had to get my timing belt and intake gaskets replaced by the dealer and ever since the engine has become really Loud. Sounds like your driving a truck or something. Any ideas what could cause that?


    Aside for my recent probs though this car is great (Definaly far from being a "dog"). I've had some problems with the paint on the hood (wierd little places where its chiped off), but its been driving great.


    Anyway if anyone has had these probs, or knows what might be causing them, let me know. Also, I found another person with this problem at the following url: http://forums.vmag.com/pm-0601/messages/3039.html . This guy thinks its the transmission, which I find really hard to believe.


    I'd appreciate any ideas

    -Mahmood

  • luminatedluminated Posts: 2
    Thanks for the opinion,caesarlegion.
    The last payment went tonite. I do use her for work, driving 30 -40 k annually.
    I just read about the '04 Imp Super Sport and am stoked for that machine! Think I'll wait...
    I would by a new car, but the wife loves that LeSabre and doesn't really appreciate the 'sport tuned suspension' of the LTZ. I swear by it, especially within urban terrain my work takes me. I also thought about having a GM dealer where my dad is employed search for a 9C3 used by GM personnel...a long shot for a 'program' vehicle.
  • kw_carmankw_carman Posts: 114
    My mom had a black 1995 Lumina for a company car, and when she changed jobs recently, she got to turn it in. I pity the older man that the company is letting use the car since he took over her job.

    First off, the A/C spewed some awful sort of MOLD. On a hot day, you could almost loose your lunch if you didn't roll down the windows, turn it on high, and get out of the car. We took it to the dealer to have some "tray" washed out three times, and $80 later it still stank.

    Also, the driver's side power door lock just quit. One day it was there, another it was gone. $62 dollars later (just to find out what was wrong), we decided replacing the actuator just wasn't worth it. The company? They could have cared less. Before we got rid of the car with the fading black paint, the passenger side lock would only lock, and not unlock, forcing my small 5'3" mother to stretch across the bench seat just to unlock the door.

    And I thought her 1990 Lumina was bad.
  • pluto5pluto5 Posts: 618
    This car probably had a zillion miles and received no maintenance to speak of--good example of why to get a CarFax report before you buy a used car to make sure it wasn't a company/fleet/leased car.
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