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Volvo S40

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  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    First of all, there is no such thing as a new S40.
    The S40 and S60 will be combined into the new S60.
  • OK, well you got me, not bad for a volvo nerd...LOL
  • luneyluney Posts: 1
    Anyone have a great source? I've googled it, and found options, but I'd like to hear from anyone who's had a product on their car long enough to know if it yellows, hardens or any other drawbacks.
  • cx7lovercx7lover Posts: 50
    Makes no sense, the oppisite was said for the S60 which makes sense, because they've failed to update it.

    I doubt it HIGHLY that the S40 is going to lose it's name and go with the S60, the S40 sells too well, the S60 is long in the tooth and hasn't been updated in over 6 years - a BIG sign of a phase out.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,704
    I don't see why it matters. Might as well start arguing chicken vs egg.
    What is being said is that when the current S60 dies, a new car is being introduced that takes the place of both the S40 and S60.

    WHAT it will be called is of little consequence.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    Nice analysis, but its wrong.
    The problem w/ the S40 is that it is percieved as too down market to compete w/ the 3 Series and A4's of the world.
    Volvo historically takes time to replace their models.
    The first S40 debuted in Europe in 1995,and wasn't changed until 2004.
    Thats 9 years.
    S80 went 10 yrs
    XC90 will be 8 yrs.
  • s60leasers60leaser Posts: 53
    Hi there
    I am considering buying/leasing a 2008 s40-should I wait for the New redesigned S40/60 combo car/ It looks great in the photoshopped image(LOL) and may be worth extending (UGGGGH) my lease a few months...
    :confuse:
    OPINIONS?
  • snead_csnead_c Posts: 64
    I have 38,750 mi on a 2006 which is essentially the same car. No problems and I would gladly purchase it again. It's a T5 AWD and gives 31+ on the highway and 21 around town.Drive one and see if it "fits". If so, I bet you can really get a great deal now. :)
  • volvobuffvolvobuff Posts: 35
    Well, I am looking at it from another point of view. I am presently leasing a 2008 S40 which I really love. I am seriously considering buying it out at lease end so that I don't have to get a bloated S40/60 or deal with the new model shakedown problems that Volvos always seem to have. The current S40 is a mature car with no apparent genetic problems that I am aware of. If I were you, the answer would be a no-brainer -- I'd get the current model in a heartbeat.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    The new S60 isn't due until April 2010
    So, I'd get the current car.
  • s60leasers60leaser Posts: 53
    Thanks for the feedback-Anyone have an issue with the "Blind Spot" in the current S40? Dealer said "Yes, but you just have to remove the rear headrests and its better..."
  • snead_csnead_c Posts: 64
    Yes, mine have been in storage since week one...we do not have backseat riders so no safety issue there.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    For whatever reason, the auto-dimming rear view mirror is larger than the non auto-dimming.
    I feel more comfortable driving the S40 w/ the auto-dimming mirror.
  • volvobuffvolvobuff Posts: 35
    Your question about the blind spot threw me for a loop. I have had a 2008 S40 for six months and never noticed there was a blind spot on the right rear side. I just took my car out for a spin, and I still don't think the car has a blind spot. The small triangular rear window even provides added security and an extended field of vision. I have had any number of cars with RR blind spots that ranged from somewhat annoying to outright dangerous. With the 2008 S40, maybe it is a problem for a shorter or taller driver. I am 6'0" and, as far as I am concerned, the problem doesn't exist.
  • s60leasers60leaser Posts: 53
    Well, I am NOT short! :) but significantly less tall than 6'... :shades: I also asked the dealer about a larger rear view mirror-he said he had never been asked that and had no idea if Volvo even offered one... This is the same dealer who is trying to talk me into an S80 as
    " cheaper than an s40 lease". Somehow I don't think his numbers will add up...
  • s60leasers60leaser Posts: 53
    Is it actually a larger mirror? I asked the dealer about a larger mirror-Said he has never heard of one,...
  • volvobuffvolvobuff Posts: 35
    Actually, they may well add up. I got the same pitch from one dealer when I was shopping for my S40. He had a lot of unsold S80s on his lot that he wanted to move. The current model S80 has never sold well, starting from its introduction, and Volvo has heavily subsidized this model with very aggressive leasing and purchase deals from day one. I test drove all three S80 models and was underwhelmed by all of them. The normally-aspirated 6 is the only cost-effective model, but the transmission was badly matched to the engine performance. The V-8 was the only model with decent performance, but its MSRP is way too high (10K more than the 6) and it provides lousy gas mileage. I would gladly get a large Volvo if it were a decent car, but I just don't think Volvo has the genes to produce a large luxury sedan. My 2008 T5 S40 and 2007 T5 V50 purchases were no-brainers: great cars and decent performance at a reasonable price.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    Actually, the S80 DOES lease for less than the S40.
    You have to get a 3.2 w/out many options.
    The auto dim mirror is the one you want in the S40.
  • s60leasers60leaser Posts: 53
    Thanks-The dealer has now come up with a new S80 deal: $4,000 plus $4250 plus free factory scheduled maintenance or additional discount. I have not heard back from him re: what that means in terms of a mo pymy.
    two questions:
    1) If i lease then want to buy out the lease before it ends, how is the purchase price calculated?
    2) Why is MSRP used to calculate depreciation-and not the sell price, which we all struggle to negotiate!
    I think I may have to move this post over to the s80 lease questions-But thanks for the input!!
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,704
    1) If i lease then want to buy out the lease before it ends, how is the purchase price calculated?

    Typically, remaining payments plus residual.

    2) Why is MSRP used to calculate depreciation-and not the sell price, which we all struggle to negotiate!

    That's actually in your favor, so don't argue. :)
    For example, you negotiate a $40k car with a 50% residual to $35k. With the residual based on MSRP, you are paying $15k depreciation. If the 50% residual was based on purchase price, it would be $17,500, leaving you paying $17,500, or $2500 more than the first scenario.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • s60leasers60leaser Posts: 53
    That's actually in your favor, so don't argue.
    Unless you (meaning me) are planning on buying out of the lease early...
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    Unless you (meaning me) are planning on buying out of the lease early...

    Doing it your way, you would pay more interest. As well as having a higher payment.
    Both of which would increase your buyout costs.
  • Didn't see any exactly appropriate place to post this so here goes- Have a 95 Volvo 940. When you are running above 45 MPH and for extended distances the AC is so cold it freezes you out,. At slow speeds or with stop and start, it becomes just sort of tepid. However, after you have run it 30 minutes or so it seems to stay cold and be OK even if you shut if off for an hour or so- say drs. appt. Seems like it must be pressure or relay related but that's just a guess. Anyone have any ideas?
  • m4336m4336 Posts: 1
    I am trying to find out if a 225/45R17 will substitute for a 205/50R17 on a 2007 S40 T5 AWD. The local dealer can't tell me. Anyone know?
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    The OEM size is 25.1", whereas the new size would be 25.0". Try this neat java tire size calculator out and see for yourself: http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

    It'll be a tad wider, but probably should be fine. You might want to see how much clearance there is when the wheels are turned full lock just to be certain.

    -Brian
  • I have a 2001 S40 and it just run over 40K miles. I don't remember if the tires were 35K or 50K. There is no mentioning in the manual. Does anyone know how to find out?

    Thanks!
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    Well, do the tires look worn?

    Tires don't have an expiration date or expiration miles.
    A lot depends on driving habits, weather, tire pressure, vehicle weight and performance.
    If the tread is below 4/32's or the sidewalls look worn down, or there is a lot of cracking in the tire, it's time to change them.
  • I've read different numbers from 1/16 to 3/16 inch or 1.5 mm to 3.5mm.

    What's the right number?

    Thanks!
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    4/32's is equal to 2/16's.
    Which is about 3 MM.
  • You might find the information posted at Tire Fack useful.
    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/tiretech.jsp
    Charlie
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