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  • I just took delivery of 2000 sel and the noise comming from the gas tank wakes up my 2 year old!
    A service tech. went for a ride with me and "can't believe how loud the swooshing noise is" from gas going back and forth .At a start it sounds like a bowling ball rolling into the back door! The test drive did not warn me of this, apparently there was only a few gallons in the tank. Dealer is contacting ford to see if they can be authorized to wrap the tank with insulation. This needs to be recalled escort and windstar don't have bafels in tank to eliminate the swooshing noise Any one else have this problem or do you all crank the radio so you don't here it! I'll let you know what they do.
  • I have not heard this noise but maybe that's because my kids are too busy teasing each other for me to hear anything. Ford will probably suggest you have another kid so they can make more noise in the back for you and drown out the noise coming from the tank.
    O.K. just kidding, but that is the way Ford tends to make you feel when you have a problem.
    I have heard this sound while riding in the middle seats of another brand of van so I do understand how disturbing it is and you are right it should be fixed.
  • tmanttmant Posts: 70
    My 2000 Windstar SE oil light never seems to turn on. It only turns on when I leave the car in ON or turning it off and starting the car right afterwards.

    Anyone else have this problem? (I asked this before but didn't get any response.)
  • I've never checked that on my 96. I know I've seen it flash on momentarily while starting so I just assume it works. I would be concerned if I had never seen it on or if it came on after starting.

    If you are concerned that it is malfunctioning, take it to the dealer. They should be able to test that in a matter of minutes.

    H.M.
  • Every car I've ever owned flashes the oil pressure warning light momentarily on startup to indicate that the bulb is functional(not burned out) - it will also remain steadily lit in the ignition 'on' position if the car is not running(as will most of the other diagnostic lights). The only time the oil pressure warning light remains lit during driving is when you experience a loss of oil pressure, which is generally followed by engine meltdown.
  • rjsvtrjsvt Posts: 1
    I bought a 2000 Windstar LX about 3 weeks ago in Connecticut. Among the options the car has is the Comfort Group which is advertised to include the auxiliary climate control system, privacy glass, luggage rack, and mini overhead console. I am embarrassed to say that I just noticed that while the 2nd and 3rd row windows have the privacy glass, the rear hatch does not - it has the same slightly tinted glass as the front windshield & driver/passenger windows. I called the dealer to confirm that this was the correct delivery of this option and he said he had other LX's with privacy glass on the lot that included it on the hatch. He recommended I check with Ford customer service, which I did. The cust service rep looked up my vehicle build data and indicated the the car was not built with Comfort Group 86C, but with the "reduced" Comfort Group 862 which means that some of the features are 'reduced" from the Comfort Group on the SE and SEL. No where is any of this described in any of the Ford publications that I have seen on the Windstar, and I have not seen another LX with privacy glass that doesn't have it on the hatch window. In case it matters, the other options are driver's side slider, the cd radio w/rear controls, full overhead console, and power drivers seat. Can someone confirm whether the LX Comfort Group privacy glass should be on the hatch? Thanks.
  • Hi. I'm new here. I just bought a '99 Windstar with 25,000 miles on it (used as a rental vehicle by the dealership. Q1: I immediately changed the oil & filter and noted that after putting in the recommended 5 quarts, running it (to fill the filter) and letting it sit an hour, the dipstick shows halfway between Min and Max. On my old Escort, the similar situation would show a mite over Full. What is your experience? After reading about the fuel guage for the 20 gallon tank being installed with the 26 gallon tank, I wanted to check. Q2: After I start the Windstar, the oil light takes about 2 seconds to shut off. On my old Escort, it was almost immediate. Does this mean it has poor oil pressure, or is it just a difference between the two engines (1.9L 4 cyl. vs 3.8 L V6)? If it has bad oil pressure, I can still cancel the deal.
    After reading the Windstar Problems board, I feel jittery. I still bought the Windstar because of its safety (and my two young kids) and because I could not afford the only two other models with similar crash tests (Sienna, Odyssey). Thanks in advance for your help.

    Ed
  • Sorry to take up two posts with this, I forgot something:
    Or I guess it could be a difference in the sensitivity of the sensors (the Escort's was not as sensitive and went off after the pressure reaches 3 pounds and the Windstar's goes off after he pressure reaches 10 pounds). That is why I want to check with you to see when your oil light goes off.
    With respect to the oil level, more oil is good, as long as you do not exceed the maximum for the engine (good for oil pressure, cooling, lubricating). So I would add an extra cup or pint (so long as it did not go over Max) if I knew that the dipstick was truly correct in being half-way between Min and Max. Thanks again.
  • pjyoungpjyoung Posts: 885
    On our 95 the Jiffy Lube guys always said it was a quart low, but on our 95 Windstar and my departed 93 T-Bird, the word "max" was on the dipstick with a rather long arrow pointing towards the max marker. It ALWAYS looked low at first glance. A second look showed that it was full.
  • Definitely NOT!. For the following reasons:
    The Ford dealerships still tries to sell by the 19th century tactics. Try to get a straight answer from them!. Just ask for the best price for the vehicle "sitting in their lot". GOOD LUCK. They still do their two step shuffle -excuse me, I need to know what my manager/ supervisor has to say about this price. Why do they do this? Just to insult the intelligence of today's buyer? No wonder their lots are always full of vehicles -all models in all colors, all the time.
    I was in the market for 2000 windstar (wife wanted the safest minivan to transport our children) and this gentleman was seriously pushing the 1999 model (the one that he did not have on the lot!).
    Inspite of informing that I am aware of all the figures (invoice, incentives, markups etc.) nobody was ready to give me the bottom figure (I was not trading in any vehicle, and was paying in cash).
    Grudgingly (by this time I knew I was not buying the van, but I wanted to get the feel of driving a Ford product) We went for testdrive (1.3 miles total, and HE was driving for half the way!), the SEL was good but the aftertaste of the experience (dealership) was very bad.
    Bought Honda Odyssey (@ MSRP) without any regrets (5 min at the Honda dealership, 18 day wait). Wife is all smiles. 5 star rating, 5 star drive, 5 star satisfaction.
  • I have in my hand, Ford TSB 99-13-1 dated 6/28/99 on Engine oil mixed with coolant/coolant loss. Its a three page document if anyone needs more info on it, they can email me at Rooneyms@aol.com with a fax number and I can fax it to you.

    It covers the 96-97 Thunderbird, 96-98 mustang, WINDSTAR, 97-98 E150,f250,f150 and 96-97 cougar.

    "Issue
    Engine coolant may be leaking into the engine oil on some vehicles. The internal coolant leak may be difficult to identify. This may be caused by the lower intake manifold side gaskets and/or front cover gaskets allowing coolant to pass into the cylinders and/or the crankcase.

    Action
    Revised lower intake manifold side and front cover gaskets have been released for service. Refer to the following text and Application Chart for details"

    I've talked with a mechanic at Ford who says the intake gasket was redesigned with this fix because it wasn't able to withstand the heat. If you redesign something, doesn't that mean the first one wasn't designed properly? And shouldn't anyone who has to replace an engine because of this error, be reimbursed? (I know, I'm talking to the choir) It sounds like this may be Verse 2 of the head gasket problem. It may answer why the 96/97 Windstar are having problems even after the head gasket was redesigned.
  • tmanttmant Posts: 70
    I replaced my oil with 5 quarts and it is very close to the center of the min and max marks, which was where the oil level was with the original oil. I have a 2000 Windstar SE with the 3.8L engine.
  • I guess it depends on the dealer you go to. If you come in with invoice prices, you will get a good price. I requested info from Ford's web site from a local dealer. In an hour, the dealer called me and gave me a price of $100 over invoice. I had been talking with another dealer who had quoted me $300 over and he met the price. THEN, I said, let's lease it. We went thru the numbers together on the computer. No hassles. Just gotta get the right deal I guess!
  • I hear the Ody guys say how meaningful the MSRP on the Honda is. If that is the case, why do the Honda dealers play the same games as any other dealer?? They low ball you on your trade. They try to add options. And if possible, they try to sell you at or above MSRP.

    Ford low balls you on your trade. They try keep you far from invoice and they want to add options where possible.

    Doesn't sound that much different to me.

    Now, if you walk into the Ford dealer invoice prices in hand, put in a reasonable offer, you walk out with a low hassle deal as mentioned above. And if you walk into Honda and willingly pay MSRP, again it's a low hassle deal.

    Again, not much difference to me.
  • Good luck with your Windstar. I hope you got my email regarding your decision and my experiences with the Windstar. Do you have any idea why the van had 25,000 miles on a 1999 and was traded in? Was it a lease maybe or demo? Again, good luck and keep us posted on how things go for you.
    Heidi
  • The bottom line is always important. I would like to know if, on the average, the price of a WS is on/slightly over/way over the invoice price. Or does this have more to do with the old supply and demand. Info I am looking for a 00 LX, but I want to know what people are paying before I go to the dealer.

    Thanks James
  • The bottom line is always important. I would like to know if, on the average, the price of a WS is on/slightly over/way over the invoice price. Or does this have more to do with the old supply and demand. Info I am looking for a 00 LX, but I want to know what people are paying before I go to the dealer.

    Thanks James
  • tmanttmant Posts: 70
    I don't know where you are shopping for your Ford, but here is Houston, just about every dealer has an internet sales staff. I was able to get my 2000 SE at invoice (plus the other typical fees) of around $25500 with delivery.

    Just call and ask for their internet department!
  • I have a 96 windstar and I need to put brake fluid in, but the reservior is back by the firewall under the big black plastic shelf. How do I put some in????
  • My wife got an unplanned Xmas present this week when the tranny on her '91 Camry died. Time to upgrade to a minivan. The arrogance of Honda dealers on the Odyssey is offensive..."We'll arrange a test drive, but you must commit in advance to buying the vehicle." If the Odyssey is such a hot vehicle, how come they can't seem to produce very many? So, upon recommendations from a couple other Windstar owners (who haven't had any more or fewer repairs than fellow Toyota/Honda owners), we bought a 2000 SE from Jerry's Ford in Leesburg, VA. MSRP was $31,035 including various options and destination. I offered $27,000--$150 over invoice, including the $500 rebate. They took it without further discussion.

    Tom
  • My name is jeff Blankenship and I live in Champaign, IL.

    I just bought a '98 Windstar GL in October and this is the closest thing to an owner's forum/web site I've found so far. I'm looking forward to reading all the things you all have to say and hopefully share some useful info with you as well.

    The van had 36k on it and needed rotors and drums turned and the tranny Neutral TSB done (after several useless attempts by the selling dealer to dodge the bullet), but Ford and the dealer agreed to cover the cost of the repairs and for now the van is everything I hoped it would be. I did fairly exhaustive shopping and think I got the cream of the crop on all counts, best year of the best van on the market. Honda's new van was second place in my opinion. Nice, but try getting your hands on one, used is even more rare than a new one. New they were about $12k out of my price range.

    Thats all for now, but I'll be sure to pop in again soon.
  • rugmankcrugmankc Posts: 133
    You can get funnels with 12 to 18 inch rubber hoses already attached from auto stores. These will bend to the shape you need to get to the reservoir. Once you you use it for brake fluid wash it thoroughly or better yet don't use it for other car fluids, so they don't mix.
  • Anyone have to wait this long for a 2000 SEL? I was told it would take 6-8 weeks and it is now going on 11 weeks. If I wanted to back out the deal, can I get my deposit back or can they keep it?

    Thanks,

    jeff
  • Anyone have to wait this long for a 2000 SEL? I was told it would take 6-8 weeks and it is now going on 11 weeks. If I wanted to back out the deal, can I get my deposit back or can they keep it?

    Thanks,

    jeff
  • Anyone have to wait this long for a 2000 SEL? I was told it would take 6-8 weeks and it is now going on 11 weeks. If I wanted to back out the deal, can I get my deposit back or can they keep it?

    Thanks,

    jeff
  • I just took delivery of a 2000 Windstar LX, four-door, standard bench seats in rear, no entertainment system. Bought it at invoice (no $200 processing fees), by the way. It did not come with floor mats despite the Ford brochure that said that floormats ("front and rear") are "standard." The dealer says he will rectify the situation, but what am I entitled? My questions are: (1) how many mats should I have gotten "standard" without ordering option 167 (floor mats); and (2) how many mats go with option 167?

    I have called parts departments of various dealers to inquire what is a standard set and got answers ranging from 4 to 6 (driver, passenger, short second row, long third row, passenger side entrance and cargo area). Not all identified the last two pieces. It seems that nobody knows for sure.

    I would appreciate hearing from 1999-2000 Windstar owners about their floormats.
  • I am about to lease a Windstar LX. I have a 2500$ out of pocket and a 321$ a month payment. It has 4 doors, rt. door electric, privacy glass, floor console, comfort group, overhead console, 3.8 engine. I am leasing at Able Ford, Rockville Centre, NY. Does anybody have any advice or feel whether or not this is a good deal? Thank you.
    -Galigirl31
  • I guess I should
    have mentioned that I get 15K miles on that
    lease,which would be fine for me. Also, it is a
    2000 model van. I was wondering if the numbers
    sounded good.
    Thanx again
    Galigirl31
  • markianmarkian Posts: 17
    Does anyone have experience with adding a remote starter to their Winstar. Can this be installed with a factory order or should it be installed subsequent to delivery.
  • I am considering a 2000 Windstar with the Class II towing option. I need to tow an enclosed snowmobile trailer that is loaded to about 2000 lbs. Does anyone have experience with the towing option they can share?
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