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Audi A8

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  • bertram60bertram60 Posts: 113
    Thanks Mario,
    I saw that picture on line a while ago and use it as my backgorund. Thanks for the heads up, I'm sure my Automobile mag is at home. I hope the new A8 ends up looking good in person, hard to tell from the picts.
  • flotronixflotronix Posts: 2
    Hi. I own a '97 4.2 with all the options, cold weather, warm weather, etc. Have had it now for 2 years. Bought it with only 13k on it. Found out after I bought it (from an Audi dealer) that the car had been an Audi training vehicle in CT, I think. They would bug it and then let service techs try to find out the problem. Car had lots of little problems when I got it, but after MUCH conversation and letter writing I was able to get Audi to cover most everything under Audi Assured. I love the car and it is hard to imagine driving anything else after owning this car. Lease is up in Dec. and I will have to decide what to do next. Hate paying the price they want for a new one, that's why i bought used. So, might buy this one out of lease (has 58k miles now) or work a trade on another 1 or 2 year old model. But on to my question. I get lousy radar detector performance in this car. If we put the same detector in my wife's 2000 Honda Odyssey it works fine. Does it have something to do with the special insulated glass? What's the solution for the radar detector? I also noticed in an earlier post that someone had a problem with AM radio reception. I do also. Dealer changed out the radio and it didn't improve. They don't know what to do about it.
  • bertram60bertram60 Posts: 113
    My friend had the same problem in his '98 with any type of transmitter/detector, but I don't seem to in my '00. His solution was to install a Valetine One in the car with the sensors/antenna mounted behind the grill. The glass was the problem, but it seems to have been recitified in the '00 and later models.
  • flotronixflotronix Posts: 2
    Thanks for the info. I read in some Audi literature that they changed the type of windshield glass in 99 or 00, so that must have solved that problem. My windshield got chipped a couple months ago and fortunately I was able to have it fixed without replacing the entire windshield, as the repair shop said that it was very special to the tune of $3400 for replacement!!
  • bertram60bertram60 Posts: 113
    Here in FL windshields are covered under insurance with no deductable, but i bet my carrier will have something to say about that if/when i have to replace mine!
  • I'm looking at a used '99 A8 with only 18k miles on it.
    Asking price is $37k; it's a lease return, very clean.

    Does this sound like a decent deal?
    Are there hard to find bugs that could cost me down the road.

    I figure since it's still under mfg. warranty I should be safe.

    Can someone tell me if all scheduled maintenance is included up to a certain
    time and milege on this car?

    Thanks,
  • lostwageslostwages Posts: 21
    Steverisisty: We are in the same boat! I am also considering a '99 A8 in the $37K range (black car in Seattle by chance???).

    I have never owned an Audi, so I will not be much help to you. I am hoping an A8 veteran will assist both of us regarding this technological wonder of a car. I love the 300hp and quattro system!

    I have not driven the A8. I drove an A6 over the weekend but did not have time to drive an A8. I liked the A6, but my wife likes the look of the A8 better, and I like the idea of a larger car with the bigger engine. My only concerns are maintenance for this complicated machine, and the fact that an all new A8 will be on showroom floors in the spring of 2003. I know that is quite a ways off, but it will kill the resale value of the current body style.

    Please share your test drive experience and what you consider the pros and cons to this car.
  • bertram60bertram60 Posts: 113
    I went from a '98 A6 2.8 to my current '00 A8. The A8 is an amazing car to drive ('00 has a different 310hp engine than the '99). My car is 19 months old and has 37k miles. There have been a few problems, but nothing major (other than annoying rotor warpage). While I can't imagine driving anything else, I do not think that I will keep this car for anything longer than the 4y/50k warranty (it was certified pre-owned w/5y/75k Audi warranty) due to what I know could result in some major maintenance bills. Brake problems (specifically warping rotors) are a common complaint and can be solved by using cross drilled rotors and better pads. I have not done this as Audi is still very happy to pay for repairs. As this has been a high mileage commuter for me, I will probably take the loss and buy the new S8 when it arrives (at least that's my current plan).

    My best friend (and previous owner of my car) has an '01 S500 sport that I had last week (poor soul took delivery of his new 996 Turbo) and can say that while the Audi doesn't have the street recognition of the MB, it is certainly much more enjoyable to drive. My buddy agrees, and wished that he hadn't passed on his '01 S8 and bought the MB.

    If you can have the cars certified by an Audi dealer, can get a hold of the service records and don't plan on owning the car for more than 3-4 years, I would highly recommend the A8. Remember even Audi's CPO warranty is from the date of initial delivery of the car. If you are worried about the costs associated with owning a high end, complicated sport sedan (it is all of these), then don't bother even driving one. It makes the A6 feel like a poorly designed slug, and NONE of the competition can compete. A8's are the best kept secrete around! MHO
  • jtouga1jtouga1 Posts: 8
    All you European car lovers out there, please check into "European Parallel Importing" on the Smart Shopper in the Town Hall.

    I really need you opinons and advice on this subject. Thanks...

    Jon
  • lostwageslostwages Posts: 21
    I am leaning towards buying (or more likely leasing based on one of the above posts re: long term costs) a '99 A8 that I have found on the internet. The car is offered at $36,900 w/ 16,000 miles.

    It is advertised as having all options but for the cell phone. I have searched but can't find a site that will give me detailed info re: standard equipment and what optional equipment was offered on the '99 model. I would like help in finding out what options this car should have. Additionally, any input from owners of the '99 model would be appreciated (pros/cons). The 2000 and 2001 sound great, but my budget is in the '99 range - although the newer 310 hp engine would be nice!
  • Things seem to be a little slow here. You will get better results on the www.audiworld.com site, go to the A8 forum. $36,900 for a low miles '99 is a good deal! Good Luck!
  • pjn2pjn2 Posts: 2
    I posted ? on the AM radio a few months ago. It finally was solved by the dealer (under war) when they replaced the arial assembly. Works fine now.

    They also just replaced the tranny in my car - also under warranty. It shifted funny between 4-5, slipping a bit. And it did something very odd at high speeds (+70) when I let up on the accelerator. It kind of thumped, let go briefly. Wierd. Service mgr couldn't believe it either and they changed chip several times, went back and forth w the factory, etc. Finally they just swapped it out. Solved the main mechanical problems but since they changed the chip it still acts odd when in 5th gear. It still shifts weird, even w the new tranny. I'll have to take it back again. This is my 6th Audi and I've never had problems before. I love this car, but this problem is getting tiring.
  • acelinkacelink Posts: 106
    Anyone know where I can see the pictures of 2003 A8 on the web? Thanks.
  • We have a 1998 Audi A8 with 52,000 miles. Other than rotor warpage, taken care of by Audi, and sorry Goodyear tires when new, it has been an excellent high performance sedan. Good fuel economy on the open highway, 23 to 24 mpg at 80+, and reasonable around town, 17. This is the type of car that quietly sneaks up on folks and is extremely competent. I recommend switching to Michelin or Pirelli if your Audi has the Goodyears, the difference in handling is incredible. Also highly recommend Gerald of Audi Service at Don McGill Audi, now Advantage Audi in Houston, Texas, he knows how to take care of the car and the customer.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Thanks for that post. This topic on what is one of my favorite cars, was dying. The recent Avantissimo concept shows the direction the A8 is headed. It will be an awesome machine.

    M
  • I have tested a lot of cars and owned a lot of cars. It seems that the only car to own for luxury, performance and some class is the A8. A current review liked the 750 better, but there is to much "stigma" associated with Beemers here in L.A. I've owned 4 Audis in the past, and look forward to another.

    The best deal seems to be a previously owned 2000 A8, with the latest improvements. Anyone know if the 2000's had the Hot option with the solar sunroof/ air exchange system and insulated glass?

    Also - for a very active A8 forum, please see the one on the Audiworld site. Don't know why this one is so slow - the A6 forum is very active here. I guess we are just too exclusive.
  • my 2000 A8 had the warm weather package which included insulated glass, solar sunroof/air exchange system. The A8 is by far the best high performance sedan in the world. I regrettably have just sold mine, but will be ordering a new S8 when the next generation comes out.
  • aimanaiman Posts: 61
    and the topic dies once again....
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    No....No....NO...........

    M
  • rmorin2rmorin2 Posts: 110
    I am trying to decide between a late model used A8 and a 740i or iL. Would appreciate feedback from A8 owners. Lots of information available from 7 series owners as compared to A8 owners. Particular problem areas and modely years would be appreciated. Thanks.
  • aimanaiman Posts: 61
    as a non-owner, I suggest you to go with the A8. A8 is rare, and look waay cooler inside/out than bmw.
  • The A8 is quicker and more sporty than the il. And because most drivers don't know what an A8 there is the fun of surprising riders with its ability to cruise, uneventfully at super legal speeds.

    The front rotors have been a problem but Audi has taken care of any issues. The original Goodyears were sorry, now replaced by Michelins. You will enjoy the Audi.
  • When looking at the A8 ask to visit with the service manager and see how they react to the customer. Our dealership treats us very well and always has a loaner car available. They go above and beyond the call of duty.
  • By far the best sport sedan on the market. 2000 saw an increase in hp and decrease in weight (more aluminum used throughout), so they're a little quicker. Most definitely by whichever of these from a reputable dealer as these are both frighteningly complex and expensive cars to own and maintain. Brakes were the reason for my separation from my beloved '00 A8. I'd make sure the car was under Audi Advantage if at all possible. Also see if you can pull service records to see what's been done. FYI my 2000 was sold (traded) for $39,500 with 40k miles in excellent shape and loaded (nav, phone, warm weather, cold weather, premium sound, comfort, xenons, everything) so I'd look for a '00 if at all possible. Take advantage of the rather high depreciation due to this spectacular cars unrealized potential in the US.
  • garybsigarybsi Posts: 5
    Wife and I took an A8 for a test spin last weekend. Started with the A6 and then the 8. Unbelievable experience, disguised and well kept secret.
    I was looking at the Lexus after listening to my Lexus friends drivel, but after driving an A8 I think my mind is made up. In the snow belt everyone with the Lexus complains about the rear wheel drive. Not a problem with the Audi.
    As technoligically advanced the Audi is, my only complaint was that there is no automatic turn off for the headlights when you exit the car ( even Chevy has that feature). I find that amazing when you consider all the other toys the 8 has to offer. Not a major problem but it really surprised me it was missing.
    The dealer was even surprised that it wasn't either standard or an option for the Audi.
  • mbnut1mbnut1 Posts: 403
    Did you try the A6 4.2 by any chance? One of the fellows on the boards has owned both it and the A8 and seems to prefer the A6 4.2.
  • bertram60bertram60 Posts: 113
    One of the reasons I loved my A8 was that is was a wonderful little secret. It's both the upside and down side. I had more than one person get in my A8 and start drooling, then we'd go for a drive. It is by far one of the most competent vehicles on the road.

    The A6 4.2 is also a tremendous vehicle, albeit somewhat smaller inside. If you need the space of an A8 (as i believe only the long wheelbase models are around other than the S8) that go for it. If space is not a priority you should look into the A6 4.2.

    Happy Hunting!
  • garybsigarybsi Posts: 5
    mbnut1, I did drive the A6 TT but found the seats a little short for my legs. Considering the fact that I am need the extra length in the legs from the hip to the knee I am opting to get the A8. Other than that, i thought the A6 TT is quite a nice vehicle. In my opinion, the A8 is much better than any MB I have driven.
  • automan227automan227 Posts: 118
    I have had my 1998 A8 4.2 for about a year now. I picked it up Audi Assured about a year ago. Since that time, there have been no really major problems with the car and love the car. Could just used a little more power....pre owned s8 here I come.

    Anyway I thought I would just clarify some of the problems that other owners have had and that I had.

    1) Radar detectors/garage door openers not working. This is caused because of the fact that the body is all aluminum and that until 2000 the A8 was manufactured with a windshield that had lots of metal in it therefore causing such devices not to work. I even had to get a handsfree phone kit so that I could use my cellphone in the car, because otherwise I would not get a signal.

    2) Transmission shifting in a funny way.
    The A8 is equipped with a feature known as Adaptive Learning which learns your "driving habits" and then...well...tries to adapt to it to get the best gas mileage. My service manager told me to bring the car in and he could fix the shifiting problem. As he did it (let me watch) he explained to me this whole adaptive learning system. When he gave me the car back he said that the problem should be gone, but that I will notice a minor loss in gas mileage. Sure enough when I got back in the car and put my foot down on the gas, the thing flew forward- Something which I was not expecting since I had gotten used to that other shifting pattern.

    Since then I have had basically no problems reliability wise.

    Hope this helps any perspective buyers.

    AS
  • garybsigarybsi Posts: 5
    I recently ordered a new A8L 2003 for delivery in October. In view of the fact that the A8 will experience a re-do in the summer of '03, I am wondering what the effect will be on the current body styling when the new style hits the market next summer.
    I visited another dealer this week and they were willing to knock $3000 off the list price which I felt was inadequate for a car that is going to have a make over next summer.

    What thoughts do any of you have about the pricing for the current model in view of the make over. If I purchase a new A8L I am somewhat concerned about the depreciation issue in view of the changeover. That leaves Option "B" - leasing.
    The new pricing schedule is out for the '03 and Audi apparently has put together a $1950 package which includes the Navigation System, Front and Rear Parktronic, Tire pressure Monitoring System and 17" forged wheels with All season tires. The Solar sunroof option remained at $850 as an option. The effect is a $1490 savings over the '02 model for those options.

    Also, does anyone have any idea of what the "new" body style will be, or where it can be seen?

    Thanks,
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