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  • bertram60bertram60 Posts: 113
    Well, I do a little of both, work hard, play hard. Also, having spent the money, I'm always looking for ways to improve what I have, and was hoping to get some insight from this Town Hall. I guess that most A8 owners just drive thier cars and don't really enjoy them for the great performers they are.
  • mariobgoodemariobgoode Posts: 114
    You're so lucky to drive one. Congratulations on your financial security and success. Me, I'm waiting for the next model, reportedly coming out in March 2003. By that time, the luxury tax would be phased out, and hopefully, it wouldn't cost that much. My family loved the current A8L model, but we can wait. If we'll need another one in the meantime, I'll just lease the new A4 or get the latest A6. I myself also work hard and would like to enjoy the fruits of my labor. So, here's to a great car. Drive safely. Mario
    BTW, if you want a busy BBS, try the A6 forum. Bye. M
  • bertram60bertram60 Posts: 113
    I've been on the A6 BBS, and yes there's a lot going on (i also own a '98 A6).

    If I were you and wanted to do something short term, I'd probably do either the S4 or A6 2.7. My 2.8 was very, very, very slow, beautiful, but slow.

    I too am waiting for '03 and the new S8. I bought my A8 from a friend and saved on the lux tax, not quite like buying brand new, but at 12 months old the car was hardly abused. I can't wait for some real info (supposedly a 12cyl model RS8 will be availble too). I love the L, but the short wheelbase handles like a sports car and is bigger than my A6 (although the trunk is actually smaller than the 6.

    Whatever you do, enjoy and share your experiences with others.

    Ciao, Randy
  • gwill1gwill1 Posts: 1
    Given the option of an older (say '97, 50K) A8 4.2 Quattro and a newer (99/2000, 20-30K) A6 2.x Quattro, what would be the best choice?
  • bertram60bertram60 Posts: 113
    Owning both an '98 A6 2.8 and '00 A8 4.2(different engine than in '97) here's my 2cents.

    The A8's ride and handling and acceleration are tremendous. The A6 2.8 is a lot slower, feels as though it's heavier and doesn't have the crispness of the A8. The A8 gives you more interior volume, but a smaller trunk. The A6's styling is more up-to-date, but some people don't like the rear end. The A6 should still have some original service (either 3/36 for '99 or 4/50 for '00) and could probably be a certified-pre-owned car if you are willing to pay for it.

    I would call your local Audi dealer to see if they will certify a car for you (the dealers are wonderfully cooperative) and if the cars are local, see what history they can pull up on them (you will need VIN numbers) also check with a source like carfax.com to see if there have been any major problems with the car (again you'll need VIN numbers). Then, drive them both on the same day of possible. My choice would probably be to get the A6 due to warranty issues and the chance of extended factory warraties being available. I fear that the A8 could be pretty costly to maintain, and if there are problems, the're going to be expensive.

    Good luck and let us know you final decision.
    Randy
  • speter1speter1 Posts: 1
    I am considering the purchase of a 1996 A8 2.8. They seem a good buy in UK, around $16k - $20k for 50,000 milers compared to A6 and BMW.

    I am a bit concerned about the potential running costs though, tyres, electrical and mechanical problems, etc.

    Does anybody have any guidence for me.

    Thanks

    peter
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
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  • I am driving an A6 quattro 2.8 and my lease is going to be terminated by September 2001. I did not have any problems with the car, but I am seriously considering an A8 L. Does anyone have any input on what kind of discount I should expect? I have been following manufacturer rebates but I don't see any thing happening. When I purchased my A6 a factory rebate was in place and I took full advantage of it. Back then, Audi was offering heavy discounts on A8s as well in the order of 8 to 10 Ks. I am waiting patiently but I see nothing happening and it would be very nice to hear from someone with recent experience concerning dealer discounts. If it comes down to no rebate at all, I will review my options and perhaps pursue something else. I think I am spoiled with this factory rebate thing. It is so good that I believe everybody else sould be too!Especially with the way the economy is right now.
  • mariobgoodemariobgoode Posts: 114
    To Bertram60: I just got my copy of Automobile magazine for June, and it has a picture of your new A8, with a few more details. I hope you can wait two more years. As I am considering the new A6, I am personally grateful for your input in the A6 BBS. I am putting in my order for the A6 in July, and move up to the A8L after 3 years, when all the bugs had been worked out. Enjoy. Mario
  • bertram60bertram60 Posts: 113
    Thanks Mario,
    I saw that picture on line a while ago and use it as my backgorund. Thanks for the heads up, I'm sure my Automobile mag is at home. I hope the new A8 ends up looking good in person, hard to tell from the picts.
  • flotronixflotronix Posts: 2
    Hi. I own a '97 4.2 with all the options, cold weather, warm weather, etc. Have had it now for 2 years. Bought it with only 13k on it. Found out after I bought it (from an Audi dealer) that the car had been an Audi training vehicle in CT, I think. They would bug it and then let service techs try to find out the problem. Car had lots of little problems when I got it, but after MUCH conversation and letter writing I was able to get Audi to cover most everything under Audi Assured. I love the car and it is hard to imagine driving anything else after owning this car. Lease is up in Dec. and I will have to decide what to do next. Hate paying the price they want for a new one, that's why i bought used. So, might buy this one out of lease (has 58k miles now) or work a trade on another 1 or 2 year old model. But on to my question. I get lousy radar detector performance in this car. If we put the same detector in my wife's 2000 Honda Odyssey it works fine. Does it have something to do with the special insulated glass? What's the solution for the radar detector? I also noticed in an earlier post that someone had a problem with AM radio reception. I do also. Dealer changed out the radio and it didn't improve. They don't know what to do about it.
  • bertram60bertram60 Posts: 113
    My friend had the same problem in his '98 with any type of transmitter/detector, but I don't seem to in my '00. His solution was to install a Valetine One in the car with the sensors/antenna mounted behind the grill. The glass was the problem, but it seems to have been recitified in the '00 and later models.
  • flotronixflotronix Posts: 2
    Thanks for the info. I read in some Audi literature that they changed the type of windshield glass in 99 or 00, so that must have solved that problem. My windshield got chipped a couple months ago and fortunately I was able to have it fixed without replacing the entire windshield, as the repair shop said that it was very special to the tune of $3400 for replacement!!
  • bertram60bertram60 Posts: 113
    Here in FL windshields are covered under insurance with no deductable, but i bet my carrier will have something to say about that if/when i have to replace mine!
  • I'm looking at a used '99 A8 with only 18k miles on it.
    Asking price is $37k; it's a lease return, very clean.

    Does this sound like a decent deal?
    Are there hard to find bugs that could cost me down the road.

    I figure since it's still under mfg. warranty I should be safe.

    Can someone tell me if all scheduled maintenance is included up to a certain
    time and milege on this car?

    Thanks,
  • lostwageslostwages Posts: 21
    Steverisisty: We are in the same boat! I am also considering a '99 A8 in the $37K range (black car in Seattle by chance???).

    I have never owned an Audi, so I will not be much help to you. I am hoping an A8 veteran will assist both of us regarding this technological wonder of a car. I love the 300hp and quattro system!

    I have not driven the A8. I drove an A6 over the weekend but did not have time to drive an A8. I liked the A6, but my wife likes the look of the A8 better, and I like the idea of a larger car with the bigger engine. My only concerns are maintenance for this complicated machine, and the fact that an all new A8 will be on showroom floors in the spring of 2003. I know that is quite a ways off, but it will kill the resale value of the current body style.

    Please share your test drive experience and what you consider the pros and cons to this car.
  • bertram60bertram60 Posts: 113
    I went from a '98 A6 2.8 to my current '00 A8. The A8 is an amazing car to drive ('00 has a different 310hp engine than the '99). My car is 19 months old and has 37k miles. There have been a few problems, but nothing major (other than annoying rotor warpage). While I can't imagine driving anything else, I do not think that I will keep this car for anything longer than the 4y/50k warranty (it was certified pre-owned w/5y/75k Audi warranty) due to what I know could result in some major maintenance bills. Brake problems (specifically warping rotors) are a common complaint and can be solved by using cross drilled rotors and better pads. I have not done this as Audi is still very happy to pay for repairs. As this has been a high mileage commuter for me, I will probably take the loss and buy the new S8 when it arrives (at least that's my current plan).

    My best friend (and previous owner of my car) has an '01 S500 sport that I had last week (poor soul took delivery of his new 996 Turbo) and can say that while the Audi doesn't have the street recognition of the MB, it is certainly much more enjoyable to drive. My buddy agrees, and wished that he hadn't passed on his '01 S8 and bought the MB.

    If you can have the cars certified by an Audi dealer, can get a hold of the service records and don't plan on owning the car for more than 3-4 years, I would highly recommend the A8. Remember even Audi's CPO warranty is from the date of initial delivery of the car. If you are worried about the costs associated with owning a high end, complicated sport sedan (it is all of these), then don't bother even driving one. It makes the A6 feel like a poorly designed slug, and NONE of the competition can compete. A8's are the best kept secrete around! MHO
  • jtouga1jtouga1 Posts: 8
    All you European car lovers out there, please check into "European Parallel Importing" on the Smart Shopper in the Town Hall.

    I really need you opinons and advice on this subject. Thanks...

    Jon
  • lostwageslostwages Posts: 21
    I am leaning towards buying (or more likely leasing based on one of the above posts re: long term costs) a '99 A8 that I have found on the internet. The car is offered at $36,900 w/ 16,000 miles.

    It is advertised as having all options but for the cell phone. I have searched but can't find a site that will give me detailed info re: standard equipment and what optional equipment was offered on the '99 model. I would like help in finding out what options this car should have. Additionally, any input from owners of the '99 model would be appreciated (pros/cons). The 2000 and 2001 sound great, but my budget is in the '99 range - although the newer 310 hp engine would be nice!
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