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2010 Subaru Outback supply

love2boardlove2board Posts: 2
edited June 6 in Subaru
I ordered a 2010 outback 6 weeks ago, was told it would take 4 weeks and have heard nothing to date. My dealer told me that they haven't received their allotment report from Subaru yet. You mean that Subaru isn't telling their dealerships when they can get the product?

Any similiar problems out there or am I getting hosed?


  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,512
    I don't think, at this point, you are getting hosed.

    Dealers get their monthly allotment reports early in the month, probably within a few days, and that tells them what cars are coming to them during that month. If your order went in six weeks ago, it was likely manufactured already and will be shipped to that dealer in October, but the dealer will not know for sure until they receive their report. Four weeks is on the low end for a factory order; 6-10 weeks is more likely.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I was told 6-8 weeks for my Forester and it took 5, guess I got lucky.

    I think 6-8 weeks is the norm, however.
  • eps105eps105 Posts: 216
    I ordered my Outback 3.6R Limited on 8/24 and it came in on 10/2 -- that's 5-1/2 weeks. My dealer confirmed that because of the massive popularity and tight inventory from the CARS program, many order windows are definitely being pushed out and that 8-12 weeks is now the current order window for the time being.

    But it sounds like you ordered yours at the same time as mine, so I don't know why it isn't on it's way. ...Dunno if there are variations in allotment based on the dealers' volume and maybe your dealer isn't favored.... or your dealer did something sleazy and sold your allotted car to someone at a higher price and then re-ordered your car for a later allotment.

    I don't think you will ever know, but I suggest putting the new car sales manager on the spot by saying you've read on multiple Internet forums that everyone that ordered their Outback in mid-August got them at the end of September or beginning of October! My dealer had my actually VIN# supplied by Subaru around 9/20, so if they can't even tell you your VIN#, I would start raising heck.
  • rkratrkrat Posts: 25
    Elliot, just saw your post on this message board. Please tell me about the LED illumination package. Is it as nice as it looks in the pictures on the Subaru website? I never did contact my dealer to see if I could add it onto my factory order.
  • Got a call this morning that my car was delivered over the weekend. YAY! Thanks for the posts.
  • eps105eps105 Posts: 216
    Elliot, just saw your post on this message board. Please tell me about the LED illumination package. Is it as nice as it looks in the pictures on the Subaru website? I never did contact my dealer to see if I could add it onto my factory order.

    Both the LED puddle lights and the interior illumination package look EXACTLY in real life as they do in the Outback accessories brochure. They don't seem to be enhanced at all.

    Both add a moderate amount of bling to the car, but the interior package has a little more utility in that you can see what's inside the cubby bin as well as make visual contact with items in the cupholder when driving at night.

    Whether it's worth $210+ is a matter of opinion; I rationalized by thinking about the cost spread out over 5 years. If the cost would have also include a glove box light as well, I'd feel like it was better justified, but I'm still glad I got it.

    The puddle lights are relatively cheap ($145 invoice) but the bling factor is best only in near darkness. Garage lights or parking lot lights etc. mostly wash them out.

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,512
    Based on your description, I think the 2010 Forester (Premium and Limited, anyway) come standard with the equivalent of the Outback's interior illumination kit. Like Elliot stated, the lights do a great job of subtly, but effectively, illuminating the interior just enough to be able to easily locate items without fumbling around in darkness. I really like it. I thought it was "gimmicky" on my test drive (which was during the day), but after driving many hours in darkness bringing the car home, I was sold on that feature.

    I did not get the optional puddle light kit.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I like the blue LEDs also.

    One lights the bin in front of the shifter, you can actually make stuff out when it's dark.

    The other is overhead and just puts a very subtle blue hue that reflects on some of the metallic trim. Less function for that one, but it sure looks cool.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,512
    The overhead LED lights up the whole area in the front of the car! I noted on my trip home that my case of Ocean Spray juice bottles in the footwell of the passenger side almost seemed to glow, beckoning me to take just one more sip..... :D

    The light is subtle, for sure (much more so than the one in the bin), but it makes a huge difference in comparison to utter darkness. I was able to look and grab, rather than fumble around until I chanced upon, items I needed (er, wanted).

    Yes, it does make the trim glow a little as well.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    You have good night vision, my friend! :shades:
  • rkratrkrat Posts: 25
    Sounds like I probably should have gotten the interior illumination package. It probably would come in handy on my trips home to NY and to Atlantic City, which I usually do at night - less people on the road.

    Funny, I never noticed that my 1998 van has lights in the front mini-bin and glove compartment until I started looking at the LED option package on the 2010 Outback. It seems to me little utility lights like that should be standard on all vehicles.

    Oh well, still have a few more weeks to go until I get my new car. Can't wait.
  • eps105eps105 Posts: 216
    Whether it's worth $210+ is a matter of opinion; I rationalized by thinking about the cost spread out over 5 years. If the cost would have also include a glove box light as well, I'd feel like it was better justified, but I'm still glad I got it.

    So after seeing the Outback in it's New York debut, Philly auto show, countless test drives, tons of Internet research, and studying the sales brochure -- there was never a mention or evidence of a glove box light.

    So imagine my surprise driving my 1-week old Outback over the weekend at night and complaining to my wife that there's no glove box light, only to open it and have a glove box light!! :surprise: I thought I was hallucinating, and my wife thought I was a goofball for getting so excited!

    Turns out, hiding along the top lip of the box is an orange LED light that only goes on when the headlights are on! So I never noticed during test drives because I expected if there was one it would turn on simply from opening it.

    Subaru failed to even mention this in the brochure specifications.

    I'm pretty sure this is NOT part of the illumination package but rather a standard feature. Can anyone confirm?
  • eps105eps105 Posts: 216
    Sounds like I probably should have gotten the interior illumination package.

    It's not too late -- it's an installable accessory. See the Outback accessory brochure for details.
  • rkratrkrat Posts: 25
    I don't want to pay the extra dealer-installed labor charges. And I'm not sure if they would sell me the package at the dealer invoice price. Plus, I'm not sure what the quality of dealer-installed options as opposed to factory-installed options would be.

    I will wait and see when I get my car to see if I really need the extra illumination inside.

    I have sat in some Outbacks on the dealer lot at night and it seems as if the interior lighting from the dash and heated seat switches in the console will provide enough interior illumination at night.
  • 204meca204meca Posts: 366
    I notice that the 3.6R has larger front & rear brake discs than the 2.5i. Could the larger discs be placed on the 2.5i? Would it require different calipers & pads?

    Does anyone know if the 2.5i springs, struts, and sway bars are the same or different than those on the 3.6R?
  • dcm61dcm61 Posts: 1,465
    I notice that the 3.6R has larger front & rear brake discs than the 2.5i. Could the larger discs be placed on the 2.5i? Would it require different calipers & pads?

    My uneducated guess would be that the swap would, at minimum, require new caliper brackets in addition to the larger rotors.
  • rkratrkrat Posts: 25

    Just took possession of my new 2010 Outback Limited with Nav on Saturday October 31, 2009 - a nice treat for Halloween! :) Didn't know if anyone had responded to your inquiry about the glove compartment light but I noticed I have it and I did not get the LED illumination package so I assume the glove compartment light must be standard on the Limited, if not on all Outback trims.

    I am still extremely tentative about driving it since it is a new car but I am getting used to it. I still have not had the chance to read through all the material to figure out how everything works, but every day I am noticing more and more little features. So far I love it.

    I now understand why some people have commented on the uselessness of the MPG gauge and would have preferred a temperature gauge. I did not realize they meant replacing the MPG gauge on the far left of the dash with an engine temperature gauge. That definitely would have been more helpful.

    The only other things I noticed that I would change so far, that other people have mentioned, is closing the rear hatch. I think I drove home from the dealer without it being closed all the way without realizing it until I pulled into my driveway and saw the "doors open" icon lit up on the dash.

    Plus, I would have added a little indicator light on the AC button. I did finally notice the rear-view camera in my nav screen while backing out of my garage this morning. Pretty cool! I love all my gadgets.

    Question: Are the door locks automatic once you start driving? I don't think they are. If not, that is something Subaru should change also. Can anyone confirm this?

    I will probably post at a later date my entire buying experience and thoughts on the car as I break it in.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,512
    I rode in a friend's Toyota Tacoma a couple weeks ago and the backup camera's screen is on the rear-view mirror: Now THAT is cool!

    Subaru does not have automatic door locks. I am thankful for this, but I think most vehicles with that annoyance, er... feature, do maintain the option to disable it. My Dodge Caravan was this way.
  • rkratrkrat Posts: 25

    Funny you should consider automatic door locks as an annoyance. I consider it a safety feature. Being from NYC originally, and now living in the metro DC area, I feel safer knowing the doors lock automatically as soon as I start driving, especially if driving alone at night and stopped at a light.

    My 1998 Dodge Grand Caravan I just traded in for the Outback had this feature so I was not in the habit of having to remember to lock my doors. I guess I expected all new vehicles to have all of these little features that my van had. I was surprised when I was test driving different vehicles how many new cars did not have some of the little things my van had.

    When I test drove the 2010 Equinox, I was impressed that the doors locked automatically as soon as I put the vehicle in "drive".
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,512
    Well, I can see the point in areas like yours. When it comes to "safety" features such as that, like VDC, etc., I am not against them unless there is no option to disable. Our 1998 vans had the option of disabling, which I did on mine. Oddly, though, it was still active when I purchased it... and it had 170,000 miles on the ticker! It took about three trips after I bought it before I was searching online for the process to disable it.

    Also, if the doors were to unlock automatically when the car was put in "park," it likely would be a non-issue, aside from extra wear and tear on the motors. Then again, I do not prefer automatics..... :D
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I'm only OK with that if it unlocks when you put it back in Park.

    My van does that.

    Otherwise you reach for the door handle...and it won't open. :mad:
  • rkratrkrat Posts: 25
    My van did not automatically unlock when in Park but all I had to do was open the door handle (not the door lock) and the door would open. The Outback does not so I now have to remember to engage the door lock before or during driving and unlock it to get out. :(
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,512
    As an "old-schooler" who is used to locking and unlocking doors with keys, the key fob messes with me. I tend to remember to lock the car using the remote when I walk away from the car, but I put the key in the door when I come back. As soon as I open the door (not using the remote), the alarm sounds and about makes me wet my pants. :blush:

    Darn technology, anyway.

    I am not expecting an answer here, but what is the deal with Subaru offering Outback keys with integrated remotes, but still using separate keys and remotes for the Forester & Impreza lines? That is just silly.
  • I prefer the Outback key with integrated remote (to the separate key and fob), but I'm still getting used to finding the right button in the dark. The unlock button is indented, and so feels different than the other two.

    My favorite key design is the "switchblade" style used by Audi and VW. It just looks like a fob, and then you press a little metal button and the key blade flips out. I suppose this is still not as cool as the keyless or smart-key types, but it's nice to have the key blade folded away when it is in your pocket.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,512
    I completely agree with you on that! I have seen those VW keys and they are really a nice design.

    Of course, I sure appreciated my '08 Outback keys with the integrated fob; I was surprised when my two-years-newer Forester came with separate units! :(
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    My Miata's key is a switch blade. It's much smaller on your key ring.

    Though the Forester's laser cut keys would be MUCH harder to duplicate (for thieves).
  • We ordered our 2010 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited with selected options on OCT 16, 2009. Our dealer called on Nov 12 and said the allotment was released and our car was not on the list. In fact we may not get it until JAN. Our hopes of getting it before DEC 31 to take advantage of the GOV deduction of the sales tax may lead us to say forget it, give us our down payment back. I feel that they have so many stick shifts on the dealers lots, that they are hoping we will back off and take what's available. Subaru increased 2009 production by 45K vehicles earlier this month. They should be able to built us our chosen vehicle. What do you think?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    That's about 10 weeks, they should be able to do it.

    We were lucky - our special-order Forester arrived in 5 weeks.
  • Agreed...I am in the same boat. Ordered my 3.6R with NAV on 9/23 and no word whether it will come in the December allotment or not. I have heard that there is a shortage of navigation units and that is creating a backlog.
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