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Pontiac Grand Am

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  • sarnold1sarnold1 Posts: 1
    I'm looking to buy a first car for my teen. There's a clean '92 Grand Am w/excellent care history, no accidents but high mileage (136,000). Can anyone tell me if these cars are still reliable once the milage gets high?
  • verndvernd Posts: 3
    I purchased my 99 GT1 fully loaded with leather and the chrome wheels and I love it. I average 24.5 mpg in combined driving. I already have 3800 miles on it and it is only 2 1/2 months old. The hood getting chipped is from road debris. On the expressway, rocks fly up and skip across about midhood.
  • angeladenangeladen Posts: 1
    I am considering purchasing a grand am se2 -- but while test driving, I felt that the large headrest blocked my view out the back. The mirrors seemed more than adequate, but I am concerned about blind spots with changing lanes and gauging distance while backing up. everything else about the car was fairly impressive. has any recent (short) buyer experienced visibility problems? any input is much appreciated.
  • melissasmelissas Posts: 1
    Reading all of these is very informative, I have been looking at purchasing a 99 GT1 Sedan, has anyone asked their dealer about the paint chips, everyone is discussing? If so, did they give you a reasonable explanation? For the most part you all really like the cars, I haven't really heard a negative person on here!
  • bogackibogacki Posts: 1
    All Grand Am fans:
    Look forward to the new Grand Am Supercharged/Touring edition of the current Grand Am GT. From what I've read, ASC and Pontiac are close to releasing the car into production. In fact, almost all the mods are production ready. The car is incredible! Watch out Grand Prix GTP owners! Basically the car is the new Grand Am GT with the following additions: a Magnusson-Eaton designed supercharger unit, 18" multi-spoke wheels and tires, modified exhaust system, "true" Ram Air designed hood, BMW M3 style ground effects with modified wing, and Recardo leather seats (front and back). The only mod needed to be done to allow the car to meet standard warranty is a modified transmission. This will either be a modified version of the present tranny used in the all new Grand Am's, or a replacement with the 3800's. Although the head designer of ASC wants to see the car get a 5-speed manual. Wouldn't that be great! The car has been track tested and a 0-60mph time has been confirmed at 5.9! That time was taken with the stock 4spd automatic transmission, and on stock 16" Eagle RSA's! Talk about incredible! And the supercharger is only putting out 5psi of boost! Imagine the performance after a pulley changeout. There is no reason that it can't be pushed to 8 or 9 lbs. My guess is that the car can be brought down to the low 5's (0-60). I'll have to look at the article again and see what the 1/4 mile time was. This car is definitely Pontiac's tuning future. If they indeed go with a stick, watch out Camaros, Firebirds, Mustang Cobras (and maybe even Vettes).
  • szerfasszerfas Posts: 53
    ANGELADEN:
    I have had my GrandAm SE1 for about a month and have noticed what you are talking about. At first it bothered me but at the same time I noticed how big and well placed the side views mirrors are and now the headrests do not bother me so much. I think if you get the upgraded interior(SE2 maybe) the headrests are of the design with the hole through them. That might help you. I still look to the side to change lanes but the side mirrors are about the most useful I have found in any car I have driven.

    Happy motoring.
  • ethbagethbag Posts: 1
    I'm getting ready to buy my first new car and at this point it's the grand am GT sedan. From what I've seen I love the thing and I really haven't heard many negative things about it. I'm looking for a somewhat sporty sedan and this one seems to be the best for the price. Does anyone have any complaints or criticisms about the vehicle? Any great praises?
  • ethbag: I got my Grand Am GT sedan in May. Now I would sing about it but I can't carry a tune in a suitcase.

    The only complaint I have about the car is the rearview mirror creates a large blindspot. Now this might be caused by my height (6'2") or the way I happen to sit in the car. Once I discovered the blind spot and learned to correct my driving style to avoid it I can find no other faults with it.

    I am more than happy with my Grand Am.
  • mantamanta Posts: 4
    Dragon,
    Can I ask you how much you paid for your GT, and what options did you get? I'm in the market for an SE1, but was just wondering. Any help I can get in considering Canadian prices is much needed!

    Thanks!
  • aam1aam1 Posts: 26
    Guys:

    I will be getting a Grand Am SE1 in the next 2-3 weeks. Would appreciate any advice and suggestions so that I can get the best car at the best price.
  • szerfasszerfas Posts: 53
    aam1:
    You should be able to get your car for just a little over invoice without too much trouble and without including any of the rebates available on the car. My SE1 is just over 1 month old. When I got mine there was a factory dealer rebate of $500 and a low finance rate. I was also able to get recent grad and I had GM Card credits. Between all that it was a pretty good deal. One thing that I found annoying was that for the well equipped GrandAm that I got it does not have map lights. Silly on a car with so many other features standard. I would also not pay a lot for the high performance sound system as they call it. The bass is really great but I am not sure it is the clearest sounding stereo that I have heard.

    Enjoy your new wheels. It really is a fun to drive car. The molding on the doors do a really good job of fending off door dings.

    Stephen
  • aam1aam1 Posts: 26
    Stephen:

    Thanks for your advice. Just a couple of points since you have exactly the same car as I will be getting and I am also a recent grad:

    1. Does the "little over invoice' purchase price include the rebates or do they further reduce the final price?

    2. Does the 'standard SE1 sound system" include the CD or is that part of the high performance sound system?

    3. Did you get a V-6 or the standard engine?

    4. Did you get the solid style value package. Is it a good deal or not?

    Thanks for your help
  • aam1aam1 Posts: 26
    Hi Guys:

    Maybe some one can help me with this. I live in NYC and will have to pay 8.25% sales tax if I buy my Grand Am in-state. I was wondering if I can go to NJ, CT, or PA and buy the car there and pay a lower amount of sales tax. A friend of mine told me that I will have to pay the NYS tax if I register the car in NYS no matter where I buy it. Anyone here looked into this and have any information.
  • aam1aam1 Posts: 26
    Hi Stephen:

    Missed one more thing I wanted to ask you, are the invoice and MSRP quoted on the Edmunds site very accurate for the SE1?

    Thanks
  • yusufyusuf Posts: 4
    I am about to buy a '99 Grand AM SE, very basic model, for 3000 down and 430 pm payments....can anyone tell me if i am getting a good deal, also how is this car in reliability, performance and safety. I know it does not have good resle value though, right? How many mile can i put on it before it starts giving major problems
  • yusufyusuf Posts: 4
    Hello,

    One more question....I tried asking the dealer @ the recent grad. bonus and he tried to avoid the issue. How can I get this discount and my GM card rebate? Also, the car they showed me, though new, had for some reason a slight chipping of the paint on the driver side door on the corrugations that the Grand AMs have. Could that be potentially dangerous and could I ask the dealer to fix it or give some more discount?
    (I had posted earlier a msg about the same car in msg#37)
    Yusuf
  • yusufyusuf Posts: 4
    Hello,

    One more question....I tried asking the dealer @ the recent grad. bonus and he tried to avoid the issue. How can I get this discount and my GM card rebate? Also, the car they showed me, though new, had for some reason a slight chipping of the paint on the driver side door on the corrugations that the Grand AMs have. Could that be potentially dangerous and could I ask the dealer to fix it or give some more discount?
    (I had posted earlier a msg about the same car in msg#37)
    Yusuf
  • szerfasszerfas Posts: 53
    Hi aam1:

    1)The rebates further reduced the price. So I got it for $179 over invoice and then from that price we deducted the factory dealer incentive, my recent grad and my gm card discount. I was also able to get the 4.9% financing in addition. Worked pretty well.

    2)The SE1 standard sound system from what I read in a tape player. There are two upgrades to it. You can upgrade to the CD stereo edition of it or you can upgrade to the high performance 6 speaker sound system(which I have). I figure what the dollar difference is but the regular system should be fine. I got this stereo because it was what was available on the car on the lot. My only requirement was that the stereo had CD.

    3)I got the 3400 V6. It runs smoothly and is very powerful. Some friends criticized me for not getting a power moonroof. I was more interested in engine power then a moonroof. The four is also a little buzzy for my tastes but the power is still pretty good.

    4)My car did come with the solid style which included the spoiler, the alloy wheels and CD player. I really wanted the aluminum wheels, and CD player so it was a good deal for me. If you are really interested in saving money you could live without these options. I think this package is also responsible for upgrading to the BFGoodrich touring tires. I have been happy with their performance also.

    5)I assumed the Edmunds MSRP and invoice were correct and I put together a spread sheet before going to the dealer and found a car that matched pretty well the options that I priced out. When we went to deal I did not tell them any of this stuff or show them anything. They came back with the invoice price which matching up with my spread sheet was very close if not the same. The reason I am not eactly sure is my car included the variable assist steering too and they do not have that listed. To answer your question it should be good to use.

    Good luck and enjoy,
    Stephen
  • szerfasszerfas Posts: 53
    yusuf:

    I would have them discount your car if it has some chipping or pick another one. We have a few dealers in our area around here so if my local one did not make me happy I was ready to go somewhere else. The chip I would not cause any safety issues and should not effect preformence, they probably just hit in their own lot.

    If you are recent grad they should be able to take that $400 off right along with the credits from the GM Card. I used them both on mine.

    I can say from the performance of mine with V6 is very good. The car stops, corners and accelerates with ease. I hope the reliablity will be good I have seen and heard of planety on old GrandAm going for long distances. My Buick was very reliable so I am hoping the Pontiac is made with similar quality. The resale value will probably not be great but I plan on keeping mine a while. The safety on the edmunds was suppose to be good. I thought I saw on the government site as 4 start from front 3 from side but I will have to check again.

    Stephen
  • ruskiruski Posts: 1,566
    you do have to pay taxes based on where you park your car.

    I once got a car in CT, registered it in FL, but my primary residence was in Yonkers, NY. I had to pay the Yonkers 8.25% tax.
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