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Pontiac Grand Am

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,091
    But you have to pay for the car and year membership to get the text of the TSB.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Stop by and visit with 0patience and alcan in our own Technical Service Bulletins discussion. They will get you the text of relevant TSBs.
  • Well you probably will have brake rotor problems, maybe some minor fit-n-finish issues, and possibly a intake gasket leak, other than that you shoudl enjoy your car. I have a Galaxy Silver 2003 GT, very nice car. However i have 21,000 miles, the rotors have been replaced twice, the front suspension pops every now and then, and the trim came off my back window. Other than those minor issues I do like this car.
  • Im recieving Abs and Low Trac on my dashboard. I have a 98 Pontiac GrandAm Se with 107,000 miles on it. How do i remove these lights on dashboard?
  • The warning lights indicate a problem with the ABS/ETS systems. Since both lights are on it could be a wheel speed sensor problem. Sensor or wiring to the sensor. The only way to get the lights to go out is to have the car repaired. Find a local service station, dealership, or parts store that can scan for trouble indicator codes and see what the problem may be and what the cost to repair might be.
  • Well this is the first real replacement maintenance that I've had to do to my 2000 Grand Am SE. I've been noticing that my coolant had been slowly leaking out of the resevoir, which was leaking down the engine, collecting dirt and ending up on the ground looking almost like oil. I took it in to the shop and A LOT of $$$ and a day later I had a new intake gasket set and o-rings. Upon doing some research on the web, I've found that both the 3.1L and 3.4L V6 engines that GM puts in these cars (among other models) is prone to this gasket failure.

    Apparently, the gasket material is inferior and not of good quality, causing a failure which results in a coolant leak into, or out of your engine...bottom line is this is not good and I can't believe that GM is recognizing this and not doing anything about it. If you let this leak go long enough it can SERIOUSLY damage your engine.

    So all I can say is take a good look at your engine, or have your intake gaskets inspected and replace them if necessary...oh and be ready to pay because it's expensive! :) The labor alone will run you around 8 hours.
  • I have had my 2003 Grand Am GT 4 dr for 3 1/2 months and it has 3800 miles on it. My low coolant light came on last week quickly and then didn't come back on for a week. When it came on again I looked at the coolant and it was practically gone. The dealer said the intake manifold has to be replaced, it was manufactured poorly they said. Has anyone else had any problems similar to this with a newer car? It seems like a strange problem to me and I question the long-term effects on my car from this.
  • mikey00mikey00 Posts: 462
    The intake gasket problem is well known on 3.1L and 3.4L V6. I keep an eye on my 2000 Alero and hope it holds out. How much did it cost and was it a GM dealer who did the work?
  • burdawgburdawg Posts: 1,522
    I had the intake gaskets replaced on my 99 at about 84K. It was around $1000. It had been seeping for awhile, but finally started to leak to much to manage. The oil pump drive shaft o ring was replaced at the same time along with coolant and oil flushes. In my opinion the oil flush is of dubious benefit since I change the oil at 3K intervals.
    I already knew this was a potential problem and wasn't surprised by it. Actually, the Pontiac has been no better or no worse on the average than any other vehicle I've owned, foreign or domestic.
    All work was done at Westminster Pontiac GMC in Westminster, CA. By the way, that's one of the best dealer service departments I've ever dealt with.
  • mikey00mikey00 Posts: 462
    My Alero has been a wonderful car and if the intake gasket goes, no big deal. I was hoping to get closer to $500 for the job by staying away from the dealer.
  • Mikey00...
    I second what Burdawg said, my situation was exactly like his. I have almost 90k on my 2000 Grand Am and I had my repairs done at my local Midas shop, they have decent prices, are always very friendly and curteous and have a nationwide warranty on all their work. My total cost was $940, which included replacing the intake gaskets, oil pump O-rings, but that also included an oil change and tire rotation. If you can do it for $500 more power to you...the labor rates up here in the Washington DC metro area are around $70/hour.

    I avoided my dealer like the plague because I don't think they do very good work and they are really expensive. And my car is well out of warranty so I don't really have any reason to take it there anymore.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I didn't know you lived in the DC area. If you think the Pontiac dealers are expensive, you should try the VW dealers! Labor there is $82 an hour, I was told by one in College Park...
  • Hello everyone! Just wanted to get any info possible regarding a coolant leak I have developed on my 2000 Pontiac Grand Am GT Sedan. The vehicle has only 34,xxx miles on it but is out of warranty due to purchase date. I have noticed a antifreeze smell and a small amount of antifreeze (Dexcool) beneath the vehicle after it sets a while. The leak appears to be on the drivers side. I popped the hood and noticed a small amount of antifreeze on the side of the head and leaking down to the transaxle and settling there. Could this be a cracked head or bad head gasket? Or could it be leaking from the temperature sensor next to the head at the water neck? Any previous similar cases out there?
    Thank you.
  • burdawgburdawg Posts: 1,522
    Sounds like the intake manifold gasket as has been discussed here numerous times.
  • The problem with heating cooling fan problem is very typical in Grand Am's. The problem typically starts with the fan's 1st & 2nd speed not working but the 3rd-5th working fine. Although it is an annoyance, most people deal with it. My '00 Grand AM Gt had the problem for several months. One day, I started to smell plastic burning, then smoke, then I heard a pop.

    After an investigation, an a conversation with a friend that is an engineer at Denso Automotive - the Japanese company responsible for the system - the fix was rather cheap and simple.

    There is a small circuit boad that is relativly easy to get at that controls the fan. The board was poorly designed and is not thermaly protected. The replacment part is around $23.00 and dealers typically stock them because the problem is common.

    To get at the board, remove the kick pannel by the passenger RH seay. Upon removing, you can look under the dash and see the fan motor. Toward the drive side of the fan, you will see a wire harness facing up going into the board. remove the harness. To remove the board, simply unfasten the bolt (its a little tricky to turn without a very small cresent wrench cause it's hard to get a socket up there) and the small board will drop down. You will probably be able see the burnt part that is shorted. The replacement part from the dealer will have a black thermo coating and will be protected for this problem.

    I have fixed this problem in the Grand Am's of 3 friends and co-workers including a '99 GT, '00 GT, and a '01 GT
  • I have a 2000 grand am gt.....i had the problem of the low coolant light and then checking my coolant and having it be totally gone. I had my water pump replaced and it had been fine since.
  • goblues1...

    It sounds like you might have the same problem that I had, your intake gasket might need to be replaced. I would take it to your local shop and have them check it out, they can tell you whether or not it has failed. I just had mine replaced and it's not cheap, the majority of the cost is for the labor since they have to take part of the engine apart.

    We have GM to thank for this wonderful problem! :(
  • Hey guys! I was wondering what everyone thinks about the 03 Grand Am SE1 with the V6 engine. I am 17 shopping for my SECOND car. I did have a 97 Malibu with the 3.1 V6 and that was a heap. I already know that the 3.4 V6's in the G.A.'s are prone to the same intake manifold gasket problems as in my Malibu. I figure that if the car is awesome EXCEPT for that problem, I'll be happy. I was getting pretty tired, however, of paying $200-$500 per month to keep my Malibu running well. I can't handle the stress with that and if this car is high maintenance, let me know now. Anyway, the vehicle that I am looking at is a 2003 G.A. SE1 V6 with about 28.5K miles on it. It has power windows, locks, mirrors, A/T, tilt, A/C, alloys, and a spoiler. It is light driftwood metallic (not the color choice of any normal 17 year old, but I think it looks kinda cool on the G.A.'s). I can pick it up for $10,988, but I'm sure if I tell them $10.5K OTD on the spot, they won't put up too much of a fight.

    Anyway, please let me know what you think. Thanks a lot!

    Jeremy
  • I went to look at the 03 G.A. - I wasn't THAT impressed. I think the stereos that GM is putting into the G.A.'s and 03 Malibu's are disgusting and WAY to plain. Also, I wasn't a fan of the interior patterns. It did, however, have decent power and good brakes. It didn't come with a remote keyless entry system which I was hoping for. I asked (since it was a Pontiac dealer) if they could throw one in for free and his reply was, "absolutely not". What the?? It's called dealing pal!

    On the bright side I saw a nice 02 Oldsmobile Alero. It had a few more things than the 03 G.A. (traction control, for one). It was a bit less than the Pontiac and had about 4K miles less on it as well. I'm going back Friday to do some dealing. We'll see what happens.

    Jeremy
  • My 95 Achieva (same 3.1L engine as the Grand Am) has been slurping coolant for years. I add about 2 cups/wk to the plastic reservoir, although I could probably add even more. My reservoir is NEVER full. I really have no idea where it's going. I don't smell it, there are no puddles, perhaps it's burning off. I replaced the heater core and I thought that would solve it but no chance.........the thing is, it's livable. I'm not dumping $1k into a car from a now-defunct GM division that's barely worth $2k itself (Edmunds TMV). Cars can survive with leaky intake gaskets for years. But if I had a 2000 GA with the same prob, I'd be furious........the most tragic thing is that the 3.1L mill is a wonderful engine otherwise. Great power and economy and flawless shifts. Never leaked a drop of oil. GM, it seems, can never get the whole package right.
  • I have a cd stereo in my 2001 with all the toys on it. Sometimes if Im listening to the radio, the cd will automatically come on or vice versa and all my preset stations will erase. Has anyone had a similar problem?
  • moeharrimoeharri Posts: 108
    Funny you should mention your stereo problems. I have a 2001gt with the single cd stereo and today I had my presets erase for FM2. I also came out of work one day to have all presets erased, for no apparent reason. It was annoying, but much less so than trying to deal with my local dealer (out of warranty anyway). If you find out the cause, let me know :-)
  • theo2709theo2709 Posts: 476
    Do any Pontiac owners here get the Pontiac Performance newsletter? In the Fall 2003 issue there is a teaser photo of the G6.
  • i bought the car used about a month ago, and it was running fine for about 2 or 3 weeks. then we got a huge snow storm and right before the storm started, i tried to start my car but it wouldnt start. the car would crank but it wouldnt turn over. i tried it a few times and it still wouldnt work. so i read the manuel and tried their suggestions (pushing the gas pedal for certain lengths of time) but that didnt work. i decided to try to get it towed to a mechanic, but when the guy came, he tried to start the car and succeeded on his first try. after that i drove it around for a little bit without any trouble. then i turned off the car and let it sit for about 5 minutes and started it up again without any troubles. the next morning i tried to start it again and once again it wouldnt start. ever since the guy came and got it started i havent been able to start it myself. i think it may have to do with my remote keyless entry system, but im not sure. its a V6 engine,automatic transmission,only about 43k miles, and was never in any kind of accident. if someone could please help me it would be greatly appreciated. you can email me at: sandman4028@comcast.net
          ~thank you very much
  • burdawgburdawg Posts: 1,522
    Sounds like a battery problem to me. One thing though - when you try to start the car does the security indicator light come on and stay on?
  • Hello:

    Does anyone know of a manual method to pull the diagnostic codes from a 1998 Grand Am (not using a diagnostic tool)? For example, for my Durango, you click the ignition from 'off' to 'on' 3 times and the code will read in the odometer. Is a similar method possible for the Grand Am? Thanks in advance.
  • its not the battery, because it is brand new. but, yes, the security light does come on and stay on....i dont know what that means tho
  • burdawgburdawg Posts: 1,522
    If the security indicator is coming on and staying on when you try to start the car (when the ignition is off), then the passlock system is being activated when you try to start the car. It thinks that someone is trying to steal the car, most likely because the sensor in the ignition switch has gone bad or is intermittent. The owners manual goes into some detail about this. If you wait for 10 - 11 minutes or so it will reset and then you can try to start it again.
    This happened on my 99 some time ago, and I had it repaired by changing the ignition switch.
  • I have a 96 Grand AM, with 83k miles on it. For sometime now, I hear a strang thuddy sound after it goes over a speed bump, after the back wheel goes over the bump. It doesn't always happen, but it puzzles me.
      Then suddenly last week, while I was on the freeway, suddenly I heard a strange sound from the car, just like the sound when any car goes over a bumpy road, except I was driving on a smooth road. I immediately took the exit and drove on the surface streets. I am beginning to see this problem more often now, and sometimes, the steering wheel also shakes. Do I have a faulty engine mount? Please help...
  • I have a 01 Grand Am GT and lately I am hearing a rubbing noise coming from the tires. Took my car to a trusted repair tech thinking my brakes needed replacing and was told it was the calibers that were bone dry. The noise stopped for awhile but came back. So I took the car into the dealer I bought the car from new and the service manager said it is a problem with the tires and that the grand am is known for this problem and said that they would seal the wheels. This rubbing sound worked for a few days and now they are making the sound again. Now my warranty just expired and I have seen on some forums that by replacing the wheels, the sound is eliminated. Has anyone owning a Grand Am come across this problem and if so can you let me know how it was solved. Thanks for your help. Regina
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