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  • chasmalachasmala Posts: 14
    Thank you for the kind advice. I would probably get the full blown SL2 less leather seats so looking at the LS makes a lot of sense. I like the look of the SL better than the LS but I am sure that is not what to base my decision. I guess I'm a purist and think the SL is the REAL Saturn. But I do appreciate your input. Thanks again.
  • At the end of July I posted a message about buying a used 93 SL1. I got some good advice , so I am hoping to get more. Well, soon after I got my car, I had 4 new tires (55,000 treadlife) put on, actually Cooper Lifeliner Classics. Then I decided to have it aligned. Even after having it aligned and rotated the (new) tires, the car still floats to left mercifully. They say it is aligned according to there machine and I should not wear the tires, but I am worried about the float thing. Also, the steering is not tight, it is very loose. It seems to "oversteer" when you turn corners. Since I only know the cars this way, should the steering be tight and agile on these cars. Also, the previous owner had one motor mount replaced a year ago and new brakes with new rotors. My mechanic (a GM dealer) said he inspected everything closely (he is reliable). The closet Saturn dealer is 2 hours away. Can anyone give me a little help here? thanks
  • ken1776ken1776 Posts: 41
    My wife's car floats when the tire pressure is incorrect. Might check that for starters. Also, I'm not a big fan of Cooper tires, but they shouldn't make the car pull. As for the steering problem? No clue! This is actually one feature I like about our Saturn, good tight steering. I suggest you spend the time and see the dealer.
  • Hello Saturn fans,
    I'm stuck between purchasing two saturns.
    one is a '94 SL 2 with auto and ac and has 112k miles. This one is going for about $5,000

    The other is a '95 SC 2 with 35,000 miles. This also has auto and ac but is around $8,300.

    I would prefer not to spend the extra 3,300 but am concerned that my Saturn will die very quickly with those miles on it. Which one would you get? Thanks!
  • norbert444norbert444 Posts: 195
    Re fw alignment: I also suggest you get an "alternate opinion" on the correctness of the alignment from another place.

    I had to have the alignment done during my first year ownership of 95 SL2. It was done at the dealership. The mechanic could not get the alignment while he was just using the threads on the alignment linkage. He had to enlarge the mounting hole on the strut to finally get it right.

    And yes, the steering must not be loose, it could be dangerous if it's not made tight soon.
  • I agree with Norbert444 that you might want to try a different alignment shop. As far as the loose steering, it could be the rack and pinion unit, or any one of or all four of the tie rod ends. The inner two are mounted to the rack and are inside the flexible boot that is on each end of the rack to keep out dirt and water. If any one of them comes apart, you'll have little or no control of the steering. Get it into another shop real soon.
  • I realize that I am probably in the wrong forum, but is there anyone out there that has a 2001 SC2? I will be in the market for a new car since my lease on my 98 Malibu is up shortly. My wife loves the look of the SC and I just wanted to hear some overall comments. WE are currently looking at other possibilities as well such as Toyota Echo, Daewoo Nubira, Hyundai Tiburon. (I know it sounds like I am crossing the boarder on different classes of vehicles but we are trying to figure out if we want sporty or not. We don't want the SL simply because a family member owns one and we want to be different!)
  • T Soden
    If your looking for sporty, IMO , The Saturn 3 door coupe blows away anything around 15k as far as style goes. However, the 3 door coupe rides lower to the ground then the SL 4 doors, providing for countless scrapes on the bottom front bumper. Also, insurance will be significantly more compared to a SL2 4 door with the same engine and equiptment.

    The choice is up to you, if your marginal benifit (what your gaining) is greater then your marginal cost(what your giving up) then a 3 door coupe is the way to go. Good luck.

    Mikeknight

    I would try to get the price down a bit on the 94 SL2 to around 4500.00. For some reason, the SL2 4 door model's are rated more reliable then the SC's. A friend of mine has a 94 SL2 in tan with around 150k on the original engine, trans. Don't see anyreason why this SL2 wouldn't go the same distance. Good luck.
  • I recently purchased a 98 Saturn SL2 and I have a very interesting question. On the top of the dashboard there is a square indentation that has 2 holes covered up. What is this meant to be used for? I thought maybe a CD player or a fuzz buster but I am just curious. Any ideas anyone?
  • I thought it was a sunglass holder or something, However I put a hushpuppy and a disney character their to liven things up a bit : ) Who knows, didn't see the holes before, we'll have to look into that.
  • I have a '95 SL2 with the same covered holes (covers are two squares with less than an inch side).

    The 2 little squares cover one screw each. These screws hold the whole top of the dashboard.
  • My 1994 SL Saturn has been overheating and both sensors for the fan have been replaced several times. Yet the problem continues. It all started when the alternator went bad a year ago and a non-saturn garage had to put in a new alternator and I had to take it to Saturn to get the sensor. This week, in addition to overheating again (the indicator was 1/2 way in the red zone), I couldn't get it in any gear except reverse. After I cut off the engine and started it up again, the gears were fine. Saturn could not replicate the problem. The car has 89,000 miles (about 12,000 of those are miles incurred while towing) and we bought the car new. Saturn just put in another new fan sensor and were gracious not to charge me this time. Has anyone else experienced these kinds of problems?
  • afk_xafk_x Posts: 393
    I would suggest you go over to Saturnfans.com

    The people there know everything about Saturns and can probably help you
  • Some other things to do: replace the thermostat, once you overheat the engine the thermostats usually don't work properly. Hopefully the garage checked for a partially plugged radiator by feeling it and finding cool spots which means the coolant isn't flowing through that part of the radiator thus engine runs hotter.
  • My mother has 1999 Saturn with 9,000 miles on it and for a few months the brakes have been squealing. I brought it back to the dealer and they tell me there is nothing wrong and then the squeal goes away for a few days and then it's back. When she turned the car around to leave my house the other day I heard what she was talking about. The brakes made a tremendous squeal again! I am bringing it back to to be looked at by the dealer but I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem and what was the cause. They say it's safe to drive but who wants a car with this kind of noise? It doesn't get any highway milage so they are telling me that's what is causing rust to build up on the brakes. Something doesn't sound right to me. Any thoughts?
  • Squealing brakes.
    Yeah, squealing is normally caused by a piece of dirt attached onto - or around - the brake pads. If "rust" builds up on the pads, it is the same thing. "Rust" can be caused by not driving the car much.
  • I have a 98 Saturn, and my brakes always squeal in the mornings and after rain. After I apply the brakes a few times it goes away. This is normal in general , and on Saturns.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    I don't think squeals from brakes are normal per say. More cars seem to have this problem since the change over to non-asbestos pads, however, I wouldn't consider it normal. My 2000 Hyundai Accent has 6000 miles and the brakes have never squealed once, not even after 8" of rain in one day and than sitting over night to rust. All it does is make a gritty rubbing sound for the first couple times I apply the brakes until the rust has worn off. My VW Rabbit performance brake pads have only squealed when missing an anti-rattle clip and they have over 50K and 4 years on them. I think the squealing noise comes more from the caliper than the actual brake pads. If the caliper is just slightly loose or too flexible, it will allow the pads to move in their housing and thus cause the squealing. From my experiences, I would have to say that I would not consider squealing brakes to be normal and would have the dealer fix it right.
  • My brakes did not squeal at 6k either, give it time and who knows what will happen. Rattles may pop up in a few years that you never thought possible. Thats one of the reasons I get a new car every 3 years to avoid annoying things + I like having a new car as often as possible. Thinking Corolla for my next car, or an L Series.
  • According to an article from the detroit news, Saturn has the highest owner loyalty rate in the industry, 1 in 3 Saturn buyers return to buy another one. A new SUV offers great hope for the company and sales are up 21 % this year.

    See the article at

    http://www.detnews.com/2000/autos/0010/06/b01-130505.htm
  • dona18dona18 Posts: 1
    I had a problem with the overheating. Every time I would stop in the traffic where my car would idle for a long time it would overheat. Even in the winter time I was forced to turn my air conditioner on so that the fan would be and it would cool it down. I took my car to the mechanic and it turned out to be my sensor. It didn't read the right temperature so the computer didn't turn the cooling fan on. It's been a year since I replaced my sensor and my car works fine without overheating. I hope this helps anyone.
  • afk_xafk_x Posts: 393
    Ranked #2 by JD powers for customer satisfaction.

    Overall satisfaction ranked by consumer reports - Saturn #1
  • I am going to buy that new Saturn SUV when it comes out. I think Saturn is one of the best automakers in the world.
  • I hope you had or let the mechanic replace the thermostat in your Saturn when he rplaced the coolant temperature sensor. It has been my experience that once the engine overheats that the thermostat doesn't work properly, either the engine runs hotter or runs cooler and both affect gas mileage.
  • Saturn is playing games with you. There is a documented problem with the engine head on the Saturn SL1/SW1 sedans with base engine. A defect/crack in the head allows oil, and or exhaust to enter the cooling system, resulting in the problems that you are describing. Engine warranty for this problem was extended to 100K miles. Check out www.NHTSA.gov web site for additional info on this problem and others, such as defective seat back recliners that Saturn was charging customers to replace. National Highway Transportation Safety Administration Web site. Saturn should have sent you notification of this problem, if you are the original owner and kept your mailing address current. Good Luck!
  • teoteo Posts: 2,508
    I saw the new Saturn SUV at the Miami International Autoshow last month.....sweeeet!

    Have any info on the technical specs??
  • I suggest you visit www.saturnfans.com
    They have a good deal of info on the new Saturn SUV. I know it will have a continuously variable transmission like the one used in the Honda Civic HX, available 4 wheel drive, the base engine is the 4 banger used in the L Series, around 135 horses, 145ft lbs of tg.
    Should start around 17 to 18k. I believe it will also share the V6 with the L series, which was taken from the Saab 9-5 and Caddy Catera.
  • I drove a Saturn for the first time today. It was a 2001 5 speed SL2 model. Although it performed adaquately, I noticed that to shift into all gears, the "feel" of it was not smooth, maybe "notchy" if that is a word? Do any of you that drive manual Saturns notice that it is not a smooth shifting trans? Your opinions will be appreciated.
  • afk_xafk_x Posts: 393
    The shifter is a bit notchy at first. In about 2000-3000 miles it get broken in and actually has a very nice feel to it.

    For the smoothest shifter I have ever driven though try out the L series stick. Its pulled from the Saab 9-5. Wow thats nice.
  • So may i assume you own a Saturn SL2? Are you happy with it? Would you buy it again? I am considering buying it although I can get much more equipment for the same price( since saturn won't haggle) with a sentra or a bargained down civic.
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