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Buick LeSabre

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  • joe3891joe3891 Posts: 759
    plugs have not been a good replacement for AC Platinum, but I guess you can always go back to AC.The new ignition systems need a specific resistance in the secondary To operate properly.
  • Eureka ! Finally someone with the same problem that I have with my 2003 Limited LeSabre. Three visits to the dealer has not solved the problem.
    Battery under the left rear seat. They haven't checked that one out as yet.
    The problem - - - intermittent noise behind the driver when making left or right turns.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,083
    Can you describe the noise?
  • My seat belts rattle somewhat if they are left in unusual positions. Also, you pull straight up on the rear seat cushion to get at the battery. I think it is a good design.
  • When bringing car home from dealer i noticed vibration in steering wheel and seat starting at 64mph and thru 70mph. Most noticeable at 68mph. Took back to dealer. Service manager rode with me (I had him drive) and he noticed vibration also. He said he would call Buick engineers re solution. I came to this site,copied numerous posts on this issue. I met with him the next day. He had just learned of the Hunter road force balance and Michelin Symmetry tires. Car came with Michelin Symmetry tires. Anyway,after the road force balance (final numbers 6,8,11,12)the car is smooth as glass. Tested on new asphalt pavement. Road force balance is apparently the way to go. This site was extremely helpful to me and the service manager found a solution he was unaware of previously.
  • fredvhfredvh Posts: 853
    I have heard about a number of vibration problems with the LeSabre's front tires. Do you have the 15" or 16" tires?
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,083
    If your dealer had just learned of the Hunter 9700 balancer necessity for good wheel balancing these days, you need a different dealer. For years The Aurora (deceased), Park Avenue, Cadillacs, and LeSabres have all had a sensitivity to tires that don't roll round due to different crush at different parts of the sidewalls . Your dealership should have caught the problem during their test drive for predelivery. Obviously they didn't do one!!!!

    My service manager troubleshot my 2003 in 2002 December... Rotated one tire on wheel, and rebalanced. Got numbers like yours with one wheel at 12, others lower. Improved greatly. I bought the car BECAUSE it had Michelins. Other tire brands have worse problems.

    The low mass of A-arms and other parts the move with the tires has allowed them to react more to slight upward forces due to out-of-round or out-of-balance assemblies. Those parts underneat at aluminum alloys now. Take a look underneath. They are lightweight. Most tire makes have not kept pace with need for better tires; they are doing what they did in trying to have to retool for radial tire building in the 70s.

    Also I'm finding the longer my tires have run, less stiffness uneveness there is in the one pair that is 12 and 9 on the scale. I have almost 18000 on them. I assume they break in and flex easier than when new.

    My wheels are 16 inch. I don't know if anyone has complained with 15 in wheels. Those had Generals which I found on previous two LeSabres were extra soft and smooth, rolled easily for good gas economy and tended to go out-of-round as they aged due to poor belt construction. I believe a Firestone tire was used on some touring models with 16 in wheels, at least in 2002/early 2003.
  • idntnvuidntnvu Posts: 251
    My parent's got their '00 LeSabre Limited a month ago yesterday, and it has had a vibration "out of balance" feeling since they got it. The dealer (a local used car dealer, and long time acquaintance of my father) said because the car had been sitting for a while it may be that the hard compound tires (Mastercrafts) just have flat spots on them from sitting, and after running them a while it may even out. We took it on a trip after they'd had it a couple of weeks, and it still shimmied a little around 65-70. As far as I know, it still does it. They balanced the tires on a regular machine after we'd gotten it, and according to it, the tires were balanced. I have no idea if anyone close to this area has a Hunter balancer. I may have to check around.
    On another note, the window motor was also replaced last week, and now works like a charm.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,083
    http://128.242.141.111/pub/search/FindGSP9700.cfm

    I'd recommend going to one of the locations I found using the search site above. There are none in Hillsville, but there's Cehvy dealer in Mt. Airy that has one. I suspect your problem may be out of roundness in the tires. I have had problems with tires in the past that weren't a name brand (Dayton) and have always just bought Michelins for decades to replace new car tires when they wore down 70-80% just to get round tires so I could enjoy driving.

    I'd recommend a GM dealer if you really want someone who has experience with working out problems. One of the tire stores listed may have a knowledgeable guy who hasn't just read the book.

    I was surprised to see Mt. Airy. Isn't that a town from the Andy Griffith shows? Pleasant name.

    I'm critical or many standard tires because I had Generals on my 93 Lesabre and all they did was get worse as they wore to 30K. Later my service manager at the Buick dealer said there had been many problems with them just going out of round as the belts aged. I replaced them with Michelin XH4s at 30K and 35K and went happily to 135K when two of those had to b e replaced. I bought Dayton brand (Firestone-bridgestone owned brand). And had problems until my wife made me trade the car.

    Sometimes a good set of quality tires can just fix it all. I can't afford to buy cheap -- it's too expensive replacing and fixing the problems, short wear, out-of-round. I buy round ones to begin with.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Mount Airy, NC, is where Andy Griffith grew up. They have a great "Mayberry" tourism industry - link - and it is a lovely little town.

    I had occasion to pass through there once several years ago. I didn't do any of the "Mayberry" things but I did stop at the famous Snappy Lunch for one of their signature pork chop sandwiches. Anyone who has that opportunity shoud not pass it up. The autographed photos on the wall and the age of the restaurant are as attractive as the food. It is a legitimate step back in time - nothing pretentious about it. It was a wonderful experience. :-)
  • One of mine went out and caused a misfire code. Onstar captured the code and said it was ok to drive another 4-5 miles to the dealer. They put another set of wires on cleared the code and sent me on the way. Gotta love onstar. They even called the dealer for me.
    I have never had a GM spark plug wire go bad. Seems most people who post on specialty forums like OEM GM wires. Needless to say, I replaced them on my other 7 year old GM car the next day.
  • I am not sure this is the correct place to post this or not. My father in law and wife were driving along the other day when the LeSabre began shaking and making a lot of noise. They stopped at there favorite gas station and checked things out. Nothing! Long story short the tranny is toast $1800.00 repair bill. We took it to two different dealerships and they both said the same thing. The car is just over 3 years old and has 23,000 miles on the clock. Just a heads up if you hear any growling while in park and on a slight incline like we do take it to the shop. Just a heads up.
  • idntnvuidntnvu Posts: 251
    Where are you from Pat? Yes, Mt. Airy is about 30 minutes from me. I used to work down there for a video production company. I was working there when a section of US 52 was dedicated to Andy Griffith, an of course named "Andy Griffith Parkway." Andy came back this year for the annual Mayberry Days celebration, but I haven't heard much about that.
    The attractions in downtown Mt. Airy are just what you mentioned, the Snappy Lunch, Floyd's Barber shop, The Andy Griffith Playhouse, Wally's Service Station which is home to "Squad Car Tours," a new attraction just started this year that showcases 2 restored Mayberry squad cars, both driven by genuine Mayberry "Deputies," and they take you on a tour of the town. Also, there is Andy's old homeplace, which is now a bed and breakfast. I filmed a wedding there of a couple from Florida. To the South of Mt. Airy, about 15-20 minutes down the road, is Pilot Mountain, or as Andy used to call it, "Mount Pilot." Theres a lot to see, and if you're an Andy fan, you won't be sorry!
    And in the event you make it that far, come on up 52 to Hillsville, which is home of the Carroll County Courthouse, the infamous location of the 1912 Allen Shootout. The "J. Sidna Allen Home" is on your way to Hillsville, in located right on 52 in Fancy Gap.
    Now that I've plugged the area, I will reply to your comment.
    Twin Co. Tire is in Galax, which is the closest. May try them, because we've dealt with them before, but never with Collins or Patterson. I'd trust any of them though. They all have good reputations in our area. Thanks again for the link! I really appreciate that!
  • idntnvuidntnvu Posts: 251
    Well, I was just reminded that when we did use Twin Co. Tire, every time we had the tires rotated (free lifetime balance and rotating) we had to take it back several times to get the balancing right on my mom's '93 Bonneville. I'd forgotten about that. A different group of people own it now, and that was several years ago, but my dad said he'd probably take it to Patterson Toyota. It's listed as a Toyota dealership, but they have Cadillac, Buick, Pontiac, GMC and Toyota all on the same lot. Since they handle Buicks, he said he'd be most comfortable taking it there. I'll let ya'll know if/when we get it done. Thanks again!
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    I live in Norfolk - I'm not familiar with Hillsville specifically, but I do know that's a great area in which to live. :)
  • Total messages say 1022, however I don't see message 1022. The last message showing is 1021. Please correct the situation.

    Thanks
    Jim
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    If a message is deleted, the number of that message is gone also ... it would seem that message #1022 was deleted. The poster might have done it, or it may have been administratively removed. In any case, there is nothing that needs to be corrected.

    :)
  • whzrdwhzrd Posts: 39
    just bought a 2000 lesabre with 87K miles.

    3 weeks later service engine soon light has appeared this AM.

    It is solid and I intend to take it to a loc mechanic or is the dealer the way to go though more expensive?

    I though I read it may be 02 sensor related...any ideas or is it too many variables to say what it is w/o a diagnostic check?
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,083
    check your gas cap. Take it off. Look at the rubber seal to be sure it's not cracked causing an air leak. If it seems hard, rub some vaseline on it.

    Then drive the car. The pollution system does a check when the car is restarted "warm" but not hot. It does a vacuum draw and then measures how fast it decays ( I believe I remember this right from my 98 service manual ). If there is no leak the light goes off.

    If the cause is another problem than gas cap, it may require more work to track down. I had a hose come off of the cannister where the fumes are drawn through to catch the gas vapors in the charcoal. The box was hard to see under something else in the engine compartment.
  • whzrdwhzrd Posts: 39
    good thought!

    I remember when filling gas,the gas cap and filler tube looked rusted, maybe? I'll check it out when I clear out of work.

    thanks
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,083
    I had one and called my service manager at the dealer and their first comment was " is it flashing or solid"? Their second comment since it was a steady light is did I recently fill up and did I check the gas cap. I checked but it didn't help. Turned out the hose had rotted off at the canister at the end.

    But later had a check engine light come on. Checked gas cap. Loose. But if you know that the system does not do a check every time it's started, you won't panic if the light doesn't go off.

    The ideal is drive about two miles, stop at Speedway gas station for coffee, get back in and restart. The temp gauge is up about 2/3 of the way. Then when I restart in about 1 minute the light went off!

    Good luck.
  • whzrdwhzrd Posts: 39
    tried reseating the cap yesterday and the light was on this am. I 'll try the drive stop and drive idea and post again.
  • cha41icha41i Posts: 3
    94 Lasebre Limited with automatic door lock. All door are become lock when operate to lock it by remote control. But when I un-lock by remote, all door are un-lock BUT front passenger side door does not un-lock. However, it can be un-lock with manual.
    What wrong with it?
    Thank
    Charle Jong
  • whzrdwhzrd Posts: 39
    tried to stop while car was warm and started again no change.

    I have some pretty good rust around the gas cap filler tube> I was thinking of sanding it down or wire brushing.
    Do you think the rust in the tank will cause any problem or maybe just stuff a rag in there before and vacuum when done.

    I also noticed a lot of dust/rust coming off the cap and around the rubber gasket can I replace the cap or the gasket?
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,083
    I would just use a cloth with motor oil on it to catch the rust and rub to take it off.
    Is it rust or just scudacrud that has formed there?

    Is the rust in the area where the rubber seal of the cap meets the filler neck?

    Is the rubber seal on the cap worn flat on the contact side? Or when you push the cap on do you feel slight resistance as the seal meets the filler tube?
  • whzrdwhzrd Posts: 39
    I think it looks like rust on the filler neck.

    It is right on the neck lip and there is rust on the filler cap rubber gasket but just contact from the the filler tube.

    The cap still has spring to it but when I do depress and release the gasket fine dust(rust?)comes either off it or from the air holes in the cap itself.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,083
    I think I've seen the reddish material. /Are you sure it's not dust with some contaminant in it from the gasoline spash or vapors?

    Anybody know what this stuff is?
  • idntnvuidntnvu Posts: 251
    Had this same problem with '93 Bonneville. Most GM vehicles, especially the Bonneville, LeSabre, and Olds 88 used the same parts, and I'm sure there were more. You'll more than likely just have to get used to leaning over to your right and unlocking the door with your fingers, or using the key in the door. My mom is short, so she would always give the passenger the keys so they could unlock the doors and she wouldn't have to lean over the console.
    Other problems you will probably have, if you don't already are malfunctioning power windows, (won't go down, or heaven forbid, won't go up), power antenna won't work, and many many more malfunctioning electronics, not to mention replacing your alternator every 40k miles, since the LeSabre uses the same engine as the Pontiac.
    Good Luck!
  • From research of the web infor. It has an possibility of faulty "door solinoil" ? Need to be replaced. Any ideal, what and where it is?
    Thank
  • stan13stan13 Posts: 14
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