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  • houdini1houdini1 Kansas City areaPosts: 5,769
    Sounds like you have a beef with your socialist government!! Do they tax Japanese cars more heavily than German cars? What would an S class cost?

    2013 LX 570 2010 LS 460

  • houdini1houdini1 Kansas City areaPosts: 5,769
    I saw this rather interesting article a few days ago about what type of people buy certain cars, etc.

    The article said that the majority of people who buy expenseive SUV's never take them off road, etc. I would certainly agree with this.

    It went on to say that the majority of people who buy expensive performance cars do not have the skill to drive them the way they were meant to be driven. Instead the cars sit in the garage and depreciate when they are not in bumper to bumper traffic commuting to and from work or picking up a carton of milk at the local grocery store. They like the idea of being a serious performance driver rather than actually being one. All for their self image.

    It was all in fun and quite humorous but it really hit the nail on the head about these so called "drugstore carboys". Anybody know anyone like that? ;)

    2013 LX 570 2010 LS 460

  • Dewey, I know this is a lot of money to put in a car in spite the fact that I make my living earning USD(200K + annually) while living in Canada, but do you know what the starting MSRP for the LS430 was? How about the starting MSRP for your wife's 5x Touring, isn't it just shy of 80k? In any case, it is a bargain relative to competing candidates...
    I will not buy any car in this price range of CDN 80K plus in Canada, since you can save a lot of loonies importing one from the USA. In the case of the LS460, I would probably save about 10-15K. The only catch is you probably have to do cash purchase if you don't exist there financially i.e. have established financial records with a US financial institution.
  • houdini1houdini1 Kansas City areaPosts: 5,769
    Someone here recently asked if I would be buying a LS 460 any time soon. The answer is no. My next HELC will be a 2 or 3 year old LS 430 that someone else has taken the depreciation hit on. That is why I like Lexus. Their cars are still like new after 30 or 40K and quite reasonable.

    I would never waste my kids inheritance on a "new" car". The minute you take your first drive it is then a "used car". Nope, give me a 2 or 3 year old LS and I am happy.

    I never lease because I don't like the idea of driving someone else's car and I always pay cash.

    2013 LX 570 2010 LS 460

  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    "Trash" as defined by you is anything negative Mr. Shoemaker found about the LS460? Every critical point he made has already been corroborated elsewhere. I can see you objecting to his aggressive writing style, but he does raise valid points.

    If you do get to drive one soon, please post your findings.
  • deweydewey Posts: 5,243
    Sounds like you have a beef with your socialist government!! Do they tax Japanese cars more heavily than German cars? What would an S class cost?

    MB S Class base MSRP 120K Cdn $ (105K US$)

    Canadians pay 14 percent in sales taxes . Do I have a beef against our socialist government? Our current Government is conservative and unlike the BIG SPENDING/BIG GOVERNMENT Bush Republicans our Canadian covervatives promotes the idea of small government and are in the process of cutting our sales, income and capital taxes. The word socialist is a bit of a strong word in this case.

    gs2001,

    I got a good deal on my wife's BMW touring. Unfortunately with taxes, pdi and all the rest it ended up being close to $80k :cry:
  • deweydewey Posts: 5,243
    Heard from Automotive News that Acura will introduce a V8 for a future HELC.

    Now how about that RWD platforms?
  • deweydewey Posts: 5,243
    This powerhouse of luxury, quality and technology demands respect, but it still doesn’t spark much lust. Blame the styling again, a letdown considering the momentum Lexus showed with its handsome IS and GS. Those sedans are perhaps the most distinctive Lexuses yet, but the LS takes a safer approach. The result is another apologetic Asian design, a doughy blend of BMW 7 Series and Toyota Avalon.

    New York Times LS Review
  • designmandesignman Posts: 2,129
    That's very understandable, frugal and considerate. Cars are definitely a money pit.
  • houdini1houdini1 Kansas City areaPosts: 5,769
    Thanks Dewey, but you left this part out:

    "But every year, when the smoke clears, a funny thing happens: The Lexus LS handily outsells them all, in part because it keeps rolling while its trouble-prone rivals are stuck in the shop".

    I might add that the car tested was the "L". I wouldn't buy that car either. It did get 30 mpg on the hi-way however.

    2013 LX 570 2010 LS 460

  • houdini1houdini1 Kansas City areaPosts: 5,769
    There must be something wrong with your math. The LS has a base MSRP of $61,000. in the U.S. If it costs over $87,000. in Canada, that is about a 45% increase. Yet you say that the S class costs $105,000. U.S. and only $120,000. Canadian. That is only a 15% increase. Use the same increase percentage on the S and it would cost over $150,000. More hyperbole?

    2013 LX 570 2010 LS 460

  • I believe the S550 starting MSRP is USD 87K.
  • houdini1houdini1 Kansas City areaPosts: 5,769
    Thanks 2001, I was using Deweys numbers. I guess he got that wrong too. Even at 87K that would put the S at over $126,000. Canadian.

    2013 LX 570 2010 LS 460

  • Yes, you are right. It's probably due to the difference in exch rates when the pricing was set, or due to slightly different standard equipments btw the two base cars.
  • deweydewey Posts: 5,243
    I was using Deweys numbers. I guess he got that wrong too
    There must be something wrong with your math.
    Use the same increase percentage on the S and it would cost over $150,000. More hyperbole?


    Houdini, please take a few deep breaths and repeat a few peaceful mantras every hour and maybe just maybe you wont be so reactive over nothing.

    There was nothing wrong with my math. No elaborate hyperbole on my part. The figure in the brackets was a conversion based on 1.14 CDN$ = 1.00 US$.

    US/Cdn $ rates of exchange has lately fluctuated between 1.13 and 1.15.
  • houdini1houdini1 Kansas City areaPosts: 5,769
    I am much more conversant. That is why I caught you out and corrected your mistakes!!

    2013 LX 570 2010 LS 460

  • deweydewey Posts: 5,243
    I think you are very articulate and conversant indeed.
    What single mistake did you catch me doing?
    And what was there to correct?
    Is it unusual to put foreign exchange conversions in brackets?
  • I got a good deal on my wife's BMW touring. Unfortunately with taxes, pdi and all the rest it ended up being close to $80k

    You managed to get over 15% off MSRP on a BMW vehicle? Let's see, that's roughly about CDN 12K, wow that's a good deal. However, it is no bargain when you compare it to a load hauler like a minivan (just so this is similar to the context of comparing the LS, S and 7).
  • deweydewey Posts: 5,243
    Well not that good. I only managed to get over 15 percent off because it was a demo.
    But I only got 4 percent off on my BMW335i. That was no demo since there was no BMW 335i sedan in N. America at the time I ordered it.
  • In fact a BMW 335i sedan was not even in existence yet in N. America when I bought mine.

    Are you sure you are not a free lancing auto journalist? How the heck do you get your hands on a car not yet available in NA while in Toronto.
    Back on topic, do you agree that the LS460 is still a bargain comparing to the S550 , even in Canada 86K vs 120K to start?
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