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High End Luxury Cars



  • kappamankappaman Posts: 47
    Listen to merc1. Try them all out. Thats the only way you will know which is best for you. They all have their own charms, good and bad features. I've found that I have enjoyed something unique in each brand that owned(Mercedes,BMW,Lexus and Jaguar). I've also found that they all have maintence problems,some less than other, but it has been pretty even actually. But then again every car has something wrong with it.

    Although I presently on Jaguars, I would recommend the new S-class to someone in the market for highline luxury cars. My reason is that it is the only newly developed one in the pack. You can try it while waiting to see what Jaguar, BMW and Lexus will do next. Actually, the new Lexus LS and SC will be out soon, but if you buy the Benz you buy the original not the copy(Lexus).
  • automophileautomophile Posts: 780
    Since you seem to like performance with your luxury, you might consider the Audi 2.7t or 4.2. Speed (VERY fast), handling, confort, the world renowned Quattro drive, and a gorgeous interior that many feel is the best in the industry. It's worth a look!
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Monday was a real "car" day in my area. I say this because after I had passed everyone through a stoplight I found myself all alone at the next light, or so I thought. The car that pulled up next to me was none other than a BENTLEY ARNAGE RED LABEL. (He was the old $millionaire$ type, cigar and all) This was the longest red light I had ever been in. Finally the light turned green and naturally the Bentley just kind of wafted away from the light, I proceeded to get into the left hand lane to make a left turn while still looking at the Arnage pass up to the right, and by the time I came to rest in the turning lane a Mercedes CL500 was flying in the opposite direction(!). This was straight out of a commercial. Unbelievable. This was the first time I have ever seen the CL on the street. I was starting to think Mercedes was lying about selling this car, but they are out there. Oh well just thought I'd share that. Then their was the time that a F355 Spider blew past me in Applebee's parking lot, but that is another story.

  • kappamankappaman Posts: 47
    Test drove one at Lokey Mercedes in Clearwater,Fl. They are the only dealership that I've seen that has one to test drive. You have to get there before 5pm though. The manager drive it home every night an on some weekends. I've also seen two on the road and one or two Bentley's and Rolls,new ones.

    I enjoyed seeing a new DB7 coupe on my way to Orlando the best though. Even though it really the same car as my XK8 coupe, it was a rare treat.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    What did you think of the CL?

  • kappamankappaman Posts: 47
    The CL500 is nice as hell. I most admit the new S-class is growing on me, but it can't touch the CL500. The car is just the right size, the interior is nice(not as strange as the S)or as plain as the old S, and the design is really nice.

    As far as the ride is concerned, the S-class has it beat though. I felt a little shake in the steering column. I notice things like that in cars. My XK8 does the came thing sometimes. It may have something to do with the tires, I don't know.

    Would I trade in my XK8 for it? Yes. Maybe one day, but not yet. I need a little more time in the Jag.
  • budfox057budfox057 Posts: 2
    thank you for writing back w/ so much information. i agree that the test drive is the best way to determine what we want. merc1 i don't understand when you mentioned that bmw is notorious for changing the car in the last model year..please explain. and thank you both for writing..p.s. i'm a stockbroker thus the name e mail is: if you would like to say in touch..thanks again!!!
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Hold off on trading in for the CL coupe, I believe their is a CL cabriolet coming in a few years. I think.


    Ok this is how they do it. The 2001 7-Series just went on sale, and it has body-color molding and trim now plus more standard equipment....even though the car has about 16 months to go. The did the same thing in 1995 with the 5-Series. The upgraded it for the 1995 model year and then the 1997 (no 1996 models were made) model came out spring of 1996. I like the way they do it personally, they wring everything they can out of a design before changing it, and the customer almost always benefits from this. Have you driven any one of your choices yet?

  • kappamankappaman Posts: 47
    not going to trade in the XK8 yet. I need a little more time in the Jaguar. The convertible CL500 does sound good, but I like coupes more than convertibles. I can see a CL500 in my future.

    I had a 95 740il. I think its the best all around luxury car on the market. Hopefully you will not have the electrical problems I had. Looks like you got a good one.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I wish I could see into the future that way. I see "only" a C320 in mine, or maybe an M3 or 530i. Don't know yet.

  • kappamankappaman Posts: 47
    I really like the looks of the 2001 C320. Looks just like the S on the outside, but the interior look nicer to me. I would go with the C320 over the M3 or 530i myself. Newer, fresher look.
  • skuldorskuldor Posts: 1
    I'm sure this sentiment has been aired before, but let me vent: the new S class has none of the panache or "Mercedes-ness" of the old. My lease is up on my 1996 S320 and I am FORCED to look at a new 740iL or Jag....But perhaps I will opt for a 98 or 99 S320 or 420 with low miles. The only problem is that so many other Merc owners who are disenchanted with the Mitsubishi-[non-permissible content removed] Toyota-[non-permissible content removed] Mazda styling of the new "S" are also on the prowl for the old body style. There is a now a shortage of "old" S's!! Who'd a thunk it?
    Ah well, we'll have to wait a couple of years for headquarters to figure it out and bring back the Mercedes we all love to be intimidated by.
  • kappamankappaman Posts: 47
    My wife told me to tell you that you're her new friend. She ready dislike the new S too. I bought her a S320 a few years back. She went from their to the 740il and now drive the Jaguar Vanden Plas. So, I know a little about all these cars. The 740il is the best around luxury car made to me, but ours had a lot of electrical problems. The Jaguar Vanden Plas is something special. We call it our "Baby Rolls", and as far as reliability is concerned, we had more problem out of the 740il than we do with the Jag. No really many problems with the Jag at all to tell the true.

    We look at the new S, and just can't do it. We are fairly young too, but the retro on the big Benz does quite work. It remind me more of the 740il. The old problem you have in my mind is that the BMW and Jag are both going to change styles in the new year or two.

    Anyway, happy hunting.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I can see this view point on the new S-Class. It is shapely and dazzling where as the old car was stodgy, upright and intimidating. I still want the old car too. I'm hoping that the S55 and S600 will add some of that old goodness to the S-Class line. For me a 1996 S420 (before the new 1997 wheels) would be perfect, or maybe a 1994 S500.
    The new one just lost that imposing, larger than life aura of the old car, but the new S is gorgeous though!

  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I have narrowed it down to the C320, 530i (will have to see what the facelift will look like) and the M3. The M3 will be a stretch because of insurance (for my age) and price. 45K is my limit, and the M3 is supposed to start at 45K. If my company's stock doesn't improve I'll be looking at a C240 or 328Ci.

  • kappamankappaman Posts: 47
    Talk to manager at a Benz dealership that I've know for years. He is talking about getting a C320 for himself.

    Do you mean BMW 528i, and didn't they just get a facelift a couple of years ago?

    If it is the 528i vs C320, that a hard choice actually. I think I would go with the C320 though. Newer design, more room than old C, and you save $10k
  • hello26hello26 Posts: 62
    I thought I was the only one who wasn't impressed with the design of the new Mercedes flagship.

    I don't like the interior. LS400 laser light- show-[non-permissible content removed] Ford F150- [non-permissible content removed] Spaceship Mercedes.

    The exterior is very modern. In this case I don't find that to be good.
  • hello26hello26 Posts: 62
    While I'm at it let me say I think the LS430 is ugly. Fake new S front combined with Toyota Avalon.

    I think the problem is there is nothing original anymore. It seems probable that styling relates to material. When cars were metal design had to do with the characteristics of metal work. In this plastic world everything looks melted.
  • mcgowan1mcgowan1 Posts: 16
    Perrmit an older, wiser, and somewhat pragmatic auto critic to make an observation.
    As I read this topic it occurred to me that there are two kinds of people who buy these kinds of cars.
    Type 1. Those who seek status because they can afford to indulge.
    Type 2.Those who seek status and really can't afford to, but somehow manage to find the wherewithal to create the impression.
    I honestly believe that we hear most from the latter in this topic.
    Sincerely hope I haven't stepped on anyone's toes.
  • monterreymonterrey Posts: 4
    Any thoughts on the difference in snow handling between the A8 and the 740iL or S420 (all with stability control programs?) I want both a luxury and performance car for my 75 mile commute. Love the A8 but at $70k, it is missing a few of the luxury features I want. Also, Audi just put their stability program on, so am stuck buying a new A8 and paying the big bucks as I want this feature. Am considering looking at used '99 740iL or S420's (with stability option) instead. Certainly cheaper, but how much will handling be impacted -- it's really about AWD vs. rear wheel drive. I'd also do snow tires on the RWD.
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