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  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I know what happened with the name, the point being that the name was plucked out of the air, not from heritage like others. I agree that the lawsuit was stupid. Nobody even heard of Lexis before then.

    Hello26,

    The Park Ave and LeSabre both tried to look like Jaguars. The current WAS (?) a beautiful design, until they added a grille and side sills in 1997, that totally ruined it.

    M
  • hello26hello26 Posts: 62
    M,
    You wrote: ...the name [Lexus] was plucked out of the air, not from heritage like the others.
    I hate to be the one to bring this up but
    the name "Mercedes" was someone or other's daughter, and was chosen for no reason other than marketing.
  • Lexus took Lincoln to court about the LS signature. They thought ppl would actaully get it confused.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    It still has more behind it than the name Lexus. Everyone knows the story as to why her name was used. He wanted to race Gotlieb Daimler's cars under the name Mr.Mercedes, hence his daughter's name. There is nobody names Lexus. There are some Alexis' in the world, but just plain Lexus, I seriously doubt it, and if it were somebody named that car has nothing to do with them. The name Lexus was thought of during a Toyota board meeting. No heritage at all. Glad you brought it up, you proved my point for me, thanks.

    M
  • ferarri11ferarri11 Posts: 91
    the lincoln LS got a good rating in the offcenter crash tests,beating my beloved A6, the GS series Lexus and the MB E class which got acceptable ratings. to me this seems more useful than "solidity". i dont know what goes into the solid feeling other than weight and suspension components. do you? it is dissapointing to know that the solid cars are not as safe in this test as the others. (i know a single test cannot determine crashworhiness, but it is a good determination of front end collisions). i would assume the LS and S type perform in a similar manner. what surprises me most about the rigidity issue is the A6. the passat, which shares the platform performed better. this seems like an oversight on Audis part, since crashworthiness is very important to luxury car buyers. (the old XJs had among the lowest death rates of any car, without any modern safety features) i still like the Audi, but the solidity the magazines favor seem to be created independent of the platform
  • ferarri11ferarri11 Posts: 91
    i think the park avenue tries to be a gigantic jaguar, with the gentle rise at the rear to the trunk and the jag style grille. it isnt horrible and looks better than all the other big three large cars.
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,666
    You have a point. Nobody ever heard of Lexis, the legal research company, until the lawsuit. This may be the first time that paying legal fees to lawyers was the cheaper alternative to the cost of advertising Lexis. LOL 0:)
  • ferarri11ferarri11 Posts: 91
    it is funny though, that lexus took lincoln to court because they called the car the LS6 and LS8, and they dropped the numbers, to LS. i dont know too many LS 400 owners, but they refer to their cars as the LS. this seems much more confusing since lexus had the courts decide to call the Lincoln LS the LS and not LS8. even lexus commercials call the LS 400 the LS. and they forced another company to name their cheaper car the same name. they really are trivial at least, stupid at most.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I never thought of that. People do say they have an LS whether it be Linc or Lex. Who'd a thunk it?

    M
  • kappamankappaman Posts: 47
    I've been pretty busy lately working on my Masters degree.

    Jesk,
    I have a Bachelor degree in business from the University of South Florida and I'm presently working on my Masters. My grammar is sometimes questionable I'm sure. Usually I'm typing fast and don't proof what I've written. So what? I still have owned all the cars that I've mentioned. And by the way, I just ordered a platnium Rolex today. Player hate on that while you're at it. While you check my spelling, I'll continue living "the good life". Peace, love, and Soooooooooul train.

    Hello26,
    I'm sorry, I thought that I'd answered the ES300 seats question. The ES300 was our first luxury car. I bought it for our first anniversary. Anyway, I can't remember the seats honestly. I was just happy to own a Lexus at the time. We only kept the car for about 9 months because of the air conditioning problems we had, which Lexus refused to fix. We sold the car to a Lexus dealer in Orlando and loss about 3000 dollars. Not a good anniversary gift. Sorry I couldn't be more help.

    2jags2,
    I hope you are enjoying your Jaguars. People always player hate on Jaguars. I see you have already seen that. Beauty is often attacked. Anyway, I've really enjoyed my Jags. They are "crowd pleasers" amost anywhere my wife and I go. I guess you have to own a Jaguar to truly appreciate its charm. No they are not the most technically advanced, but who cares, they are special. Exotic by nature and often leaving people in a state of awe. Good luck with the Jags.

    To all,
    Hope your Fathers day was nice and that you have a happy 4th of July. Be safe.
  • ferarri11ferarri11 Posts: 91
    Lexus must not be very up to date with their owners if they dont know that...even more confusing on the first ones, with no model designation. many people didnt even know 400 was part of the name for a few years. of course, bentley and lincoln must still be at odds with each other, since they both have a continental. imagine a bentley owner getting confused with a lincoln owner. major dissapointment for a 400000 car. but both names are very old and so i guess it wont change anytime soon.
  • hello26hello26 Posts: 62
    kappaman,
    I never remember whether it's hear hear or here here but I second your wishes that all have a safe holiday.

    merc1,
    Your post made no sense to me. He wanted to race under the name Mr. Mercedes therefore his daughter was named Mercedes? What? I thought the daughter was named Mercedes and Mercedes was chosen because it was believed to have market appeal in South America or somewhere because it did not sound German. It is improbable that Daimler and Benz invented the car and the real story is that one name was dropped in favor of anyone's daughter's name. If I made your point for you I am glad to have done it.

    ferrari11,
    Thanks.
  • mjvargomjvargo Posts: 11
    The LS designation is the single most over used designation in the car buisness. The new saturn LS, the lincoln LS, the LS 400, LS is used as a trim pkg on Chevy trucks, Caddy has the STS and SLS, Camaro uses the LS1 V8. LS is the single most unoriginal designation in the car buisness.
  • ferarri11ferarri11 Posts: 91
    yeah it is used a lot, though only LS 400 and Lincoln LS owners call their cars the LS
  • ferarri11ferarri11 Posts: 91
    here- refers to the place, as in righ here
    hear-listening, i hear you

    please remember this, mixing up homophones gives other people bad impressions of the offender... :)
  • hello26hello26 Posts: 62
    But I didn't mess it up! I said I didn't know.
    And you still didn't answer the question :)
    If we are in a crowd of people and someone says
    something and another person says ________,________ is it hear hear?
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I doubt if those two "Continentals" will ever get confused, since Bentley only sold about 30 last year compared to thousands of Lincs sold last year. That Lexus point is very intersting, because just as people began to call the LS the LS400, Lincoln would have had the LS8 and LS6, totally different, but Lexus made them call theirs the "LS" too.

    Hello26,

    No the point was that the name Mercedes actually came from something other than a think-tank at a car company. Like most if not all Euro and American car they have a person or an entire family behind it. Even Toyota has that much.

    M
  • hello26hello26 Posts: 62
    It could have been think tank or board meeting but it was people sitting around a table thinking about business. Romanticizing Mercedes Benz isn't hard but why be so hung up on the Lexus name. Audi means "harken unto" or something. There's no rule cars have to be named after industrialists.
    I've been looking at Volkwagen Passat GLX 4 Motion. It wipes the snot off the face of a Lexus ES300 but it's branded "Volkwagen." An ES300 is branded Toyota in Japan. Daimler changed the name of its car so can Toyota. I think you have lexusphobia. If you don't get help at Edmunds, please get help somewhere.
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,666
    here, hear; or hear, here (just kidding); I do appreciate your confusion though; until someone explained it to me, I never understood the phrase, "the king is dead, long live the king"; a little non-automotive nonsense on a Sunday afternoon.
  • hello26hello26 Posts: 62
    I think it's "hear, hear" because I think it's
    hear [ye], hear [ye], but I'm open to being corrected:)
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