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High End Luxury Cars



  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    I know, I just love to pick on them for that boneheaded comment.
  • designmandesignman Posts: 2,129
    Oac, I see your point but disagree with it. You are trying to pigeonhole value into one low financial level. My point is that there is value at infinite levels and it makes no difference what someone earns. Lexus is about value ESPECIALLY since you indulge above and beyond your Matrix etc. LS owners have admitted on many occasions that they would have bought the S had it been more reliable especially if it had been priced similarly to the LS. There’s the convenience aspect but that’s about value too. To the working wealthy, time is money. And to those of us who aren’t wealthy, which is most of us, every dime spent is usually accompanied by a value consideration.
  • designmandesignman Posts: 2,129
    The 530 has out of grace with a lot of people. The 7 was never really in grace and yet they continue to sell well. It often confounds me but when everything is said and done the answer for me is that I would still choose a BMW as would many enthusiasts. Tolerating annoying bs is nothing new to the German car fan. It comes with the territory, always did.

    As long as Merc is being feted, this thought comes to me. He is often criticized for not owning the cars he comments on. Merc is living proof that you don’t have to own a car to know about them. Think about it, none of us own most of the cars we yenta about. Also, take a look at what the professional writers drive. These guys are on working-man budgets, not “Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous” budgets. I would bet Merc drives and reads about more of these cars than most of us.

    But what I really appreciate is that he writes and writes, and not only in this thread. To tell you the truth, that’s why I’m here. The pen is mightier than the sword and I’m here to sharpen my pen by using a topic that I enjoy. The net has restored the previously-lost art of letterwriting, and the immediacy it affords cannot be found in any literary medium.

    Now please pour me another cup of coffee.

  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    I can't. I'm still trying to get the chef of the future machine that I bought from EBay to core a apple.
  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    Good post....I'm pouring Caribou's Reindeer blend this morning. (Their premiere aged Sumatra short supply this year due in part to the Sunami) Cream, sugar, or black?

    Here is a clear pic of the testing prototype 2007 LS..
  • "He is often criticized for not owning the cars he comments on. Merc is living proof that you don’t have to own a car to know about them."

    Heck, I'd wager that most/many of the people who build MB's, BMW's and Porsche's don't own them, yet they "know" more about them than most enthusiasts. Most art critics don't own the Monet's, Picasso's, etc they write about, but that does not mean they lack knowledge about the painter and his/her style!

    Most here are considerate of other's choices and even represent their points of view with grace and humor. Flamers and trolls really stand out, don't they? My guess is that many of us would like a nice large garage with several makes occupying the bays...
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    We are NOT here to talk about others whether we are admiring or criticizing. This line of conversation needs to be dropped and I'm just going to have to remove any other posts that seem to have to talk about others, positively OR negatively.

    We MUST get back to the marques and the cars if we want this discussion to remain viable.

    I'm sorry to be so harsh, but I don't seem to be getting through here. I've got to get your attention, so please, I would appreciate everyone's cooperation going forward.
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,662
    I assume you're kiiding with that link but just in case.
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    There have been some interesting posts regarding the significance of ownership, so, I'd like to get feedback on this:

    How would you describe the difference between knowing a great deal of data about one or more of the marques, and additionally having an ownership experience which gives daily exposure and interaction with the marque? Is it logical that daily interaction offers ANY advantage to understanding a vehicle, beyond all the data?
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Why don't you start off by answering that question yourself. And by the way, what do you drive?
  • designmandesignman Posts: 2,129
    Is it logical that daily interaction offers ANY advantage to understanding a vehicle, beyond all the data?

    Of course it does. However, you can get plenty of knowledge about these cars by analyzing the specifications, observing them and test driving them without owning them. You know, you don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. I think ownership trumps if you own all of them. Owning one car and comparing it to many really doesn't offer much of an advantage when comparing, in my opinion. How many people have become scientists without owning the lab? Probably all of them.
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,662
    Well - if you lived in a luxury home with top quality furniture, a grand back yard etc - don't you think you'd know more about that experience than someone who reads Architectual Digest. Why on earth would a car be any different.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    who knows what dangers lurk beneath ...

  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,662
    Poltergeist?? Good thing they had a reliable car at the end. Wonder how that'd play in this day of Plasma and LCD TV's.
  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    YOUR POST #12078 regarding the 2007 LS on the edmunds website is great... (I asked a couple of times if anyone had good photos of the new LS.) The link from the Detroit news made it look like a different car...go figure.
  • deweydewey Posts: 5,243
    Autos, what autos?

    With all the interesting autobiographies and biographies on this site I thought this was the "Owners of High End Luxury Marques Forum".

    Personally I find discussing in-animate objects with wheels much more interesting!
  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    Woah...I like this version better Dewey ;)
  • designmandesignman Posts: 2,129
    So how do you like it, JJ? You have the new RL so I trust your taste. Elaborate. Write!
  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    I like it a lot. I actually see some BMW in the profile and some RL in the front...and it really seems to flow. A very nice design overall that will age well. The wheels....WOW! :D

    (That's as elaborate as I get :D would never guess this guy was in print media advertising for 30+ years. :shades:)
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