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High End Luxury Cars

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  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    I agree, the RAV doesnt count. Its fairly nice in Limited trim, but nobody is going to call it a "luxury" cute ute. The RAV competes in a pretty full class, CR-V, Murano, Forester, etc. The compact, luxury SUV segment is new, and for the moment your choice is the X3, or the X3.
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Just TODAY, a friend of mine, who's wife wants a small SUV, looked into the new RAV4, and discovered that it was not available with navigation. He asked me if I had an opinion on an alternative for his wife, and I happened to mention the upcoming RDX. I showed him the info on the Acura website and he lit up.

    So, while I agree that they are not in the same league, it is clear to me that people WILL climb the ladder to get to a higher tier. And, as I mentioned, you can BET the auto rags will have some crazy mized up SUV "head to head" comparos of different models. They always do.

    Read my original statement carefully and note that I clearly said the RAV4 is "not nearly the vehicle" (as the RDX). And, of course, the X3, etc.

    Just a note: this is not really HELM material, IMO, but I want to be courteous and reply, so this is my last post on this.

    TagMan
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Considering all the news generated by Ford today, I am wondering what they intend to do about Jaguar?
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    The new S-Class is a serious vehicle. I can't wait to test it. The Jaguar as a "vehicle" is not in the toilet, but the company financials are perhaps. The latest generation Jaguar XJ series is a beautiful car and receives many great reviews. I love the XJ. The Audi will continue to improve, IMO, but I would not buy one. The BMW's are respectable, and I like many things about them, but I am not a BMW buyer at this point. The Lexus LS is a viable choice, as I have said, but I have not liked the styling up to now. At this point it is too early for me to rule out the LS460 because I have not had the opportunity to put it to the test. When I do that I will make up my mind. I'm not thrilled about the pics so far. If I WERE to consider the Lexus, I would ONLY consider the long wheelbase version or the hybrid.
    TagMan
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    There is no real forum category that I am aware of for discussions about Luxury SUV's. I am still interested in the Mercedes GL diesel variant. I keep getting mixed information about the availability of the diesel in the U.S., but I am fairly confident it will show up eventually, but am concerned that it will not be cleaned up enough for California's (and some other states as well) tough standards. Lexus SUV's are totally based on the Toyota platforms, and, while very nice, they've got those Mickey Mouse third row flip-flop seats. The new Mercedes GL, however, will have fold-flat power third row seats. That's the right way to do it. I've got to believe that Lexus will address this dysfunctional shortcoming in future models. But, just what ARE their future SUV's? This is definately one area where I would seriously consider a Lexus, IF IF IF they could only build a civilized third row seat.
    TagMan
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I agree. I used to rely on Autoweek for fast and timely news, but even then you have to wait a whole week for a new issue. With the net once a press release or new photos are released they pop up instantly somewhere.

    M
  • oacoac Posts: 1,594
    It gives me no joy to tell you all that I have decided to take leave of EDMUNDS on a permanent basis. I will miss the forum, the debate, the passion, the good and the bad times, but I need to move on. To my fellow Lexicans, pls keep up the *fight*, and to Germancarfans, don't let up :) Its the give-n-take that has made this forum one of the very best on Edmunds. I plan to not return or even bother to visit Edmunds. Sad as that may be, but a decision that is long overdue for me personally.

    Maybe we'll *see* each other elsewhere away from Edmunds... I look forward to that...
  • scott1256scott1256 Posts: 531
    "In what has been common knowledge....Toyota announced on Monday that it would compete in the 2007 NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Series using the Camry name..."

    Think of the sensation Toyota would make if they used an ES 330 instead of the Camry!

    A hotrod Lexus loaded with shine outrunning the revenuers in the hills of Georgia........
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Scott,
    Now THAT sounds like fun . . . I'm going to stock up on the mosquito repellent right now! :D
    TagMan
  • scott1256scott1256 Posts: 531
    I was just kidding: I don't see Lexus in NASCAR.

    But: what if someone had predicted 5 years ago that Toyota would join NASCAR?
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    I thought you're idea was funny. I was kidding too.

    Remember the days with the races like the "Camel GT"?
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    There's not much going on with Lexus SUVs right now, they are busy with cars. There will be a new GX and a new full size to finally replace the LX based on the new Tundra, but those probably wont be around until near the end of the decade. Lexus' schedule through '08 is pretty full.
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Frustrating to wait so long. The third row is essential for my family's lifestyle and I guess that leaves the GL . . . but even then, the wait for the diesel might be a while. I want this next SUV to be the "right" one.
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    The writing was on the wall as soon as Toyota joined the Craftsman truck series. What can Toyota learn about making a better Camry from a carbureted, push-rod V8 powered slot racer with a Camry shell on it? Absolutely nothing, just like the domestics. The key difference here is that while Detroit continues to make Nascar richer while getting absolutely zero ROI, Toyota's very obvious motive is to further drive the point home that they are America's car company.
  • scott1256scott1256 Posts: 531
    I agree: Toyota is not signing up with NASCAR to develop modern technology.

    Toyota wants to capture that 'one-of-the-good-ol'-boys' aura that NASCAR exudes.

    Also, Toyota wants to reach the NASCAR fan base. This an audience of millions of people who are not traditional Toyota/Lexus buyers.
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    NASCAR is so successful now. It is EVERYWHERE.

    More brilliance from Toyota to be a part of it.
  • sysweisyswei Posts: 1,804
    More brilliance from Toyota to be a part of it.

    I wouldn't call being this late to the party "brilliant".
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    I wouldn't call being this late to the party "brilliant".

    What would you call it?

    After all, NASCAR isn't about to end anytime soon. So, it's not really "late" in the game . . .it's ongoing, will be for generations. Just getting involved, particularly at a time when Toyota has now become one of the big ones, makes sense to me.

    I suppose the risk would be that they don't fund it appropriately and that they end up looking pretty sad . . . then it would backfire on them.

    In the racing world, Paul Newman historically did some good things for Nissan, and certainly HONDA has done absolute wonders for themselves recently. So . . . here comes Toyota?
  • anthonypanthonyp Posts: 1,857
    Good Luck to you...Tony
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    If you mean what you said Oac, then this post will probably go unread.

    Anyhow, I have always enjoyed reading your posts, and hope you change your mind and visit here from time to time.
    Don't ever take any of this stuff too seriously.

    Best of luck to you!
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