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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 2,957
    My brother makes 7 figures/year, show-biz. His pride and joy "New" car? 1986 Chrysler Lebaron (and not restored, nor the TC Maserati by Chrysler) convertible. Replaced his beloved '72 Buick Skylark junker. Clothing? If you saw him you may just give him a hand out. And he's pretty darn happy. His wife? Land Rover LR3 and EVERYTHING she touches (and I mean EVERYTHING) has a Euro-designer label.

    Me & the Mrs? Acura and Lexus. So no BMW. Soon, maybe I'll be the Millionaire Next Door? Nah, probably buy a Bimmer first... :blush:

    '13 Jaguar XF, '11 BMW 535xi, '02 Lexus RX300

  • sysweisyswei Posts: 1,804
    source WSJ

    Jane David calls the white, leased Jaguar S-Type luxury sedan she received Friday from her husband, Larry, a New York stockbroker, the "best Hanukkah present I've ever gotten."

    But the surprise didn't play out exactly the way it does in car makers' holiday television ads.

    Mrs. David's doorman phoned to say she had a "heavy package" waiting outside her Upper East Side apartment building, she put off going down to get it. Meanwhile, Mr. David had double-parked the car in front of the lobby. By the time Mrs. David arrived, police had hit him with a $115 ticket....

    Many dealers say at least one or two of their customers every December wants to surprise a significant other with a new set of wheels.

    Perhaps no one pushes holiday car-gifting more than Lexus. For the eighth year, it is running TV ads that play on the theme....

    Such scenes don't just happen on television. Lexus sends two red bows to each of its 222 dealers nationwide during the annual "December to Remember" promotion, a spokesman says. Last year, Lexus sent 550 extra bows in response to orders for more. A survey of metro Lexus dealers across the U.S. last December showed that about 10% of sales were for a gift, though it didn't specify how many were surprises.

    Lynn Lipman, 52, got a surprise when she dropped off her Lexus RX SUV for maintenance at her local dealership last December. The salesman handed her keys to a new Lexus GS 300 sedan -- a gift from her husband. He had noticed she kept eyeing the car at the Southfield, Mich., showroom. Still, she went through a range of emotions common to unprepared recipients of cars. At first, disbelief, then anger -- "I'm sure I said a few things you can't write," she says -- then joy....

    It is wise to let dealers know if a car will be a gift, as many dealers say they will do exchanges if the recipient doesn't like the color or a particular feature.

    "We wouldn't let it happen several weeks later and thousands of miles later," says Molly Padovini, general manager of a Jaguar dealership in Troy, Mich. "But if the customer received a gift and was not happy with it, we would do whatever we could to make the customer happy."

    Before the magic moment, many dealers say they will go out of their way to help pull off the surprise -- communicating about the order in secret, delivering the vehicle to a chosen spot, providing the iconic oversize bow.

    Chuck Vangorden, the general manager of Meade Lexus in Southfield, Mich., once had an RX SUV delivered to the valet at Tribute, an upscale restaurant near Detroit, for a customer who wanted to surprise his wife. "He took her there for dinner, she walked out and we had it sitting there," Mr. Vangorden says. As the customer later described it, he says, "She goes: 'I always wanted one like that,' and the valet said, 'It's yours.' "

  • deweydewey Posts: 5,251

    Until now I always felt safe during in-law gatherings.
    Thanks for the warning about being driven by an in-law. I will make sure I wear a helmet next time. ;)
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,296
    I believe the truly rich don't have to flaunt it.
    If you saw Bill Gates walking down the street, he looks like he just stepped out of an LL Bean Catalog.
  • deweydewey Posts: 5,251
    Lucky are the folks who glow from within.

    True but you forgot only one thing?

    Luckier are the folks who glow from within and own a BMW 545i ;)
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,296
    Yes. I am positively glowing.... or could it be because my wife is away for 11 days visiting relatives? :)

    Hope your 335i sedan is all you expected and more.

    Best holiday wishes to all lovers of the great German HEL and LP vehicles.
    2007 should be another great sales year for these incomparable vehicles. :shades:
  • deweydewey Posts: 5,251
    Thanks it is doing just fine.

    Anyways here is a potential vehicle that the Millionaire Next Door would never be interested in. And if the Billionaire Next Door is not interested in this SUV then I wonder who the hell would buy this thing :confuse:

    A Lambo SUV likely to be powered by a Gallardo V10 or a V12 engine ?

    SOURCE: Lambo SUV


  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,296
    I'm eagerly waiting for the hybrid version. That should bring the mileage up to about 8 mpg. :shades:
  • sysweisyswei Posts: 1,804
    If anyone is shopping for a xmas gift:

    link title
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Well Dewey it looks like Mercedes is going to show some sort of concept tomorrow. Is it really going to be a S-Class convertible? Oh god I hope not.

  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,296
    Should read: If anyone IGNORANT is shopping for a xmas gift:

    All those leases are based on MSRP. One should always negotiate the price of a car whether buying or leasing.
    Nobody should pay MSRP.

    All those leases involve huge down payments. One should always negotiate leases with no down payment (capital cost reduction). I have never leased with a down payment.

    Anyone with half a brain can do much better than any of those quotes.

    Anyway, thanks for the laugh! :shades:
  • designmandesignman Posts: 2,129
    I really like the design. Looks like something that would terrorize the bottom of the ocean.
  • designmandesignman Posts: 2,129
    Merc, please help me understand the problem you have with the convertible. I love the idea... brings back the glorious era of pink Cadillacs. Dewd, that's some serious sass and swagger!

  • Very true. MFR advertisement usually use MSRP as capitalized amount. They have to do that because they have to leave something on the table for the dealers; or from a purely logical point of view, the manufacturer would be suggesting a different retail price if they suggested something other than the MSRP; only MB seems to have missed the logic there, with their use of "suggested dealer contribution" concept. Usually the "down payment" portion of a mfr advertised lease deal reflect the discount off MSRP one can reasonably expect.
  • deweydewey Posts: 5,251
    The MB S Class cabrio is a reality!

    Nostradamus and myself have a special knack for predicting things correctly. While Nostradamus can predict natural catastrophies centuries ahead in the future I can predict with 20/20 vision MB S Class convertibles and MB/E Sales figures six months in the future.

    My crystal ball has never failed me yet. ;)
  • I had a BMW (well, actually two, consecutively) when I was making 1/10 as much as I do now. Cars cease to be a status symbol when the most expensive car costs less than 5% of a person's income. It's like, do we really care about what Chinaware or silverware we use nowadays? when the most expensive (non-collectible) ones only cost a few thousand bucks.
  • deweydewey Posts: 5,251
    The article linked below (sorry it's in French) describes the increased prevalence of Ferarri accidents worldwide (some of them fatal). What will the future be like when mainstream performance/sport cars drive like ENZOs. A scary thought indeed.

    I did not post some of the ENZO accident pictures linked below because they are quite disturbing.



  • deweydewey Posts: 5,251
    True very true.

    All luxury marques (including BMW ofcourse) have become more commoditized throughout the years. And that doesnt bother me one bit. I couldn't care less about exclusivity. If Honda can produce RWD cars like the BMWs I own right now then I would buy Hondas instead ( I can live without the more exclusive Acura marque).
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I would rather see a CL cabrio I guess. Also, I guess I don't want Mercedes to add yet another model to their lineup, one that no doubt took a lot of engineering resources (a 4-door convertible) to get "right". The S-Class has seemingly been launched without so much as a peep of trouble and I'd like it to stay that way.

    I'm reading that Mercedes just registered "CLC-Class" also. What the hell is going on here? No one told me anything! I guess we'll all know whats what in a few hours.

    I mean how will a S-Class convertible look? Will it uphold Mercedes legendary convertible solidity standards? So many things have to be right for such a model to work, IMO.

    Then again I could be worried for no reason, it could be the most stunning Mercedes in years.

  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    We'll see, the fat lady might be warming up but she hasn't belted out anything just yet. A few more hours....

  • What's up with French roads and inflexible poles :-) I mean, seriously, haven't they heard of compression barriers and deflection barriers? Do they bank the turns the opposite way too? just to get rid of the fast drivers? :-) Now that's an evil thought.
  • Isn't S2000 RWD? and probably better handling than any HELC.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Well it seems that Dewey, Tagman and Designman got their wish. I present to you the Mercedes Ocean Drive Concept:






  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,296
    "Usually the "down payment"...reflects the discount off MSRP one can reasonably expect."

    No it doesn't. The down payment is simply up front money which creates the illusion of a lower monthly payment.
    For example if I have to pay BMWFS a down payment of $2500 and my monthly payment is $450 for 36 months, it is the equivalent to paying $519.44 with no down payment. It has no effect on the price of the car whether it is MSRP or otherwise.

    Also, settling for a lease with up front money also means if the vehicle is totalled in the first few months, that down payment is completely lost.
    A smart consumer will always negotiate a lease with no down payment.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,296
    Which really shows the folly of someone buying a racetrack car and using it where it is totally out of place.
    They shouldn't even sell these things for "civilized" use. Too dangerous for drivers, pedestrians and normal vehicles out there.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,296
    who post photos:

    Can't you adjust the settings so the forum column isn't shown in cinemascope?
  • sysweisyswei Posts: 1,804
    I couldn't care less about exclusivity.

    Wait, dewey, aren't you one of the germancarfans who has in the past bashed Lexus for its platform-sharing with Toyota? What's wrong with platform-sharing, other than the loss of exclusivity?
  • designmandesignman Posts: 2,129
    Man, that is SO cool! Brings back the panache of a Duesenberg. There's only one bummer. They say it's a design study. If true you know what that means... it probably will never make it to production.
  • Ouch, that poor pole could not get out of the way. It looks as if the driver did not even try to brake i.e. no skid marks, just simply a bad driver.
  • I am not much of a convertible fan, but this S actually looks good.
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