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  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    On second thought, I'd like to change that order to a cool, extra tall Tanqueray and tonic. Hope I caught you in time! :)
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    No problem. Damned good idea! :)
    TagMan
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    Yes. I had a feeling you would like the idea! :)
  • blkhemiblkhemi Posts: 1,717
    Yeah, the new X5 is an honest effort from BMW. It has certainly retained most of the good principles that the old model laid out yet banished most of the worst ones.

    I do question why BMW gave into the pressure of putting that puny 3rd row in the X5. Definetely should've left that for X6/X7 duty.

    And yes, currently the Q7 3.6 actually leases LESS than the MDX in our parts. But when you step to the 4.2 Premium maxed-out, things get a little hairy. Just cruise for the deals. They hate to see guys like you and I come to the showroom...
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    The 3rd row on the X5 is a $1200 option on the 4.8 and $1700 on the 3.0. I sure wouldn't order it.
    I don't need a 3rd row, but anyone who truly does, better look anywhere but the X5. It is a totally useless waste of money.

    Yeah. I only lease vehicles I get a great deal on. Being totally prepared helps. Also, not getting emotionally involved with any of these high-end vehicles doesn't hurt either. Which means getting up and walking out quickly if I feel I am wasting my time.

    When my BMW salesguy in Sarasota told me he couldn't offer me the 545 on my terms and that his offer was the best I would be able to get on Florida's west coast, I said sorry to hear that but I am willing to make a deal with a Palm Beach BMW dealer on my terms and enjoy the 250 mile drive back in my new 545.
    The next day, I got an e-mail from Sarasota saying my terms were okay; so I got on the phone and he was sputtering this and that, acting all upset. Yeah. Right. Like he wasn't making money off me anyway.
    These guys are unbelievable! I have absolutely zero sympathy for them. I'm sure after my transaction, he made plenty more than he should have on some other folks and slept soundly that evening.

    I go through this dance every 3 years (hopefully now, 2).
    You are correct. Dealers hate people like us. But they have only themselves to blame! :shades:
  • brightness04brightness04 Posts: 3,151
    Make sure you are driving that trip alone. My wife screamed all the way down from Haleakala as I drove after the obligatory sun rise trip. It was only with a rental Monte Carlo, with plenty brake usage. The trip down Haleaka did prepare her for the road to Hana though :-) For what it's worth, we got the car with less than 50 miles on the odo, but when we returned the car two weeks later, the brakes definitely felt different ;-) Such is driving in Maui. Gotta try the sashimi at Costco there. We went there to pick up boogie boards and snorkelling goggles, ended up taking back to our hotel 5lbs of raw tuna sashimi! POG juice was just perfect for downing that. Oh yeah, had the pleasure of feeding sashimi to birds and cats afterward having my fill :-)
  • brightness04brightness04 Posts: 3,151
    Yeah, agree with you on the dealers. I have resolved to go to Munich once a year just to satisfy my auto requirements, until and unless BMW drops its lease subsidies, as I need three cars.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    I can empathize.
    I did half of the road to Hana in a spunky little Subaru.
    My wife requested that I turn around as she was feeling car sick from the way I was "taking the turns." :shades:
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    I've never done that. Wish I could drive the 545 at their highway speeds! :surprise:
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Speaking of Maui, I'll be taking the family back over there for Easter vacation. Unfortunatley, it gets way too crouded that time of year, but now that we're not living there any more, we're kind of stuck with the kid's school breaks, like the rest of the world.

    But it's still fun, of course. My daughter will want to surf as much as possible, my son will want to build the freakin Hearst castle in the sand, my wife will want to spend a year's income in the shops, and I'll need to relax my neck with as many island drinks as I can after I do some deep sea fishing. I've landed some big ones in the past. And whether I catch 'em or not, I'm still getting those drinks. And having my Kona in the morning to get me going all over again, and keep up with the rest of 'em.

    I'm willing to bet that when it's all over, I'll need a vacation. ;)

    TagMan
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    The best Kona coffee I experienced in Maui was at the Grand Wailea Napua Club Tower.

    Enjoy! :)
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    That's where we'll be, actually. I remember walking down the beach and watching that behemoth being built when I lived there... just up the beach a ways where those private homes are located... I think you know where I mean. :shades:

    Hey, what do you really think of the Q7's styling? I like the vehicle's interior, but I've got to be honest and mention that I'm not all that turned on with the exterior styling, and I was wondering if you or others felt the same way.

    TagMan
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    Hey, what do you really think of the Q7's styling?

    The Q7 with its soft curves seems more like a big brother to the Allroad wagon than say the GL or LX, which are the big traditional boxes. I wouldn't call any of these vehicles gorgeous, but the Q7's look is at least interesting, and the interior is far better than the Lexus or Mercedes, in fact I like it better than the RR's.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    I don't care much for the Q7's exterior styling either. Kind of reminds me of the...ugh... Infiniti FX. (except from the front, where it is patently "Audi"). I prefer the more conservative MDX, but I will go where the bargains are.

    Hey, is the fence still electrified where you used to live? :)

    When you get there, see if the Kona coffee they put out at the Napua Club breakfast buffet isn't the best coffee you ever tasted. Also, be prepared for a lot of kids... a lot of kids. I actually prefer the slightly more sedate Four Seasons next door.
  • houdini1houdini1 Kansas City areaPosts: 5,903
    While we are making travel plans, I have successfully snagged 4 tickets to the Monday practice round at the Masters this year. My foursome will rubberneck all day Monday and then play a couple of the local courses on Tuesday and Wednesday (Stone Mountain and The Atlanta Trophy Club) then return Thursday.

    Just to stay on topic I will probably scout out an LS 460 in my spare time. :)

    PS: The Kona you get here never tastes the same as in Hawaii.

    2013 LX 570 2010 LS 460 2002 Tacoma 4x4

  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    Wow! Being a spectator at Augusta National is something I would drop everything to do at a moment's notice! Enjoy it. Something I'm sure you will never forget.

    The Kona coffee you get here and in the Maui gift shops is usually stale and is only about 10% Kona beans.
    You haven't lived until you have tasted fresh, 100% Kona coffee! It can be ordered online from various island farms.

    But, wouldn't you really rather drive one of Tiger's Buick courtesy cars? :)
  • houdini1houdini1 Kansas City areaPosts: 5,903
    After seeing Augusta National in person my plan is to tell everyone that I am sure that I could shoot par there. Then dare them to arrange for me to prove it!!

    2013 LX 570 2010 LS 460 2002 Tacoma 4x4

  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    the Q7's look is at least interesting, and the interior is far better than the Lexus or Mercedes, in fact I like it better than the RR's.

    Well, LG, sometimes you and I agree and sometimes we don't. This time we don't. I think the Range rover is stunning, sharp corners and all. The Mercedes GL is OK, but overall I'm not thrilled with it. But from an exterior styling standpoint, I'd have to put the Q7 slightly behind the others in the group, not say that it's bad, but it's just got some strangeness to it that I don't like... while the others do not.

    But the Range Rover... it's got the looks hands down, IMO.

    TagMan
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    I've stayed there before... yeah the kids are everywhere, and the Four Seasons has changed... lots of kids, too. And, yes, the club's Kona coffee is very good. I might have seen you there, but never knew it! ;)

    Well, we also agree about the Q7's styling.

    Every once in a while our local Costco carries 100% Kona coffee beans, and I buy bags of it.

    The wife's '06 MDX has been perfect so far, and the '07 is supposed to be even better.

    TagMan
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    Don't forget to bring back the video of you going down the water slide! :shades:

    I didn't know about Costco and Kona. Might be worth renewing my long-expired membership.

    One Edmunds consumer review down-graded his MDX because the steering needed too much effort! Now I'm really interested in the MDX! :)
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    I'll be the one with the drink in his hand fighting off hotel security.

    The Kona only shows up once in a while... that's why I buy so much of it when it does show up.

    Yeah, we don't want any of that girly steering, that's for sure. We want to steer like men! :shades:

    TagMan
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    Shoot par there? Not with those slick greens. I guarantee folks like us would have at least several 4 putts! Try adding at least 10 strokes to your regular score.

    To keep on topic: Any of the HELCS above would look smashing driving through Augusta National's main gate.
    I, myself, would prefer to do it in a shiny red 911 with the top down, sunglasses on and a premium gin and tonic at the ready in the driver's cup-holder. But that's just me! :shades:
  • houdini1houdini1 Kansas City areaPosts: 5,903
    Well, the only way you can prove to me that I can't shoot par there is for you to take me there and arrange a match. OK?

    Tag, how did those Kona beans smell on the ride home from Cosco? :)

    2013 LX 570 2010 LS 460 2002 Tacoma 4x4

  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    Unfortunately, I am not a member nor do I know any members at that distinguished club; although my son-in-law has connections at Pine Valley in NJ.

    I'm lucky I'm still a member here on Edmunds! :shades:
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    One Edmunds consumer review down-graded his MDX because the steering needed too much effort! Now I'm really interested in the MDX!

    Thats the one thing that I don't really like about the X3, the steering is very heavy at parking speeds, but too light at highway speeds. I prefer the opposite.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    Who knows? Maybe real wood will be an option in the 2008 version.

    That guy who posted as an Edmunds consumer reviewer was the only person out of tons of professional and consumer reviews that I have read who complained about the MDX steering. Everybody else who commented about the steering had good things to say. Therefore, I cannot really take his complaint seriously.

    Personally, I would rather have more effort than less.
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Tag, how did those Kona beans smell on the ride home from Cosco?

    Kona is one of the very best, IMO... better than Columbian... but because of Juan Valdez and his cartel, Columbian rules the planet. ;)

    BTW, heavier power-steering beats light over-boosted power-steering anyday. And I agree with Lexusguy that if it's going to be variable, there should be more assist when parking and less assist as the speed increases.

    TagMan
  • anthonypanthonyp Posts: 1,857
    I`v heard from Merc and he is fine.... The loaner my wife got when she serviced her bmw stationwagon was a 3 and Hpowders thought maybe he would consider the new 3 convertable----way too small---IMO--- Tony
  • houdini1houdini1 Kansas City areaPosts: 5,903
    In post 482 on the LS forum it has finally been found out that the larger brakes for the LS only come with the Touring option.

    Since the recently tested LS had wonderful brakes but no touring option, one must assume it had the regular smaller brakes.

    2013 LX 570 2010 LS 460 2002 Tacoma 4x4

  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    I've given up on the 335i convertible, Tony. Just not practical. I need a lot of rear space.
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