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Honda Civic vs. Hyundai Elantra

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  • nthenthe Posts: 414
    "Actually the Civic and Mazda3 are pretty comparable in price and available features "

    while their stickers may be similar in price, you can get a much better discount on the mazda.

    mazda is a little more expensive than hyundai, but much like hyundai, you get alot of car for the money.
  • angloannangloann Posts: 2
    I just bought a Honda Civic and find that there is often a reflection of the dashboard in the windshield - sometime making it impossible to see anything going from sunlight into an enclosed area. I think this is very dangerous. I had a 2002 Hyundai Elantra before. I have had this Honda four days and am beginning to regret buying it. I test drove it on a day that was cloudy and had no idea that this would be a problem. Since I live in Florida, it is not cloudy very often! Has anyone else had this problem?

    By the way I thought I was upgrading a little by buying the Honda, but now I am not so sure as I was very happy with the Hyundai, especially the warranty.
  • nj2pa2ncnj2pa2nc Posts: 813
    i did the same thing in december 04. I bought an 05 civic ex-se after hearing how wonderful and great they were. I had an lx model as a loaner car for over a week. I did like it even tho is was a little lacking on power with the automatic. I also have a 05 elantra GT which turns out to be better made, more comfortable than the civic. I no longer have the civic-sold it.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    don't know if you can prove that it is 'better' made, but to each his own. (as is preference on comfort.)

    But he was talking about one of the new civics i belive, i never had a problem witht the windshield reflection thing, sometimes you see it, i guess, like any other car, but aside from getting used to the swoopy feeling, i never had any problems.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    really thought about what you said snake, we've got some long ones too, (ramps that is) and if i'm taking it easy i don't hit 4000rpms. If i'm having a litte fun then yes. But there are some other ramps that are just short as can be around here and sometimes you do gotta floor it.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    A 2007 Elantra SE has the following standard

    Quite familiar with what the elantra has standard, always agreed that it does offer more standard features. Thats not the argument. Actually, there really is no argument at all do be honest! :confuse:

    You can be as sorry as can be but that doesn't change the fact myself and more than a few others do not view Honda as the best there is. Obviously there are those who refuse to believe this can be true..keep dreaming.

    Thats fine that you don't think honda is the best there is. I personally don't think they are either and by assuming that i may prefer the civic to the elantra doesn't mean that i think that 'honda is the best'. I just hope you weren't referring to me with that sentence.

    While hondaphiles may be over zealous of their cars, hyundai people just seem to have a very sublte way of dissing hondas as well so its kind of a wash. I mean, we could go on and on about how honda guys are and how hyundai guys are and it wont change anything.

    I just am not one of those guys. And yes i am as sorry as can be because you situation really sucks and i feel for ya.
  • nj2pa2ncnj2pa2nc Posts: 813
    I know they were talking about the new civic- at first I thought it looked like a spaceship but the more I see the better they look. I was comparing my 05 civic to my 05 hyundai- alot of minor problems with the civic. I did love the way it shifted. (manual transmission) I do still like honda products as I own an acura tsx 6 spd.happy safe motoring.we also have a honda motorcycle
  • angloannangloann Posts: 2
    Stilltrying to ascertain whether anyone else has had a problem with dashboard reflection in the windshield, and rear window. Went back to the dealer and they put a solution on it which helped for about an hour and then back to square one./ Sometimes, depending on where the sun is, I cannot see a thing which is very dangerous.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,556
    I had something like that with a Chevy Corsica I had in the 90's. Never really noticed it until my sister pointed it out :mad:

    There are three types of people in this world. Those who are good at math and those who are not.

  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    Went out and drove the car earlier...'06 Civic. For the life of me, can't figure out what you're talking about. No reflection anywhere. Did notice a difference in the speedometer with my polarized sun glasses on though.
    Sorry, wish I could be of more help.

    The Sandman :)
  • ukraguyukraguy Posts: 28
    Elantra Hatchback/ Avante FD/ i30

    A bit like a civic on the front but still, I like it. :)

    http://bbs.auto.naver.com/nboard/read.php?board_id=car_korea&page=9&nid=16593
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    Very cool car there. Guess the new thing in the auto world is these small econo hatchbacks. What's old is new again I suspect. From what I've read, the new Versa is huge inside as compared to the others. Just don't know why the mpg's are not that much better than the Corolla/Civic size cars. I'd think the smaller 1.5 & 1.6 engines combined with the smaller weight would deliver more impressive mileage figures.
    Seem like great 1st cars for kids just starting out in life. As long as they all have killer sound and decent get up & go, I'm betting this will be the segment with the most growth in the next 10 years or so.

    The Sandman :)
  • lightfootfllightfootfl Posts: 442
    Can't help but notice in this and other forums that lots of people are seeing the new drivers (fresh out of school,or in school even) are expecting new (latest models) cars as their 1st car. I wonder why. Most 1st timers used to get into the used cars market, and with the prices of vehicles as high as they are, I certainly don't understand the thinking behind the new car purchases. Are we really that affluent that we are giving away new cars to our kids?? I don't think they are buying them on their own (with their own money). I dare say that most of us didn't get a "new" car as our 1st one. Just my thoughts. Even so, it must be nice. :) Yes, I am older than most of you.
    van
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,618
    One possibility is that the parents want their kids to have cars with the latest safety equipment. (The Civic and Elantra have a lot of standard safety equipment.) Or it could be a reward for studying hard, getting a college scholarship, any number of possibilities. It could just be a generous parent with enough money to do it.

    I personally don't have the expendable income to give new cars to my kids--a lot of it goes for their high school and college tuitions! But I have and will give each of my 3 kids a nice, used, well-maintained hand-me-down economy car when they reach 17. That's my personal choice, and I have my reasons for doing it. I don't expect everyone else will want to do the same thing, and I don't begrudge parents who give a new car to their kids. Even though one case at my sons' school rolled my eyes: boy gets brand-new Audi from dad; son totals it in the school parking lot; dad buys him another new Audi; he totals that one a few weeks later; dad buys junior ANOTHER brand-new Audi etc. I can only wonder what that boy will grow up to be like.
  • bhmr59bhmr59 Posts: 1,598
    backy, with all due respect your other customarily good remarks, that story about the kid totaling 2 brandnew cars in a couple of weeks, and then daddy buying the kid a 3rd new car, is one of the best things I've even seen you post.

    Obviously, some parents have more money than brains. I mean we're not talking fender benders here, which many new drivers have. These had to be fairly serious crashes to "total" new Audi's.

    I once lost a potential new client when I told the mommy that if she really loved her 16 year old son she would not buy him the new Mustang GT 350 or 500 (whatever it was) back around '79.

    And, what the hell do you have to be doing to total a new Audi in a school parking lot?
  • First off, I think both of these cars are at the top of their class. Pretty much ive narrowed it down to the Elantra SE/Limited and the Civic EX/LX. Basically im looking for the best car for my money to replace my 03 Ford Focus. The things I mostly look for are a comfortable and quiet ride that gets more than 30MPG, followed by a good looking car. Oh and my next ride has to have cruise, power windows/locks and a automatic transmission. I broke each car down into a set of pros and cons.

    What is better about the Elantra SE/Limited
    Lower MSRP than Civic
    Longer Warranty
    Free Roadside Assistance
    Leather

    What is better about the Civic LX
    Better resale value
    Sporty more nimble ride.
    4MPG better gas mileage (by 07 standards)

    Both cars definately have their pro's and con's, but at this point after driving both vehicles I am leaning towards the Hyundai Elantra.

    Elantra lower price than Civic: A Civic LX is roughly $900 more than the Elantra SE, but it lacks the 4 wheel disk brakes and alloy wheels. That is before the $1500 in rebates I get for the Elantra. So the Elantra is cheaper by $2400 dollars and comes with a few extras.

    Longer warranty: A 3year/36000 mile b2b warranty vs a 5year/60000 mile b2b.

    Free roadside assistance: 5 years unlimited miles for roadside assistance. You would have to pay for roadside assist in the Civic. Granted i've never once in my life used roadside assistance, but ya never know when you might run over a box of nails or similar bad luck.

    Leather: For another grand I can step up to the Elantra Limited and get leather. Civic doesnt have the leather.

    Perceived reliability: Im my experience the majority of people I talk to believe the Honda to be a more reliable/dependable ride. A few wont even consider any other brands other than Toyota or Honda. I have no doubt they are reliable and problem free, however, I think Hyundai matches both. Hyundai scores quite well in Consumer Reports, and JD Powers ranks them third for 2006 Initial Quality(behind Porsche and Lexus).

    Driving conditions: The Civic nearly wins me over when it comes to driving both cars back to back. Both cars are quite, comfortable rides. The Civic fits like a glove, and it definately handles better than the Elantra. Matter of fact it comes closest to my old miata in the handling department out of all the new cars ive drove recently (06 fusion, 06 accord, 06 sonata, 07 sentra, 07 versa, and even the new 07 altima). The Elantra is alot more open and feels alot bigger (which it is)

    Gas mileage: The civic wins here, 40MPG vs 36MPG (highway). This is primarily a work car so I drive about 12,000 miles a year (mostly highway). So the Elantra will use 33.3 more gallons a year, which works out to $100 more a year at $3.00 a gallon. The slightly increased annual fuel cost is not a make or break point for me.

    Is there something else I should be considering when I compare these two cars. The way I see it the Elantra makes a strong case.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,556
    Perceived reliability:

    I most likely have the most miles on my Elantra than anyone on these forums (142K on my '00 wagon), I will say without a doubt it has been the most reliable car I have ever had. Only had one thing go wrong with it and that was at over 120K miles. Other than that the car is running fine.

    Is there something else I should be considering when I compare these two cars.

    My question is how long do you plan on keeping the car? If its a long time than I wouldn't worry about resale value as it would be meaningless after you run the car into the ground.

    There are three types of people in this world. Those who are good at math and those who are not.

  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,618
    A couple of things to consider are dealer availability (how close are they to you?) and seating comfort. If you will regularly carry long-legged adults in back, they might appreciate the extra legroom in the Elantra (and the fold-down armrest, not available on the Civic LX). You could rent an Elantra for a day or weekend to see how it feels in the driver's seat after a few hours of driving. (Harder to rent a Civic.) Another thing I have appreciated on my Elantras is the 60/40 split seat (also not available on the Civic LX), which allows me to carry long cargo yet still hold 3-4 people.

    If you have any concerns over reliability of the Elantra, you can buy a 10-year, 100k miles extended warranty (bumper to bumper and transferable) and it will still cost less overall than the Civic LX.
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    Both are very good cars but I really think the Civic has that "overall goodness", something intangible which I really can't put into words. This car just has it...it just fits like a glove. I never got that feeling when i sat in the Elantra...or even the Sonata for that matter.
    Pricewise, the Elantra wins hands down. Ditto for warranty, roadside & features. But it's just not a "Honda". If I were you, I'd personally wait till the new Corolla debuts. I think it'll be an awesome car, as it competes with some heavy hitters in this segment.
    Maybe it's just me, I thought the last generation Elantra looked so much better. I just can't get past the looks of this new generation. And it just doesn't have that feeling I alluded to earlier. I know I'll get flamed by certain folks in here but that's how I feel. I was more than happy to pay the extra $ for my Civic as I felt I got more...sorta like a mini Acura.
    Ready for the attacks now...let's just act like adults...PLEASE!

    The Sandman :) :)
  • bhmr59bhmr59 Posts: 1,598
    You bought what you liked. Continued good luck with it.

    Some people just don't think there is anything magical about being a "Honda."
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