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2011 Buick Regal

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  • The 2011 Hyundai Sonata is...........no need to check again. All of these cars can easily get 35 mpg hwy. EPA notwithstanding.

    The 2011 Regal can't..period.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    I have not seen any specs on the vehicle, weight, size, etc. other than engines power. If as stated here in a post, 4000#, that would put it at the weight of the Lacrosse. Maybe there was something wrong with the one I drove, CXL loaded, but that 3.0 with 6 speed seemed very sluggish, especially compared to CXS with the 3.6L.
    I really don't get putting the 2.4 in the base model other than they likely shave about 300#. My 09 BU with 2.4 is only 3436# with 169HP. That is sufficient except when loaded, downshifts frequently in Appalachians, and a bit weak at highway acceleration.
    Pushing the extra power out of the Regal version will likely shorten life some. And as to mileage, the BU is great at speeds around 45 to 60 MPH. I'm guessing that they rated highway mileage at 65MPH as that seems a close match, but forget 70MPH. At that speed it is about 4MPG shy of rated. If rolling just under 80MPH, it drops to about 26 MPG, a loss of 7MPG from rated highway. Very close to what I was getting with Aurora V8 except it had lots of acceleration at that speed, was a much heavier vehicle, and far better ride. However I don't miss the extra 32 cents per gallon for premium.
    My real world everyday which is not really city, more like combined, is just over 25MPG.
    I'd bet this Regal costs more to run with the base because of weight and hopefully slightly larger interior. Someone posted expected costs for fuel. I suspect he is off quite a bit. On the BU, using numbers that are close to my real world, I'd use 453 gal., actually less than EPA assumption of 45% highway, rest city. A few years back the average driving was upped to 15000 per year. Price of flying and hassle probably contributed. The average may be down at this point, even with lower fuel prices simply because of the number of people out of work and people being frugal just because of uncertainty.
    I might decide to travel a bit more and could easily go through that figure, but will also figure with 15000 a year and with the change my gas consumption would jump to 560 gal.
    Then assuming a Regal with the 2.4L and what I'd expect mileage wise since it is a heavier car and would push a bit more air, my consumption might be 622 gallon per year.
    At todays gas prices, $2.50 = $1555 annual.
    Gas is not going to stay and it is just a matter of time before it gets back close to $5.00, likely before you pay the vehicle off.
    At $5.00 = $3110 per year. A little over $250 a month. To some that might be pocket change, however I considerate significant and would think of it as a windfall if I could pocket that.
    Just part of owning an auto though, however to tack on another $0.35 premium, what it was a peak, $18/month, no thank you. And turbos had been getting lower MPG than the non-turbo counterpart.
    Bottomline, I'd like to test drive a Regal, but likely will not because of the way equipment is grouped here at Edmunds. If that is real world options, it would force me to take a sunroof for anything other than base model.
    I don't need no stinkin sunroof. In only one high end application did I ever see one that did not add noise to the cabin and that was because it actually had the glass as an outer layer and a panel that closed and sealed as if the glass was not there. Regardless, such things get leaks whether air or water, no thanks again. And the glass is far heavier than the sheet metal further hurting MPG.
  • prigglypriggly Posts: 643
    Anyone know if the new upcoming Buick Regal comes with H.I.D. Bi-Xenon headlights?

    Thanks.
  • gmcustsvcgmcustsvc Posts: 4,003
    Hello,
    2011 Regal CXL that began production last month will not have the H.I.D. Bi-Xenon headlights. However, the CXL Turbo that is scheduled to come out in the fall 2010 will have HID headlamps as an option. Thank you,
    Mariah GM Customer Service
  • prigglypriggly Posts: 643
    Thank you, Mariah.

    I am impressed that GM Customer Service monitors these boards!
  • jipsterjipster Posts: 5,345
    Saw the new Regal at the auto show a couple months ago... very impressed.
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    The 2011 Buick Regal is on the way and I wanted to get things rolling here. I am very interested in this car (I never thought I would be interested in a Buick) but the initial reviews are outstanding and I love the look.
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
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    Specifications

    VEHICLE TYPE: front-engine, front-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 4-door sedan

    ESTIMATED BASE PRICE: $27,500–$30,500

    ENGINE TYPES: DOHC 16-valve inline-4, aluminum block and head, direct fuel injection; turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 16-valve inline-4, aluminum block and head, direct fuel injection

    Displacement: 145 cu in, 2384cc/122 cu in, 1998cc
    Power (SAE net): 182 bhp @ 6700 rpm (2.4)/220 bhp @ 5300 rpm (2.0)
    Torque (SAE net): 172 bhp @ 4900 rpm (2.4)/258 lb-ft @ 2000 rpm (2.0)

    TRANSMISSIONS: 6-speed automatic with manumatic shifting, 6-speed manual

    DIMENSIONS:
    Wheelbase: 107.8 in Length: 190.2 in
    Width: 73.1 in Height: 58.4 in
    Curb weight (mfr’s est): 3600 lb

    FUEL ECONOMY (MFR’S EST):
    EPA city/highway driving: 18–20/29–30 mpg

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    If General Motors hadn’t imploded, the Buick Regal wouldn’t have been a Buick; it would have been a Saturn. The Regal is essentially a European-market Opel Insignia—a mid-size sedan that competes with the Ford Mondeo, Honda Accord, and Volkswagen Passat over there—rebadged and rebranded for the U.S. and China. It went on sale in the latter country last December.

    In case people are worried about Buick’s offering what amounts to a gussied-up mid-size family sedan in the luxury field, that’s what Lincoln and Acura have done with the MKZ and TSX, respectively. We have to say the Buick is a classier piece than both of those. It’s handsome to look at and is hardly changed from the Insignia; only the grille, headlamps, taillight bulbs, badging, and side-mirror glass are different. Eighteen-inch wheels are standard, with 19s on the options list.

    http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/car/09q4/2011_buick_regal-first_drive_review-
  • berriberri Posts: 4,004
    i think the new Regal has some good potential. However, I wonder if they are making a mistake rushing out a higher priced performance model months before a more mainstream model is available? I'm thinking that could give the car a reputation as "too expensive" before the mainstream (and volume) model hits the showrooms?
  • stephen987stephen987 Posts: 1,994
    edited May 2010
    Actually the only one that is available right now is the CXL with the base engine. It's nicely equipped but is not even remotely a "performance model." This CXL is probably going to be the volume model, but I haven't seen a single review of it anywhere (though the Turbo, which won't be available till fall, is getting lots of press).
  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 573
    edited May 2010
    USA Today auto writer James Healey gives the new Regal good marks:

    USA Today Autos

    :blush: Here's my comments:

    The new Regal looks pretty good. I saw one at my local GM dealer and was impressed. I would wait for the turbo engine though. The base engine is barely adequate in what is supposed to be a sport sedan. The GS will be the real performance model though.

    I hope GM can find some weight savings in future product offerings. 3600 pounds is a tad heavy for a car this size and hopefully the next generation will come in under 3500. GM is still on life support in my mind and is in no position close to an IPO and gov't payback this year. If a true economic recovery takes hold in the 2nd half of 2010 (a big if), GM should be able to pay back all the taxpayer bailout funds through an IPO within a year.

    Then maybe they can put some of the ugliness behind them and move forward profitably. The next few quarters will be critical and the new Regal provides GM with a product to help the cause.
  • dash5dash5 Posts: 417
    This new Regal is in an interesting niche. They mention it's geared to fight the TSX and Volvo S60 market in a few articles I've read.

    I'm still trying to get a handle on what this car is though. Cross shopping it with the Kia Optima and Hyundai Sonata, the Buick is less powerful and heavier yet looks like it will cost more. Does it offer a more luxurious ride or better features?
  • mitchfloridamitchflorida Posts: 419
    Why did GM marketing choose such a boring name for this new model? Invicta, Wildcat, Electra, Centurion, Skylark, LeSabre . . all would have been better than Regal. Ditto with LaCrosse, which they can't even use in Canada . .

    You have to wonder . .
  • biancarbiancar Posts: 913
    Hmmm....not sure I agree with you there. I think "Regal" is fine. Dignified. Suggests luxury. Easy to pronounce and spell.

    Invicta - sounds like a curse. Too close to "invective." Wildcat - not for Buick's demographic, and not for this particular car. Sounds like street-racer wanna-be. Centurion - Lots of Buick buyers might not want to be reminded of how close they are to the "century" mark. Although "Buick Century" - that sounds good to me.

    Skylark - wasn't that one of the sportier and less expensive Buicks years ago? To me it sounds like a name that would fit better on a convertible. Sounds somewhat feminine. Not a problem for me, but might be an image thing for male buyers.

    Le Sabre - fine in many ways, but didn't the previous Le Sabre have quality control problems?

    "Regal" to me doesn't have any of the bad connotations of some of the others. I wouldn't be embarrassed to say I bought a Buick Regal. I can't imagine myself saying I bought a Buick Wildcat. Just doesn't sound right.
  • prigglypriggly Posts: 643
    Have you seen in person or sat in a new Regal?

    It is worlds ahead of anything Kia or Hyundai make including the new Sonata. It is more posh, more refined, has a better interior and probably a better ride although I cannot say that for sure because I have not yet driven the car. It also has a very rich feature set.

    With the turbocharged engine it should be an excellent performer.

    GM's dealer network is also superior to either Kia or Hyundai in both the U.S. and Canada and that is an important feature if you travel much in the wide, open spaces.
  • berriberri Posts: 4,004
    The last time I was at a Hertz counter there was an obviously foreign Asian man at the gold counter asking about getting an Optima. The Hertz guys told him the Camry was a nicer ride and that is why they didn't put their Optima's on the gold customer list. Don't know which he ended up taking.
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,419
    I have sat in both. The 2011 Sonata and 2011 Regal both have very good interior finishing (although I think the real improvements to the 2010 Sonata over the similar 2006 may have been cheapened in the 2011 restyle). I prefer the Regal styling, even though the Sonata is more "in yer face." I have no idea how you can infer that the ride of the Regal is better. Both have powerful turbo engines waiting in the wings. The Sonata is really a quality piece and has the advantage right now (these things change all the time) of a better exchange rate/profit margin. Saying the Regal, which I like very much, is worlds ahead of the Sonata (or the even better 2011 Optima) seems a bit of an overstatement.
  • prigglypriggly Posts: 643
    edited June 2010
    I didn't say the Regal had a better ride. I said it probably had a better ride. After all, it is a Buick, isn't it?

    Don't try to twist what I said to suit your own opinion. It is my opinion that the Regal indeed is worlds ahead of the Sonata.
  • savethelandsavetheland Posts: 671
    In MT midsize comparo test new Sonata was only 3rd or 4rd after Camry and Fusion mostly because of ride. My expectation is new Sonata like older one is Camry wannabe, i.e. Asian version of Buick. Now Regal won European COTY and Europeans do not take quality, ride and handling lightly. It is reasonable to expect that Regal will ride and handle better than Camry and Sonata. It is also more expensive than Sonata, I do not know why anyone compares it to Sonata. It will rather be competitor to VW Passat, like it is currently in Europe. And when Ford Mondeo arrives it will also compete with Regal, though I expect it to be cheapened for America somehow.
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