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2011 Buick Regal



  • kernickkernick Posts: 4,072
    edited December 2010
    No, I could see spending the $33K or so for an Infiniti G37 with over 300 hp. Luxury and power. And you have the option of AWD for slightly more.
    I don't see anything premium in the base 4-cyl engine, or in their turbo which I've test-driven in a Pontiac Solstice GXP, a lighter vehicle, where it is still nothing exciting.

    I'd think the Regal could at least have an engine like the V-6 in the Mustang, giving 300+hp and over 30 mpg highway, in about the same size vehicle. That is not even a premium vehicle, selling for $22K. What's the fully loaded Regal costing? Come on ... the "young-man, sporty" Regal gets smoked by a base Regal at any stoplight.

    I would like to see U.S. auto companies succeed. But they're not going to do it by investing a lot of money in a low-selling vehicle. Chevrolet has nothing selling in volume, that doesn't get a large percentage of its sales from fleet-sales. I thought maybe Buick would change, and get some sales and profit here in the U.S., instead of being a Chinese brand. GM needs some "homeruns" in the market. The Regal justs happens to disappoint me, when I'm expecting a better and less costly vehicle then other vehicles in that size vehicle.

    So I have a negative opinion, you have a positive opinion. Both sides of the coin being discussed here. If you want to negate my opinion, make a case of why the Regal is great. I think people who are considering a Regal ought to hear both sides; this isn't cheerleading camp.
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 1,542
    There is no point in arguing. You clearly have a view and nothing I can say can change that regardless of the argument I might make. Send you dollars across the Pacific and let the rest of us make decisions based on things other than outdated preconceptions.

    2011 Buick Regal Turbo, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • Had our Regal almost a week now. Think it's great. Nice ride, feels very european. I have owned 3 benzs and my wife has had 3 CTS's. Last one being a 2008.( MSRP $ 39,000).

    This Regal is not that far apart from the 39k CTS. And at 255 a month for a 28K car, with 2500.00
    down, for 38 months I think that's a terrific deal for us. Sun roof,heated seats,leather,bluetooth, 18 inch wheels, etc. Fit and finish are very nice and I like how quite it is compared to the Sonata.

    We will see how everything works out, but so far we love our car.
  • apparently you havent driven or read anything about the vehicle. The dynamics have been universally praised. If anything, the engines are the main source of contention. The 2.4L has been called barely adequate while the turbo has been called adequate but not exciting. The steering, handling and braking have been loved by the auto press. If you dont care about style and interior quality that would explain why you don't like the Regal much.
  • 1. You cannnot get a G37 for $33k. A G37 equipped like a loaded Regal turbo is around $40k. Is the car faster for that extra 5 grand? Yes. Not everyone will feel $5k is an equitable price to pay for more acceleration- especially when the cars are pretty evenly matched in size, quality and handling
    2. A base Mustang is much more sparsely equipped than a base regal and the Mustang is competing in a totally different segment
    3. Four cylinder engines are going to become more mainstream in luxury vehicles. Audi and Acura already have models with I4s and BMW will add four cylinders in the future. Its been reported that the new small RWD Cadillac will also come with an I4 standard.
    4.No one owes any explanation of why the regal is "great". No one has even made such a claim. People have claimed that its a nice handling, attractive car with a nice interior available for under $30k. The ONLY thing the regal gives up to CC and TSX is acceleration. Aside from that its every bit as well built and refined as those cars. If you think the Regal is so inferior you should make a case for why its competitors are "great".
  • What color and model did you get?
  • "To me the main thing about a vehicle is - how does it drive. Braking, acceleration, cornering, and traction"

    So how Regal and Sonata compare in this regard, can you educate us please? I test drove both and compared in wrote about it in series on posts. Of course I was not able to test them on track for extended period of time but I least I tried as much as I could. I did not see comparison review from serious car magazines yet, but according to MT Buick has better handling and steering than Sonata. Regarding brakes in Sonata they are rather grabby and in Regal are more linear.
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,419
    Why do you continue to attack the Sonata? These vehicles are in different classes. Compared to the Fusion or Malibu, the Sonata does very well. Compared to the Regal or S60 or TSX, it isn't in the same league, even if offering more toys.
  • cooterbfdcooterbfd Posts: 2,770
    ".....Why do you continue to attack the Sonata?"

    I don't think he's attacking the Sonata so much as defending the Regal, as there have been comparisons made to the point that the Sonata is faster and cheaper, so "why bother with the Regal"
  • In all due respect gregg_vw, Fusion handling and steering is better than Sonatas. And BTW I would prefer Fusion V6 to 2.0T in Sonata. In general Fusion feels like more refined and more European car when driven, interior design be damned. BTW do you drive VW? Is Sonata better than VW (any)?

    We compare Sonata to Regal because both have 2.0T and 2.4L engines and other similarities as well, like size.
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 1,542
    It isn't an "attack" on the Sonata. The problem is that the Sonata cheerleaders on this and many other automotive site continually make claims that the car is the only logical choice over other vehicles in any number of other classes in which it does not even compete, the Regal among them. By choosing to argue with these types to offset their absurd claims, it is not an attack on the Sonata.

    2011 Buick Regal Turbo, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • exactly. If you dont bow down to the Sonata, its backers will come after you and trash every competing car in the process. Whats amazing about the Sonata worship is that the only thing that has REALLY changed is the styling. The old car was affordable, efficient and spacious. It was a great deal compared to Camry and Accord. For 2011, Hyundai followed the same formula but made the sheetmetal more exciting- aside from that the car has the same attributes its always had. The fact that its more stylish doesnt mean any similar car is suddenly an also ran. I for one dont even think the Sonata is that great looking. The coupe like greenhouse definitely makes it stand out, but overall the car looks like a warmed over camry or ES350. In fact, it reminds more of the ES more than the CC or anything else.
  • With regard to the Sonata-Regal comparison, here's my take:
    Ihave driven the plain jane Sonata and the Turbo and I have also driven the Regal. If you are on a tight budget I'd suggest the Sonata, If U can afford a little more, go with the Regal, It's a better car. I have the same dilemma. Lease on a Sonata in NYC is between $179 and $199.00 for a 36 month lease. The lease on a Regal is between $279 amd $291 for a 36 month lease. That $80.00 difference is a major factor for most people.
    what I am looking for on this forum is if people are having problems with their Regal, U know those minor nuisance problems that are not major but just irritating. As I write a dealer just called me to offer me a deal on the Regal
  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    No, you keep calling the Infiniti brand Infinity. The last post you said Infinity G25. You made no mention of the Sonata audio system until now nor do I have any clue as to its audio system name. I was just making the point that a Infinity G25 does not exist. :P
  • White exterior/cashmere interior/sunroof.
  • Probably Nissan had trademark issue with Infinity and decided to change one letter. Using brand names like Infiniti is normal among Asian manufacturers. E.g. Brillian is Chinese TV maker.

    I actually compared Infinity audio system in Sonata to Buick's base audio in my comparison test post and said Buick's sounds better. But it may be that FM radio (or XM radio) is not a quality in Hyundai. But it does not sound clean regardless of reason.

    Infiniti G25 is something more relevant to compare Regal with and I am going to do that.
  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    Thank you for finally calling it by its proper name. I appreciate it!
  • you're telling me the lease gap is $80 per month on a loaded Sonata vs Regal CXL? Which model Sonata did you get a quote on? GM is offering a bonus of $1000 to existing GMC, Olds and Buick.
  • No, a regular Sonata vs the Buick CXL RL2 package.
  • You mean the difference of a $21,000 dollar Sonata and a $28,000 dollar Regal.
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