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Ford Crown Victoria and Mercury Grand Marquis



  • A class action suit against Ford has been settled that will reimburse owners of 1996 -2001 Grand Marq's who have had trouble- see link below - tou must act within the dates specified:
  • All of those repairs sound about right - it's the amount of the bill that seems mighty high. The car is 10 years old, which is well within the range of when those parts need replacing. The only repair that would be difficult for someone with average mechanical ability would be the o-2 sensors. I realize it is easy to say after someone does the diagnosis.

    One advantage of the Panther platform is it is well known, little changed design in the last 15 years that has little on it that would stump most mechanics. Nearly any independent garage can fix them relatively easily. I'd avoid the dealer and build a relationship with a well respected independent.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,425
    Attn: Crankshaft and jsylvester.

    Thank you for your input. Part of the bill I did not mention was the Sales Tax of $50 plus a $7 charge for rags & such. In the process of paying, I asked if the bill included the "Sr. Citizen" discount. It didn't so they refigured and deducted 10% of the parts bill.

    I agree the plugs, wires, filter, & maybe the o2 sensor needed or would have soon needed to be replaced. By doing so, the dealer prevented an early "Comeback" who would proclaim, "I just had it in here. Why didn't you repair it right the first time."

    Finding the well respected independent mechanic is on my list.

    Again, Thank you for your replies and opinions. :)
  • I have a 1992 Ford Crown Vic and the airbag light is flashing. It flashes 5 times pauses then once and pauses,then starts over and over and over all the time. What does this code mean ? Is my airbag good ? Do I have a sensor out? Caqn I buy something to fix it myself????? Thank You :confuse:
  • I have a 1992 Ford Crown Vic and the airbag light is flashing. It flashes 5 times pauses then once and pauses,then starts over and over and over all the time. What does this code mean ? Is my airbag good ? Do I have a sensor out? Can I buy something to fix it myself????? Thank You :confuse:
  • gkarggkarg Posts: 230
    The funny thing about this forum - is that there are a lot of questions being asked - and noone to answer them...

    I just picked up a 97 Grand Marquis thru Ebay and am very pleased with the vehicle. This was one gamble that paid off!

    Issues that hopefully someone can address with a suggestion:

    1.) The front amber parking lights on the corners (between the low beam and cornering lamp) - My doesn't flash with the turn signal and I'm thinking it probably should. (If it should - any ideas as to why it isn't?)

    2.) My hazards do not work - whether the car is running or not.

    3.) The auto dimming rear view mirror doesn't work - as if it isn't getting power (much like hazards.) That was a pain this morning - especially since it was dark/rainy this morning on my a.m. commute.

    Any help is appreciated.

    Flashing airbag: My brother has a 93 Taurus that did the same thing. They never fixed it - just got used to it flashing. I'm sure that is not the answer you seek. My guess is corrosion on one of the sensors or something sensor related.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,425
    and noone to answer them...

    There are more questions than answers because most of us do not have SAE designations behind our name, but when we do have a solution based on personal experience, it is usually forthcoming and shared.

    Euphonium, BA :)
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 11,000
    open up the hood. do the wires look new? pull one the wires from a spark plug (carefully!). does the plug look new(no dark ring around where the boot for the wire ended?) if yes, it looks like they did what they said they did.
  • harmar2harmar2 Posts: 36
    1) My '00 corner/marker lights do NOT flash. Only the inside ones, next to the grille, are turn signals. Not sure about your year, though.
    2) Have you checked your fuses?
    3) There is very little noticeable difference between day and night RVM on mine. The only noticeable difference in mine is night view "darkens" lights from the rear. They still bother me if I let them.

    Good luck.
  • joe3716joe3716 Posts: 15
    My 99 GM stalling problem is back again after Aug/04,Feb & July/05 visits to the dealerships. This time, it cranked, starts & able to maintain a very fast rough idle but stalls when the foot comes off the gas. Check Engine light stays on during fast rough idle and don't go out.

    Had the car towed to the dealership and they determined a faulty "idle air control valve" which they replaced. Seemed they have fixed the problem this time - even the brake pedal comes up a little too - perhaps without the vacuum leak?

    Love the GM, its shape and size. Too many vehicles slows down on the freeway whenever I approach - when they see the driver is not in uniform and the plate is not CA exempt etc, they sped away so fast....
  • gkarggkarg Posts: 230
    Thanks for your help folks. I guess it seems weird the the corner lights wouldn't flash. That is usually how you tell when a car is turning when you approach from the side. Weird...

    I pulled all of the fuses in the interior. I guess I should check the fuses in the engine bay.

  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,425
    3.) The auto dimming rear view mirror doesn't work - as if it isn't getting power (much like hazards.) That was a pain this morning - especially since it was dark/rainy this morning on my a.m. commute.

    Examine the back of the mirror facing the windshield. If you locate a sensor - eye cover the whole sensor with black electrician's tape. Covering the sensor blocks out other outside lighting and that sensor picking up the outside light diminishes the effectiveness of the darkening. :)

    In checking the Hazard lights - do your Brake lights work? If brake lights work, I'd gamble it is in need of a turn signal switch.
  • My 2000 Grand Marquis was recently clipped by a 18-wheeler in downtown Birmingham. His rear trailer tires took off the driver side mirror and left rubber marks the length of the car. I found a replacement mirror but am having a problem locating the chrome strips for moulding on both doors. Does anyone know some web sites where I might locate these? I would appreciate it. (havehadit)
  • harmar2harmar2 Posts: 36
    My '99 Sable had the same stalling problem, and the fix was the same.

    I'm in MI, and the dark blue GM color fools drivers into thinking I'm a State Trooper. I like the color, but think I'll choose another next time.
  • harmar2harmar2 Posts: 36
    If you haven't tried salvage yards, look there first. Most are now hooked into a teletype sort of group and can locate them for you from far away places, then have them shipped to your local yard. Two caveats: 1) make sure you can refuse to accept them if, upon seeing them, they are damaged or not exactly like yours, and 2) get an agreed price before you send for them. Good luck!
  • Seeing how the exterior has not changed since 1998, used parts are plentiful, and easy to obtain, especially with all the law enforcement vehicles being junked.
  • heart2heart2 Posts: 38
    "98 GM with 92K miles very well maintained. CEL steadily on for last week. Car running fine. Anyone know what is most likely bad part before I go to dealer for diag. test as it is out of all warranties?
  • jefferygjefferyg Posts: 418
    Check your gas cap first. If it's loose it may be causing it to come on. There are 1001 things that can cause the check engine light to come on in any car and most are not serious problems to fix.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,425
    You might check the coolant level when it's cold. Could be an 02 sensor. If it's not running rough, it isn't too expensive to fix.
  • I just purchased a 2000 GM LS with 37,345 miles paid 6623 car is in great shape looks brand new.

    Whats the proper tire pressurer for this year?

    Thanks in advance.
  • I go by what is on the tire itself, but usually drop 5 lbs or so off of it's max pressure, unless you still have the original tires from the factory.

    Congrats on the purchase - gas prices have made them even better deals.
  • I have a 1994 GM that does the same thing. No, your airbags do not work. This is code 51, which is a short in your airbag sensor wires. It may not be a cheap fix, and definitely not something to tackle yourself. I have been living with the flashing light for almost 2 years because my mechanic can't tell me how much it will cost to fix it. Could be a lot, could be a little. It all depends on how long it takes them to find the short. Once they do, they must install a new sensor, and any kind of sensor is always expensive. They said it doesn't make sense to just install a new sensor, because the short in the wires will just destroy the new sensor. They must find and fix the short first. My car has 203k miles on it, so I haven't been willing to put out the money on this problem. I have a new Camry I drive on long trips, so the GM light just keeps flashing away. It was very annoying at first, but now I don't even notice it.
  • I had the same issue on a 92 Miata - I sold the car with the airbag light flashing.

    If I was not concerned about the airbag going off for no reason, I'd just either pull the bulb for the warning light, or put a piece of electrical tape over it on the dash.

    Airbags supposidely have only about a 15 year life. That being said, below is the list for the airbag warning light codes. Maybe yours is code 51 (5 flashes followed by one), which could be a blown fuse?

    No Indicator - Inoperative Lamp Circuit or No Ignition Voltage to Diagnostic Monitor
    Continuous Indicator - Diagnostic Monitor Disconnected or Inoperative
    12 - Low Battery Voltage
    13 - Air Bag or Crash Sensor Circuit Shorted to Ground
    21 - Safing Sensor Not Mounted to Vehicle Properly
    22 - Safing Sensor Output Circuit Shorted to Battery Voltage
    23 - Safing Sensor Input Feed/Return Circuit Open
    24 - Safing Sensor Output Feed/Return Circuit Open or Low Resistance in a Primary Crash Sensor
    32 - Driver Side Air Bag Circuit High Resistance or Open
    33 - Passenger Side Air Bag Circuit High Resistance or Open
    34 - Driver Side Air Bag Circuit Low Resistance or Shorted
    35 - Passenger Side Air Bag Circuit Low Resistance or Shorted
    41 - Primary Crash Sensor Circuits High Resistance or Open
    44 - RH Radiator Primary Crash Sensor Not Mounted to Vehicle Properly
    45 - Circuit Going to RH Radiator Ground Monitor Splice Open
    46 - LH Radiator Primary Crash Sensor Not Mounted to Vehicle Properly
    51 - Diagnostic Monitor Internal Thermal Fuse Blown and Short to Ground No Longer Exists. Short to Ground was Serviced or is Intermittent
    52 - Back-up Power Supply Voltage Boost Fault
    53 - Internal Diagnostic Monitor Fault
    Rapid Continuous Flashing - All Primary Crash Sensors Disconnected
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,996
    A reporter from a major daily newspaper would like to speak with shoppers/buyers of Mercury vehicles, preferably ones who live/bought in Michigan.

    Please respond to by Friday, Nov. 4, 2005 with your daytime contact information and city of residence.


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  • crankshaftcrankshaft OHIOPosts: 105
    if you look within one of the door jams you will find the decal listing the correct pressure for your vehicle.
  • My specs are on the dogleg inside the RR door. 32 psi when cold. I keep them, though, at 34 - 36. That gives a slightly noisier, stiffer ride, but slightly better gas mileage. No noticeable unusual tire wear with the higher psi.
  • Hi. I keep my 99 GM Michelin at 42psi all around. The ride is firmer and perhaps a little noisier,a little harder on the suspension system but the vehicle rides more steady, steers and corners so much better.
    Fuel economy is great and you can feel the minimal rolling resistance.
    Understand all the racing vehicles on the speedways have their tires at much higher psi - 50 psi or up?
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,703
    label says 35 psi cold front and rear...max tire pressure on the tire says 45 psi...I run at 38 psi cold, allowing me at least 6 psi loss and still be in reasonable range, plus car rides a little firmer, how I like it to ride...
  • After I heard the ripped of carbon canister dragging on the ground I removed it and tied up the loose hoses ... what should I do next? Can I leave it this way for a week or two without hurting my car? 26K miles v-8

    I am doing FEMA disaster work in New Orleans and have a minimum of tools with me but I do have my Snap-on diagnostic computer.

    an help or suggestions is welcome.
    ?should I plug the hoses?
    ?should I connect them?
    ?should I plug one and leave one open?

    my soleniod valve broke and the shild was bent bt I fixed it Can this unit be relocated like into the trunk? New Orleans roads are in terrible condition so a repeat is likely to happen.

    Flats from nails are very common occurance to us disaster inspectors. Road hazards and broken pavement are common.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,425
    Wish I had the answers, but as you are in NO as an inspector, I have to ask.....

    Considering the extent of destruction, quality of structures before it was laid waste,and located significantly below sea level, is it reasonable and prudent to rebuild - creating another target for the next hurricane?
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