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Dodge/Plymouth Neon

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  • 150yr150yr Posts: 2
    Yes, I've been wondering the same thing. My 2000 Neon has 4000 miles on it, about half being interstate miles. The mileage has consistently been at 26-29 mpg's, although I recently cracked 30 mpg. I was told by a friend that Dodges are not known for wonderful mileage ratings, and that all I can do is save gas by not peeling out at stoplights and by using cruise control. Certainly there must be more I can do. What gives?
  • ktondraktondra Posts: 4
    Do you have an automatic?

    The MPG has also been kind of an issue with our 2000 Neon (Auto) as well. My wife drives the car and mainly it is for a bunch of short distances (example: to and from work, etc.). I wouldn't mind seeing better MPG as well.

    He said once the oil is changed (Dodge uses some sort of special break-in (?) oil at the manufacturer, it should do a little better. He also said the car should do do better and better the more it is broken in (how long does that take?) ....
  • 150yr150yr Posts: 2
    Yes, my Neon is an automatic (oh well!), and it did have the oil change right before I got 30 mpg. So perhaps it is getting "broken in". My only other complaint is that a short person like me has trouble seeing out the back for lane changes on the freeway. Other than that, I think I got the best car for my $$. It's peppy, cute, and the bugs found in the previous Neons have been worked out (Or so I hear....)
  • hersbirdhersbird Posts: 323
    My mileage on my 98 took about 2000-3000 miles to improve. It is a manual and can range from 25MPG around town with lead foot (my Jeep GC only gets 10mpg in the same situation) to 42MPG on long interstate trips keeping speed around 60 mph. If I increase speed to 75 or more the mileage will go to 30-35 MPG. This is the DOHC motor with the 5 speed manual. I also disagree about ability to spin tires, my Neon will spin thru 3 gears halfway down the block, this goes back to the 25 MPG thing.
  • ktondraktondra Posts: 4
    We are really happy with our Neon as well; also agree you can't beat the price.

    It's good to hear from people like yourselves about your experiences with MPG. We have an automatic as well, and like I mentioned before, are hoping we do a little better in the MPG area (we have about 1600 miles on it).

    I am glad MPG is getting some quality attention on this topic list, and am looking forward to hearing more ....
  • Hi, I'm strongly considering getting a used Neon to replace my old and expensive to repair '87 Toyota Supra Turbo. I've found a very good '95 Dodge Neon Sport Coupe. It only has 49000 miles and has a CD player also. I can get it for $5500, and it's in great condition. All I'd like to know is some general information that you can share with me regarding '95 Neons and what to look for...the good and bad.
  • seanrasseanras Posts: 1
    Hey silenceraz, we own a 95' neon. It has been great, we've had it about 2 years. We got it with about 40k on it. One major problem, head gasket failure. The 95' through 99' neon's have a badly manufactured head, too large a bore size I think. The head gaskets go out and are almost impossible to repair. Ours just went and they may have to replace the head or even the engin block. The second option is more expensive than the car was. Bottom line, great car but not so great after about 40k (ours now has around 80k).
  • hijinxhijinx Posts: 7
    I own a 95 highline sedan and it has been about 95% trouble free. The engine has been perfect through 84,200 miles (bought it with 39k). The 5% off comes from the currently dead a/c compressor and my front passenger window, which is slightly misaligned and thus gives off lots of wind noise. (That's minor. The a/c isn't.)

    The good: great kick to drive, great space, comfortable.

    The bad: not as refined as the 98s on. Watch the head gasket!

    I'd recommend checking the VIN with CarFax, and checking the price against Edmund's guide.

    Paul
  • Just wanted to let you all know...my 2000 Neon has nearly 27,000 miles on it now. The best mpg I've ever gotten with it was 27. The worst was 20. It usually averages around 25. The majority of my driving is highway/interstate. I don't think "breaking it in" is going to make a difference!
  • hersbirdhersbird Posts: 323
    was just that a gasket problem, it had nothing to do with the head or block. They didn't change the head or block design just the gasket. The new gasket is fine and will make an old neon fine as well. Head and block problems can develop after the gasket fails as you loose coolant and or oil wich if continued to be driven will destroy the whole thing. Chrysler is fixing the old head gaskets out of warrenty for $100. The 95 you are looking at may have the original gasket still or if it was replaced before mid 1998 it may still have gotten the old design. Even if you had to pay the whole cost of a head gasket replacement on a neon it would be less then the common distributer failure 95 Hondas suffer from, even if you just bought the parts for the Honda and put it in yourself.
  • copperhead1copperhead1 Posts: 157
    Front pads problem,tell your dealer to service them.
  • Thanks for your responses. I got the Neon and it was actually a '97 not a '95. It has the new style head gasket on it and is in almost perfect condition. Driving it around is a real blast!!! I am so surprised by this car. I already have a bunch of stuff planed for it ... like ... 16x7 rims, Progress springs, Iceman air intake, Thermal exhaust, AFX UDP ... :) I'm all giddy ... ;)
  • Hey dudes. Can anyone tell me how much horsepower and torque gain i can get by installing the ICEMAN Air Induction system? Also how much is it? I dont think it was that much last time i checked, but I want to know if I can get my R/T to close to 160 horsepower, without spending lots of billz. Thankz
  • Hey, checkout these sites and decide for yourself ->

    http://www.neons.org/ -> plenty of info on all the Neon mods, check out the boards

    http://www.neoncars.com/ -> carries the Iceman for $199.00

    http://www.howellautomotive.com/ -> also carries the Iceman and many other mods

    The Iceman is good for anywhere from 5 to 10 HP gains, although the biggest gains are for the SOHC engine.

    Some type of air intake upgrade is often the first mod most people do to thier Neons, it's a cheap and easy upgrade with no negative effects.

    The next upgrade is the underdrive pulley, this is also good for 5 to 10 HP increase and runs $180.00 for the AF/X model. Although harder to install and requireing a special tool to install, this upgrade is an easy HP booster like the Iceman. Also, it lowers the power draw from car accessories, mainly the A/C.

    Anywho...check out the sites, tons of cool stuff for Neons that aren't too bad on the pocketbook.
  • jr1drjr1dr Posts: 5
    I've got a '97 DOHC 5 speed manual. It's been a great car...so far. I've had wheel balance problems on the front and I'm waiting for that gasket to blow. I've gotten approx 40 mpg on the open road at 80mph. If you have bought one already check to see if it has a rear anti sway bar. I put one on mine and love it.
  • ktondraktondra Posts: 4
    Thanks for your reply, "copperhead".

    The dealer seems to think it is the hub caps ... they are ordering new ones.

    He told me if it still made the noise after they tightened them, they would order new ones.

    That's where I stand ... what makes you think it is the pads (I'm interested)?
  • tellietellie Posts: 3
    This past fall (oct.99) my husband and I purchased a neon 2000...In the first three weeks, we had to have the power steering pump replaced...Since then we have had it in the shop on several occasions...We have had 2 oil changes so far...now this past week it has been in the shop all week...We found that there has been a terible vibration while driving or sitting at traffic lights...The idle is very low too...we also find the car to be very "electrifing"..there seems to be a short somewhere that keeps the car giving us shocks when we get out...we have taken it to the shop to have it looked at and they didn't seem to find anything..but then again I don't think they really looked at it carefully...So I took the mechanic out for a test ride with me...we have since found out that the car needs to have the motor mounts replaced due to the vibrations we felt...and the computer needs to be replace due to the fact that it has been reclibrated (according to the mechanic) but never solved the problem..so needless to say they are replacing the computer..as for the electric shock we get they have no clue on to why it happens...This past fall when we bought this new "reliable" car..we were hoping not to spend as much time in the shop as we have so far..As to the gas mileage it has been great...the comfort is great too...so far it has taken us 12000kms and hopefully a lot more...if anyone has heard of anything about what I have written and know what we can do beside grin and bare it please contact me at: c_hadwen@hotmail.com

    it is greatly appreciated...thanks =)
  • Hmmm, sorry u are having these problems with the Neon. I have not heard of any of these problems occuring on the New 2000's or the old Neons. I think u just got a bad one. Most of the comments on the 2000's owners are usually great ones. Sorry
  • The problems you've described are very, very similiar to the ones I've experienced with my 2000 Neon in the last 12 months. I've had the power steering pump replaced and the motor mounts replaced twice. New motor mounts didn't help the vibration and idle. Next week it will be back in the shop. I'm tempted to tell DC to keep it till they can fix it right!
  • My 97 Neon has a problem where when you go to get
    out and touch the metal of the door it will shock
    the heck out of you. I think it is a short in the
    speaker wire or something because my speaker in my
    passenger door seems to have a lot of static. I am not sure what I am going to do about this problem.
  • The Electric problems above are not the only problems I have had with this car, Turned out the radiator cracked on it after driving 3000 miles and the head gasket blew. Supposedly it had the updated gasket too. I am now pretty leery about this car, and don't know if I want to keep it.
  • tellietellie Posts: 3
    Well we finally got our car back from the shop after them having it for a week...they replaced one motor mount with a new one...they also found a belt that runs the power steering pump and the a/c+ heat fan...it was all cracked and chewed up...so they had one shipped in from out of town...I still find that there is a vibration still but it is not quite as rough as before....I also found out that the power stearing pump was what the dealer called a "bulletin." meaning that is an information sheet about possiblities of problems only to the dealer and mechanics...NOT to the general public...We spent a good part of the afternoon talking to the owner and mechanics....Sometimes I get frustrated telling people what is wrong with the car and them looking at me like I have another head protuding out of the side on my neck...I know that I am not a mechanic but driving the car and knowing my car I should know what is wrong with it....my husband laughs sometimes but he knows I am not wrong..I have been dead on with everything so far...=)..Anyway..we are happy right now we have a running car again...=)

    thanks

    Robson
  • gabigirlgabigirl Posts: 1
    The first car I bought for myself! My '96 Neon, named Maxine. Shortly after I got her, there was a recall on something called the "front end wiring harness". Had it replaced under the recall, and 3 times more since then. She gets good mileage, I'll say that, and she shifts well (5-speed). the AC really kills the mileage. Then my trunk leaked, destroying rather a bit of my stuff I had in there. It was allegedly fixed, but they hadn;'t fixed the right thing. It leaked again. It's fixed now. Just over 30,000 miles, the head gasket went. It went again, this past January, at 64,000 miles, and necessitated a new head as well. I am unfortunately not impressed. My parents have never had this kind of problem - they are still running their '89 Horizon! It has over 450,000 miles on it, starts up every time you turn the key. I wouldn't take it on a road trip, but it gets Ma to work, 10 miles away. My car is cute, has nice features, and gets good mileage, but I have been frustrated enough so that I seriously doubt that my next purchase will be anything from that corporation.....
  • hersbirdhersbird Posts: 323
    were not fixed until mid 98. If you have a 97 neon that has not had the head gasket replaced since mid 98 then it doesn't have the updated design. Same thing goes if you had a 97 since it was new and the gasket blew at 30000 miles, it was the old design. The bulletins you all talk about are called TSB's and you can get a list off all neon TSB's at www.neons.org all makes of cars have TSB's issued on them its not some chrysler secret. I'll say it again if you want really good solutions to problems about all thing neon go to www.neons.org and will find much more accurate info them some people put out here.
  • Greetings. I am new to this group and am considering buying a neon after 10 years of driving nissans. While the new sentra is appealing, the neon seems like a better value. Still, the 140hp engine in the sentra sure does make it tempting. So, here is my question...

    I have heard that the Neon will once again feature the 150hp DOHC engine as an option beginning this summer. Anyone else know anything about this? A more powerful neon could most certainly be my next car!
  • 71charger71charger Posts: 116
    2000 Neon 5 spd is returning 28.2 to 28.7mpg consistently in mixed city/hwy driving about 45/55 ratio. As for electric shocks, if it were a wiring problem you wouldn't be getting it with the car shut off. I read somewhere, one of these newspaper car columns, of someone with the same complaint on their (I think) Toyota. The response was that it had to do with the tires not having something in the compound (possibly carbon black) any more that used to conduct electricity and ground the car. This keeps the static charge built up and when you touch the door to get out, wham. Happens with our Cherokee real bad. Only once in a while with the Neon. Maybe a pile of crap, I don't know, but that's what they said.
  • hersbirdhersbird Posts: 323
    it will not be a DOHC motor in the neon R/T coming soon, it is 150 HP version of the current motor. The biggest difference between the old DOHC motor and SOHC motor was the muffler. Just swapping the DOHC muffler to an SOHC car made the HP difference equal until over 4500 RPM when the DOHC car would make an extra 10 HP. The new R?T motor will be much better. As reported at www.car-truck.com :

    "The new SOHC 2.0-liter will produce increased speed by delivering higher torque at lower RPM than the DOHC engine it replaces. The R/T uses a new intake manifold that has a second set of intake runners and an electrically operated set of butterfly valves. The manifold keeps the low end torque up, while still offering high rpm operation. A new tubular exhaust manifold will also boost performance."

    That boost in the low end as well as the high end should make for an impressive Neon.
  • hersbirdhersbird Posts: 323
    The R/T is a 2001 model and the actual release date is not yet set as far as I've heard.
  • 71charger71charger Posts: 116
    Title says it all. Goes back to the 67 (I think)
    Coronet.
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