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Dodge/Plymouth Neon

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  • toyotas1toyotas1 Posts: 134
    Have had silver 2000 neon es for 2 years (and 3 accidents!), and it is a KICK [non-permissible content removed] RIDE! Stick shift, factory 15's. Get many compliments on it's curb appeal. People think it is much more expensive! Gets 29-30mpg hiwy, 22-23 city. I drive like a "good" NY cabbie, so gas suffers. SRT-4 looks sweet, but I will be drivin RSX Type-s this summer cus I need more resale and a more prestigious plate. Can't drive dodges forever! America done good, though! I'll never through a stone at Chrysler anyway!
  • Consider yourself lucky.. I traded my 98 neon sport in at a loss.. just to get out of the nightmare.. Chrysler hasnt a clue how to build a car.. with maybe the exception of yours?..I had my car for 3 years.. almost the entire cars works were replaced..including the transmission at a year.. each repair under warranty was a struggle with chrysler.. that ended in a letter from them saying 'we dont care..you bought it..its your problem now'... ok..im paraphrasing.. I wasnt shocked at all to hear that they are dropping the neon line.. its a cute car.. as long as you dont actually need to drive it anywhere!!
  • Where did you hear that the Neon line is getting dropped? Certainly not this year, as they are already planning for 2003 models. You seem to have had a bad experience, but don't think it is the experience of the majority. I've driven exclusively Chysler products for the past 12 years, and have driven each at least 100,000 miles. The current one is a 2000 Neon, and my second one at that. It has 50,000 miles on it, all trouble free. A couple months ago, I used it on 2600 mile business trip. Took only 84 dollars worth of gas, averaging 36 mpg including the WV mountains. I've been very pleased with this car, and the other 3 Chryler cars I've owned('90 Sundance, 94 Neon, and 97 Intrepid).
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    The Neon is not getting dropped, but the Plymouth model is. Maybe that's what she meant in a roundabout way.
  • enetheneth Posts: 285
    The Neon will be dropped in a couple of years, replaced by a rebadged Mitsubishi Lancer - Hyundai Elantra model - that much Chrysler Group has confirmed.
  • lisabufflisabuff Posts: 13
    Yeah I had heard the news from a relative who delivers the things.. they really are bad news. I feel happy when people say they ones that actually work but considering I was getting form letters back from Chrysler I dont think mine was an isolated bad apple. I wouldnt have been as disappointed by the whole thing (since eventually I got them to fix things under warranty), but the attitude was so bad. Ya know, maybe Chrysler needs to learn a few people skills?!! The only thing that saved me was my dealership.. but even they could only go so far. I got rid of the thing because I wanted a car I could actually take on a trip! You know..one that gets there!
  • 71charger71charger Posts: 116
    I just went over 28,000 miles on my 2000 ES. I've had it for 25 months. I've had two small problems. The door jamb switches that turn the dome light off both went bad. I think my daughter closed the driver's door hard on something killing that one but the passenger side was just a defective switch. The dealer could not have been nicer and they changed my oil and filter for 20 bucks while it was in. Every company makes lemons. The last I saw all the major manufacturers were in a virtual dead heat as far as initial problems reported. I think they've had to push it out and report on problems per thousands of cars now instead of hundreds back in the eighties. I think the Neon, in it's current form, is a stylish, sporty, and high quality small car. To give Chrysler and Ford credit at least you know when you're looking at a Neon or a Focus. See the competitors from a distance and most people don't know if they're looking at a Honda or a Toyota or a Nissan or a Mazda.
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    "To give Chrysler and Ford credit at least you know when you're looking at a Neon or a Focus. See the competitors from a distance and most people don't know if they're looking at a Honda or a Toyota or a Nissan or a Mazda."
    by 71charger


    I can always tell the difference between small Japanese Sedans and Domestic Sedans! The Ford Foci and Dodge Neons are hooked up to tow trucks and the Japanese sedans are zooming down the road.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    That's not always true. I mean there are good and bad cars of all brands built out there. Some are worse than others, but buying a new car is part of a gamble. I would say the Neons and Foci are less reliable than the Japanese makes though. Any auto publication will tell you that much.
  • lisabufflisabuff Posts: 13
    are you kidding?? a neon is more reliable than a say a nissan or toyota??! No way! My old subaru didnt need a repair until it was 7 years old.. my neon.. I dont think it made it 30 days!! the simple fact that Chrysler is nixing the line just shows that they know they have a loser. Its really too bad though..would be nice to have an american car and the neons are cute.. but cute doesnt get you home on a snowy night! Im with Larry..
  • rassom1rassom1 Posts: 35
    If you think Neons are bad cars, just read what is being said about the sludge problem on the Toyota's.

    Could be 3,000,000 affected.

    Every manufacturer has its problems.
  • 71charger71charger Posts: 116
    Having never seen a 70s or 80s Japanese car that didn't disintegrate into iron oxide in less than five years but never heard anyone complain about it I don't understand the Japanese autos as demi-gods mindset. When I bought my Neon I had narrowed the field to three cars (Neon, Focus, Protege). I just couldn't live with the styling of the Focus and thought the interior of the Protege just screamed CHEAP (although it could have been the color making it seem so). I drove the Neon and loved it. Funny how BMW chose to partner with Chryler on engines for the new mini and how the same 2.0 was used in Neon and Eclipse but, of course, the Eclipse is higher quality being Japanese. Chrysler spends next to nothing on magazine advertising compared to its competitors (or so I'm told) so they get treatment in the automotive press commensurate with what they spend. No model intro on the French Riviera (ala the new Tiburon) or other such things. I think most people are sheep. The automotive press (subjective they're not) say Japanese cars are better so they must be. Have I owned Japanese, yes. Will I again, probably. But I don't automatically assume they're going to be better. Open your eyes to the possibility that the quality of small American made cars has caught up. Stop automatically paying whatever the Toyota or Honda dealer tell you you're going to pay and look around some more.

    Look at GMC. They figured out that the public perceived their trucks as being better made than Chevys. Some people polled even said that GMCs used thicker sheet metal. Never mind that they are assembled on the same line by the same people. Now GMC is capitalizing on this with their "Professional Grade" campaign.

    Enough ranting for now.
  • 71charger71charger Posts: 116
    Meant to say "objective they're not"
  • lisabufflisabuff Posts: 13
    I agree that the neon is a cute car.. I loved it because it was cute and when it worked it was fun to drive.. but nothing in my mind will convince me that Chrysler has a clue..why? CUSTOMER SERVICE.. how do you kill a customer's interest.. bad customer service.. the simple fact that I had a transmission problem that put me in danger on the highway (literally) and Chrysler dragged their feet for almost a year and at one point I was told 'it stalls on the thruway?.. we dont see that being a problem'!! WHAT? a good customer is a dead customer??!! Sorry..say what you want.. I prefer a company that likes me alive.

    Ill stop ranting now.. I've said my peace!
  • buoyantbuoyant Posts: 128
    I believe the last JD Power survey I saw had the Neon coming in with fewer problems than several Japanese makes - the Protege, Sentra and Civic (yes, Honda Civic).

    It's unfair to judge an automaker solely on its past mistakes. Yes, the 95-99 design was kind of a junkbox as far as quality is concerned, but the newer designed is much improved. I think some peoples' quests for vengeance here are clouding their reasoning.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I think it's funny when hearing about the 1995-99 Neons. My ex-roomate's ex-wife has a 1996 Dodge Neon Expresso with about 40K on it. The car has never given a day of problems (of course 40K in 6 years is hardly alot of driving). On the other hand, his 2000 Neon with 40K or so miles has been in the shop many, many times with different stuff all the time. Weird.
  • jsylvesterjsylvester Posts: 572
    My brother's 99 Neon Expresso is driven every day for commuting to work. The grand total of problems so far - one. The cigar lighter did not work when new.

    Incidental, yes. However, as cheap as they are used, I would buy one without too much hesistancy - checked out first of course.
  • snowmansnowman Posts: 540
    I used to be a loyal import driver mainly for Honda Accords and one time Civic. Now...? I am driving 2000 Taurus and my wife drives 2000 Neon. Both cars are performing very well. We paid 11.5K to Neon (ABS, CD, 4 Wheel Disc, Auto) and paid 12.7K for Taurus (it was demo car). Neon was at the shop for power steering pump-they took out bubbles from the system. That is all. Performance of Neon is awesome, fast and very responsive that you can only find in EX Civic for 17K or 18K. Taurus is very comfortable, strong nothing has been done except oil changes.
    Will I buy import again, Not likely. I don't want to dump my money for a car that I can easyly substitute with domestic counterparts.
    I believe that majority of the problems are caused by incompetent techs and mechanics even at dealers.
    For who bashes domestic brands constantly, I think they don't read Toyota's sludge, Accord and Civic problem topics. Honda and Toyota are still good cars BUT not as good as they used to be. And they don't deserve the price difference.
  • iowabigguyiowabigguy Posts: 552
    I have a new Neon R/T on order and have a question. I did not order any optional packages that show they include the Sentry Key. Does the 2002 Neon R/T package include the sentry key. I have gotten quotes from dealers from $40 to $60+ each for extra keys. Does anyone here have a 2002 R/T that can verify if it does or doesn't have the "sentry key". Thanks, Rick
    I'd check one on the lot but there are none to be found in the 5 dealers in the local area.
  • green_obgreen_ob Posts: 10
    I have a 95 Plymouth Neon Sport with 131K miles. About 3 years ago at about 100K I had all the oil leak / head gasket problems. It cost me about $2K for repairs including a new water pump and head.

    I was never aware that this was a common problem. Is there any chance of getting some kind of reimbursement from C-D at this point ? The work was done at a dealership (Stoneridge Chrysler in Dublin, CA) and I still have the work order /receipts. How should I go about getting some kind of refund ?

    thanks
    chris
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  • buoyantbuoyant Posts: 128
    You'd have better luck finding a well-maintained home in Spokane than you would getting any type of refund for those repairs today for 2 reasons: the repairs were made 3 years ago (last century) and the car had 100K on it at the time.

    It's your time, but I think any attempt to get money back now would be futile. Good luck though.
  • I have a 1996 plymouth neon with 60,000 miles and I just found out that the head gasket is leaking oil....a deja vue I believe! Since this is due to a defective design of the head gasket, has anyone managed to have Chrysler pay for the repair? If so, how? Is it a process where I am going to have to use my French?!! Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I think the warranty is 7 years or 100,000 miles. Go to http://www.lemonaidcars.com and click on "secret warranty" to read more about it.
  • cdornemacdornema Posts: 2
    Hi,
    I'm have an intermittent problem with the power windows in my 1998 coupe. The switches only work once out of a hundred tries, and when they work, they work just fine. I'm thinking bad relay or ground, not the switches. I think a relay is probably the culprit since it has been getting progressively worse. All three switches exhibit the same problem. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
    Thanks
  • 71charger71charger Posts: 116
    There isn't usually a relay in a power window circuit as power usually flows through a fairly substantial wire to the switch. You don't say which window. Is it just the passenger? Just the driver? Both? I don't have a wiring diagram for the Neons. The last power window system I had to trouble shoot was an 87 Shelby Lancer. It was the switch on that car. Same basic principle though. You're going to have to pull the driver's switch and veryify that there is power to it. If there is power to it and it still doesn't operate you'll have to use a jumper from the hot lead to power the window motor. If the motor actuates it's probably the switch. Power for the pass. window most probably flows through the driver's switch first. I don't know how Neon switches are constructed. But in the 80s you could take the switches apart, clean them, adjust the contacts, and make them as good as new. If your Neon is like the 2000 where only two windows are powered your job is two windows easier. Four power windows can be a b*&@#. A wiring diagram will be your best friend if you can get hold of one.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Even in the older Neons, only the front windows were powered. So it's easier. And the car, I think, was a 2-door anyway.
  • 71charger71charger Posts: 116
    If it is the switch and you're going to have to buy one any way, what the heck, pry it apart. Who knows maybe you'll get lucky and it will be like the ones in the 80s. Clean it and put it back together and give it a try. Lot's of the older cars had switches replaced that were repairable. But at dealer labor rates it's cheaper to plug in a new switch. DIY it's cheaper to try and fix the old one. If it breaks coming apart or you can't get it back together, who cares, you needed a new one anyway. Just a thought.
  • I am a college student who bought a dodge neon 96' in 2001 with 41000 miles on it for 4300$ drive out with warranty!!!
    I thought I had made made the best choice in my life.
    Year and half later and 2000$ later in maintance I am wondering how much longer I can keep up with the problems with this pile of junk!!! I had a Nissan maxima 92' before this which was owned by my brother and then me and right now it has 260,000 miles on it after 2 teenagers abusing it to the max and we have not spent more then 700$ maintanance in 10 years!!!! Now that is a car worth buying!!.
    I am not comparing the difference in hp or comfort or style just plain old maintanance!!! Right now after spending so much on the neon i still have my service engine light blinking and the oil light blinking(although the oil is filled). The ac just got messed up again!!! The brakes sqeaul!!
    Basically right now its just four wheels running and god know how much longer
    Stay as far as you can from this car.
    Also if any one know any good resanable mechanics in the Richardson,TX area pls send me an email. I am sick of seeing my mechanic over and over again, i feel like i stay there!!!!
    Thanks
    Skalinani
  • yositoyosito Posts: 55
    But my son has a 2001 R/T with no problems at all, my brother already owned 4 Neons, he had a 95, 96, 98, 2000 and next week he will be driving his 2002 Neon, he drives between 15 and 20,000 miles a year, and no problems with them.
    You better find another GOOD MECHANIC.
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