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Dodge Caravan/Chrysler Voyager

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  • badgerfanbadgerfan Posts: 1,565
    We just bought a GC SE with the 3.3L engine, and while it certainly will never win a drag race, it is entirely adequate for its normal people/family/stuff hauling useage. Plus, we saved some money over the SXT with the 3.8, but still got options that included the "essential features"-Stow and Go, three zone AC, power windows and locks, remote, tinted windows, etc.

    The EPA mileage is just a tidge better with the 3.3 than the 3.8, though whether better in the real world is probably questionable. Even if you could find "tuner" items for GC, these would all detract from fuel efficiency, which is more important these days than how fast you can get 0-60.
  • griff10griff10 Posts: 1
    I'm considering going with the GC SXT and am not sure about the optional trailer tow package. I currently have a ~3000lb tent trailer to pull. The reason that I'm not sure about it is that if I demand that option it will very much limit the number of GC's that I can choose from in my area.

    So, should I pass on the option and add the transmission cooler later or get the package? What are the pro's cons?

    Thanks,
    Steve
  • hayneldanhayneldan Posts: 657
    opt for the trailer package it contains a 600ah battery, load leveling rear suspension and the heavy duty engine cooling pkg, trailer wiring harness, as well as the trans cooler. The amount you pay now is a lot less than having it installed later.
  • just received DTC P0303 on my 2005 Grand Caravan SXT - 36500 miles - anyone else had this or similar problem
  • Does anybody know if the dealership will do a complete once over of my Grand Caravan before the 36k warranty is up and see if there are any warranty problems? My guess is no even though they get paid to replace anything under warranty. Do I need to take it to an independent person to look at it and if so, how much should I pay.
  • I don't think they will do a complete inspection on their own. (Now they might if you ask them.) If you have no warning lights on, no rattles, no drips under the van, everything electrical is working, AC/Heat works, the motor runs smooth and the trans. shifts smooth. You have nothing to worry about. The only things that would be of concern would be the suspension parts and brakes. Have them looked at for free at CarX or Madias. Remember, if you don't have a problem already, then you don't have a problem. Make sure to have the trans. maintenance done at a Daimlerchrysler dealership. For they are the only ones that have the correct fluid for your trans. :shades:
  • marine2marine2 Posts: 1,155
    Does anybody know if the dealership will do a complete once over of my Grand Caravan before the 36k warranty is up and see if there are any warranty problems? My guess is no even though they get paid to replace anything under warranty. Do I need to take it to an independent person to look at it and if so, how much should I pay.

    I was told to take my van in just before the warranty expires and have them check for anything that looks like it might need replacing. It might cost you an hour of labor charge, but if they find something that is about to need replacing and does it, you'll more than save money. If nothing wrong, you can feel at ease at least.
  • I live in Phoenix Arizona and my wife drives my daughter to school every morning and picks her up. The mileage one way is about 3-5 miles one way. The temps here in the summer are easily above 105 so when my wife gets to the school somethimes she has to idle with the ac on for about 10-15 minutes. All other trips that she makes are less then a couple of miles each way. What gas mileage would you expect a Grand Caravan to get with this sort of driving. I am curious. Does anybody else do this sort of driving? Also I change the oil with 5w-30 every 3k but want to know if I should change the regular oil every 3k or synthetic every 7500-10000. Which is better for the type of driving that I do?
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Under the above mentioned difficult service I'd be surprised if a Caravan would even get 15 mpg (probably less). Also, even with synthetic oil I wouldn't go 7,500 when driven under the above conditions without first performing an oil analysis or two to confirm the oil is still good for that long.

    Beset Regards,
    Shipo
  • marine2marine2 Posts: 1,155
    I also live in Phoenix and picked up my grand kids after school last year. But I always turned off my van and waited for them in the shade rather than let my van run all that time. Gas prices being what they are today, I don't think I'd want to pay for it just setting there idling. It's really not that bad in the shade.
  • What is the affect of living in Arizona and having 105+ temps and having a Dodge Grand Caravan 05 and my wife drives it to and from kindergarten about 4 miles each way everyday and all other trips are about 1-2 miles in length each way. Also when she gets to the school in the afternoon she idles the car with the ac on for about 10-15 minutes. Should I just use regular oil every 3k or synthetic every 10k. Does this type of driving affect the longevity of the engine and if so should I put slick 50 or some other additive in it or just keep to the old way of changing oil and maintaining the vehicle. Any thoughts would help
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Under the above conditions I'd be inclined to use either conventional oil for maybe 2,000 miles or Synthetic oil for no more than 5,000 miles.

    Yes, that type of engine operation will kill an engine before the miles on the odometer says it's time.

    Slick 50 is for chumps. It is absolute 100% snake oil and designed to prolong the financial life of the folks who make and sell it and nothing else.

    True story: Back when I worked for MB-USA, they had "donated" (actually they charged them $1.00 USD) a bullet proof limousine (converted from a 560SEL) to the U.N. for the purposes of carting the Secretary-General (then Boutros Boutros-Ghali) around while he was in New York. Due to the standing rules of how he was to be serviced, that car idled a lot. Guess what? After only 20,000 miles the top end of the engine was shot, forcing the car to be returned to Montvale for a rebuild of the top end of the engine.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • What do you all think about putting Resilone in a high mileage vehicle. I already put it in once and it quieted the valve lifters forever. Do you think it is beneficial to put it in. It is pretty cheap
  • I am looking at minivans but I need one that can handle driving on snowy mountain roads. I saw a GC with a traction control option and was wondering if anybody had experience driving in the snow with this? Will it get me up a steeper snow packed road or will I still need studded tires? Any first hand experiences would be greatly appreciated.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    "Will it get me up a steeper snow packed road or will I still need studded tires?"

    As the wise old sage once said, "It all depends."

    Our 2003 DGC ES has traction control, we live in southern New Hampshire (fairly hilly), our street has a 7.5% grade, our driveway has a 15% grade and some driveways on our street have over a 30% grade.

    With the OEM Bridgestone Turanzas that van was "okay" but nothing to write home about. Last fall I mounted Goodyear Assurance TripleTred tires and it went from "okay" to "okay". That having been said, it was still no match for my RWD sedan with traction control and full-on winter tires (Michelin Arctic-Alpin).

    Said another way, the 2003 has no problem with our street or our driveway with anything less than about 8" of snow, however, there ain't no way it's going to make it up any of the steeper driveways in our neighborhood (unless I go up in reverse), unlike my winter tire shod RWD car which just works its way right up the slope.

    Were I in your shoes I'd either look for a used DGC with the AWD system that had to be done away with so that DC could make the Stow-n-go system, or I'd get a van with the traction control and a separate set of winter tires (along with their own set of wheels).

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • Thank you for the good info on the traction control. I will be driving up to Breckenridge Colorado quite a bit this winter so I might have to invest in some snow tires. I'm not too thrilled about getting a used Dodge so I might have to look at other AWD alternatives. I really want a Subaru but I do like the space of the minivan. I don't think the road leading up to our place is more than 15% so maybe the DGC would work anyway.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    A DGC with Traction Control and a good set of winter tires will have no problem at all with 15% grades. What you might want to do is to wait for a good snow fall and arrange for an over-night test drive, and drive it home. If the van makes it with the factory rubber, then it will be child's play with winter tires.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • During the warranty period, we made 4 trips to the dealer when the airbag light came on. They were great, replacing clockspring, and doing various other remedial work on the airbag system. The light would always come back on, anywhere from 6 days to 6 months later, so back to the dealer we would go...

    In early '05 we came off warranty, and wouldn't you know it, the light comes on again. We go to see the dealer and (now that there's no warranty of course) they say we need to replace the airbag (shock and amazement!)..

    I didn't think airbags spoiled like mayonnaise at a 4th of July picnic, number one. AND, I suppose the "Warranty Is Over Timer" worked perfectly. Cost of dealing with airbag light issues while under warranty = $0.00. Cost of replacing a suspiciously timed "bad" airbag, about $1,300.

    the van's been great but for this issue - anybody feeling my pain?
    Tatt
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    I would just NOT replace the airbag. As long as you and your passenger wears your seat/shoulder belts you have more than sufficient protection. :shades:
  • lar4lar4 Posts: 6
    I just bought an 84 caravan with a 3 liter and a 4 speed overdrive tranny. All the parts boys(Lordco, Napa, Canadian Tire, etc.) can't find that year of van with that configuration any clues please let me know what I am dealing with. Yes all numbers match.... Thanks fo the response.

    Larry
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Something is very wrong with your information. In 1984 Dodge only used four cylinder engines and 3-speed transmissions. To the best of my knowledge, the 3.0 liter Mitsubishi V6 wasn't used in ANY Chrysler vehicle until 1988 and the 4-speed transmission wasn't released until 1989. As you can see, there is no way you have a "84 caravan with a 3 liter and a 4 speed overdrive tranny."

    So, what do you have? My bet is that you either have a 1994 Caravan with the 3.0 liter V6 and a 4-Speed transmission OR you have a 1984 with either a 2.2 (Chrysler) or a 2.6 liter (Mitsubishi) four cylinder engine with the old 3-Speed Automatic.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • lar4lar4 Posts: 6
    ok I ran the numbers with dodge and the insurance company pooched there paper work and it is an 88. leave it to the government to make a mess. the funny thing is I checked the tail lights and they even said 84 on them this van is confusing...ha ha ha thanks for the help..

    Larry
  • fish8fish8 Posts: 2,282
    If this van is equiped with a thrid brake light (introduced in '86) then it is a '88.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Hey gang, our much maligned (in the press and by Honda and Toyota lovers) 1998 DGC hit 125,000 miles today. Geez, when I took my current (supposedly six month) assignment in July of 2005 it only had 86,000 miles on the clock. Ouch. ;-)

    The good news is that this van is still as fast and fuel efficient as it has ever been and as reliable as any car I've ever owned. Not too shabby! :shades:

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    CONGRATULATIONS. My sister's 1986 Caravan had 170,000 trouble free miles on the odometer when they sold it to get a Ford Explorer to tow the large trailer her husband's parents gave them.
    She was VERY happy when they got a nice, used 2005 GC SE in April this year.
    I doubt that I will keep my 2006 Sienna LE long enough to accumulate 125,000 miles. :shades:
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Depending upon where my next assignment turns out to be, our 1998 could see 160,000 to 170,000 by the end of 2007 and an easy 200,000 by the end of 2008. In 2009 I'll have my oldest in Driver's Education and I'm thinking that the 1998 will make a great first car for both him and his younger sister. Who knows, maybe it'll see the far side of 250,000 miles before we finally send it on to greener pastures. ;-)
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    AGREE. There was a young man years ago writing in these forums who drove a Chrysler T&C to and from a private school many miles from his home. He was VERY happy to drive a T&C although many younger people prefer something more sporty. :shades:
  • thats cool!!! :shades:
  • I have Plymouth Grand Voyager 1999. I notice intermediate many electrical problem

    1. My passenger side door's window regular stop working

    2. Bigger problem is my lift gate lock remins in lock position not able to open i.e. can not close

    Any advice ?

    Thanks,
  • I have a 1999 Dodge Grand Carvan LE 2WD with traction control. When at rest, if one wheel starts spinning, traction control does not seem to have any effect and the wheel continues to spin even though the other wheel has traction and is stopped. I am told that this is the way it is designed and that traction control only works when the vehicle is moving and both wheels are turning. IE it is a moving vehicle control device not a stuck in the snow device. Can anyone confirm this?
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