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Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable Sedans Pre-2008

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  • gbonkgbonk Posts: 1
    I have just bought a '99 Taurus used, and I love it. The one question I have is this, however. The radio has controls for a cd changer. I am wondering if the cd changer from my old car will work. It is the Sanyo Expedio 10 disc changer. Should I just hook it up and hope for the best, or could something bad happen?
  • riswamiriswami Posts: 192
    I have a 97 L. There is a squeak/rattle coming from the front passenger door. I notice if I drop the window down a little it stops. Anyone else have this problem?
    Have the following questions:
    - Does the door panel come off easily?
    - Do you need special tools to get the door panel off?
    - Will spraying silicone or ID 40 help?

    Car has 58k and runs great. I wouldn't hesitate buying another.
  • Thanks for the great info.

    I just bought/my cd changer from (www.radiosandmore.com). They ship any order over $100 free. I put it in and tested the unit. It works great.
    I do not want to mount it in the bottom of the trunk and have mounted it on the underside of the package shelf. I just saved myself over $200 from what the dealer wanted.
    Thanks for your help.
  • I'm real glad it worked out for you. And it was a snap to install when it is the factory unit and comes with the factory wiring harness!

    gbonk - this is a much easier way to go and then you are guaranteed that the CD controls will work. See my message #621 for details of what I am talking about.
  • I haven't had this problem, but in answer to your question about getting the door panel off, no, you don't need any special tools to get the panel off. Just take a Philips head screwdriver and take out every screw you find (they are in the armrest, near the door handle and around the edges of the trim) and also unscrew the door lock trim (the little plastic piece that goes up and down and locks/unlocks the door - it just screws on and off). When they are all off, stick some kind of flat blade between the panel and the metal of the door and pry it up. Once you've got it started, finish pulling it off by hand. When you have it off, you'll see that it was held in place by about 8 or 10 white plastic trim fasteners that just push into holes in the door metal. My experience is that these are prone to break or "strip", but you can get replacements at most auto parts stores. I buy the Body-Tite! brand as they are exact replacements (Ford Panel/Trim retainers - part # 45476 - about $1 for 3 of them).

    Good luck!
  • riswamiriswami Posts: 192
    Thanks - will give it a try.
  • Anyone know how I can avoid having to pay $100 to my local rip-off Ford dealer for a replacement spare key for my wife's '96 SHO? They want $75 for "programming" and $25 per key, AND they want me to bring the car in for the day. This seems ridiculous to me - I read in a post on the SHOTimes site that it is possible to get a blank key from Ford and program it yourself. Anyone done this? It's the PATS system key.

    Thanks,

    Jonty Rees
  • I walked in to my local Ford dealer and in the showroom was a 1999 Taurus SE. They "found" out in the field. The sticker on it is 18k and it has ABS, Power Driver seat. What should I offer for this? There are asking 17k.
  • The blank key should cost about $25-$30. As long as you have 2 other keys that are already programmed and working for that car, you can program a third one yourself. The directions on how to do this should be in the owner's manual. If not, let me know and I can send you an e-mail with them.
  • I might be a great find, it might be a returned lemon. First thing to do is pay for one of those searchs to see if there are title problems (such as on the Kelly Blue Book Site http://www.kbb.com/carfax.html - sorry Edmond's!). Next, if they won't negotiate on the price (and I think what you quoted is high considering you can get a new one for only a little bit more), find something they will negotiate on: extended warranty (remember, the 36 month part of that warranty is already 24 months old - might be a problem later on, might not be), financing, oil changes, whatever! Also you need to remember that as soon as you drive it off the lot, you now own a 2 year old used car with all the depreciation that goes with that! If you intend to keep it, not a problem. If you don't want to keep it forever, what about leasing it? Any dealing they are willing to do there? Double check on the warranties that are not provided by Ford (like the tires). Are you going to be left "uncovered" in case of a problem there? Lastly, I'd have them change ALL the fluids and filters (oil, tranny, power steering, brake, etc) since the possibility of contamination from sitting so long is quite high. Have them lightly turn the brake rotors and drums too.

    Anyway, those are just my thoughts on how I would handle it. Good luck!
  • Try ebay, lately they have had the exact thing you need for cheap, I think the bids start at $10.00. Then look in the owners manual for programming. You dealer is a stealer, I got a replacement for just over $15.00, I didnt bother with programming cause i knew they would charge you an arm and a leg, just like they do with programming remotes for the cars. They were going to charge me $50.00 to program the remote, not when its in the owners manual. Thanks for letting me vent!!
  • sable93sable93 Posts: 107
    riswami,

    I have the exact same problem with my '97 GL. Glad you enjoy your Taurus overall. My experience with my '97 Taurus has me ready for something else...
  • riswamiriswami Posts: 192
    sable 93,

    Have you tried to fix your squeak? I understand why you wouldn't want another Taurus. Seems to me you've had more than your share of problems. How many miles on yours?
  • bobecookbobecook Posts: 1
    I'm now driving a 2000 Taurus SEL and regard it a big improvement over my '98 but am disappointed in two aspects of handling: dive & sway in fast cornering and lack of steering responsiveness, especially at speed, despite supposed variable assist power steering. Any recommendations on improving either feature? If it involves suspension or other parts, where do I find them?
  • scott153scott153 Posts: 6
    I have two 1996 Taurus GL sedans. I have had problems with the power windows on both cars since 25K miles (I now have 50K miles). There are times when I press the power window button and the window will not go down. The Ford dealer charges $350 to repair (replace motor). I am very frustrated and feel that the power windows should not be failing at these mileage levels. Has anybody else had similar problems? Any recommendations?
  • scott153scott153 Posts: 6
    I have a Taurus with 50K miles. I am considering purchasing an extended warranty (I only had the Ford warranty until 36K). Any recommendations? I am considering Autobytel's (1-Source?)Diamond 10 year/100K extended warranty plan for $1500. Does anybody have any experience with this extended warranty provider? Thanks!

    Scott
  • scott153scott153 Posts: 6
    I have a 1996 Taurus GL 3.0L with 50K miles which seems to be be burning oil (10W30) to the minimum level between 3K oil changes. Anybody else having a similar problem and what are you doing about it? Thanks!
  • riswamiriswami Posts: 192
    I have the Vulcan engine and have been changing the oil at 2k or 10 weeks. see a little consumption but not down to the minimum level. little consumption is o., although I've had cars that use absolutely zip. Running a synthetic right now. I may keep that oil in longer.

    How much oil are you adding when you change? The manual say 4.5 quarts with filter. Everyone, including the dealer tells me 5 quarts.
  • hockey2hockey2 Posts: 12
    Does anybody have any experience doing a brake job on a 97 Taurus with 4 wheel discs brakes with as?
    I did the front no problem .
    The rear wheels have a different piston and it looks like you rotate it back in similar to a Subaru I had. Do I need a tool? The car has 50k on it and the rear discs are not completely gone but I will need to change them in about 6k miles
    Any help would be great
  • ezaircon4jcezaircon4jc Posts: 793
    Are you sure about the rears. I have 100k on my '96 and the rears are fine. I did the front at about 85k due to a warped rotor. I figured that as I had the calipers off anyway, why not? I must've had at least 10k left on those pads. I was surprised at how well the OEM pads wore! When you do the back, please post your experience as one of these days I will need to do the back. Thanks.
    Michael
  • riswamiriswami Posts: 192
    What feedback where you getting due to warped rotors? Did you get a vibration in the sterring wheel when you hit the brakes at sppeds over 55?

    I've heard that the OEM rotors are junk and you should replace with new rotors and not have them machined. Did you get new front rotors?
  • hockey2hockey2 Posts: 12
    I looked at the rears they have about 1/8 maybe more on them. I just assume they need to be done.
    The reasoN I did the front was that the thinner the pads get the more chance for heat build up and the end result would be warped rotors.
  • shank6shank6 Posts: 64
    I just wanted to throw this out there for all the Taurus guys to see if anyone has encountered some of these problems :
    1) Re-glue rain gutter strips - 2500 miles
    2) Re-glue trunk gasket - 3200 miles
    3) Replace broken front strut - 8000 miles
    4) Replace fan blower motor - 8700 miles
    5) Have rotors machined - 13,000 miles
    6) Replace fan blower motor - 15,000 miles
    7) Replace rotors - 16,200 miles
    8) Replace fan blower motor - 22,000 miles

    Its going in next week for another blower motor believe it or not. This is Ford quality ? I bought this car new off the showroom floor!!!
  • ezaircon4jcezaircon4jc Posts: 793
    What year is your car? My '96 Sable has/had the blower noise. It is very intermientent. Ford FWD cars are notorious for eating front rotors. Most FWD cars will eat front rotors due to the massive amount of weight distributed to the front during braking. Hope this helps.
  • jontyreesjontyrees Posts: 159
    FYI - I ordered a couple of keys on Ebay, came to $13 + change apiece. Thanks for the advice - saved me approx. $100!

    Ebay tip if you need keys - there are auctions for "Taurus Transponder key", "Windstar....", Expedition...", etc. They are all the same key, but some will go for $12, some for $25 - wait until the auction is almost over before bidding, then bid on one that has not yet been bid on. That way, your price will not get pushed up by uneducated buyers.
  • shank6shank6 Posts: 64
    ez : My car is a 99 SE. Believe me, this car has been babied. The chirping from the fan motor or motors in this case, happens when it's re-circulating the air. My wife had this car going to and from work ( 8 miles ) before we got her a new 2000 Sable LS. That car rides so much quieter than the Taurus it's unbelievable the're from the same company. It has 30,000 on it now. Any other similar experiences ?
  • ezaircon4jcezaircon4jc Posts: 793
    I had the blower motor replaced twice for the chirp. Have you replaced the cabin air filter? I noticed that after I replaced mine the chirp went away, that is until the filter gets dirty again. The OM says something like 25 or 30k for the filter, however here in So Cal I need to replace it about every 10 to 15k. I get mine @ Pep Boys.
  • sable93sable93 Posts: 107
    riswami,

    My Taurus has 85,000 miles on it. It was a fleet car, evedently either not well maintained, or not well manufactured. Sorry about the long time for the reply. I've been really busy dealing with the dealership again. A week and a half ago, I began to notice that my car was leaking red fluid. Northgate Lincoln Mercury in Cincinnati told me "I drove over something red." Last Thursday, I got home, and had a huge puddle under my car. Called and got the car towed. Turned out that red fluid that "I drove over" was my own transmission fluid coming from a broken transmission seal.

    I don't know about everyone else, but I'm really having a hard time deciding who I hate more... Ford for building my lemon, or the incompetant dealerships for improperly fixing my car everytime something breaks.

    To end this post on a good note, even though it is not very reliable, at least it is a pretty car. :o)
  • sable93sable93 Posts: 107
    Oh, I forgot to mention, no I have not yet tried to fix the window problem. If it is just some broken plastic clips, I might get one of my car buddies to help me fix it. I usually just roll down the window a little to get it to stop.
  • riswamiriswami Posts: 192
    Sable93,

    Noticed that my door or window wasn't rattling Saturday with someone in the front passenger seat. Seem weird. The dropping the window a little does work.

    I looked around the door and I didn't see any screws to remove the door panel.

    Man you seem to be having one problem after another. But driving over something red. That is unbelievable.
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