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Pontiac Grand Prix - 2000-2005

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  • bolivarbolivar Posts: 2,316
    ...after being shut off.

    That's the exhaust pipes cooling off and contracting.
  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    Thanks for input on pinging noise. It makes sense that something is cooling off.
  • hengheng Posts: 411
    If its the same motor that comes in Malibus, its a dog.

    Rented a Malibu in Minneapolis. The motor was green but I had to give the gas pedal 30% to go from 50 to 70 mph. The GP with 3.8 will effortlessly scoot up to 70 without down shifting. Also the 3.1 motor is really coarse at anything over 3000 rpm and believe me you will be up there.
  • ruskiruski Posts: 1,566
    I think those steering column clunking problems were endemic to the Intrigue.

    I don't recall any issues like this with Grand Prix or Regal.
  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    I went on and bought the 3.1 L engine but there's a web page that I learned about on another forum called:

    www.gmpowertrains.com

    (There may or may not be an "s" on the end of powertrain.)

    The 3.1 has aluminum cylinder heads vs the 3.8 having cast iron. I don't know just how important this is to you. There was a lot of posting going on about this (cast iron vs. aluminum) in the Impala forum but it was a month or two ago and good luck if you could find it. They do a lot of posting on that forum.

    Most of my driving is in the city so the horsepower suits me but if I could have afforded it I probably would have gotten the 3.8 based on its cast iron engine.
  • rover3500rover3500 Posts: 11
    Hi Folks,

    Well, looks like new car time for me. Had nothin but troubles with Ford, so I'm goin GM. Took my Taurus in a while back (Taurus is a Dog!) and they gave me a Grand Prix GT Rental (Not smart for Ford to give GM rentals, kinda supporting the competition,Eh?). Needless to say I loved it, did n't want to give it back. I always like the GP. Most of my realitives in MI drive Pontiacs and have nothing but good things to say. So, would you guys recommend that I buy one up? I have gone to the dealership and pretty much have one picked out. 2001 GT fully loaded with leather and CD. Let me know what you think.
  • By my username you can see I no longer have the car but I still miss it. The lease was up and I couldn't pass up the lease on the Saturn L200. I certainly do miss the power(lost 105hp with this one!) and look of it. We've become the 'typical American family' with a sedan and suv. I never had any major problems with it. My wife had a GTP coupe as well and the only problems we had with both GPs was the power windows. My switch had to be replaced 4 times and hers twice. They were both excellent cars, but we needed four doors and I couldn't get a GTP sedan for what I was willing to pay. Plus, I knew the gas prices were going up and I was only getting 16mpg in city driving. I always put in super unleaded in both cars nothing below 92 octane. Just my two cents and hoping I can get another GP in 3 years !
  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    I've seen your name before--I imagine it was over on the Taurus forum. I thought about buying a Taurus and wound up with the Grand Prix. I can't really give advice since I haven't had the car long enough.

    What color do you have picked out? They didn't have a lot of Grand Prix's to choose from at the dealerships that I went to but I did manage to pick out a color that I liked.
  • kdstankdstan Posts: 17
    I just purchased a used 2000 GTP with a factory stereo in it. I have a question if some one can answer it-Can you still control the stereo from the steering wheel if you install a different one?
  • L8_ApexL8_Apex Posts: 187
    Yes and no...

    I can't recall the name but there is a company making an arrangement that utilizes the wiring from the steering wheel to control an IR transmitter. You would mount this transmitter somewhere in view of the head unit. This, obviously, requires that you purchase a head unit that can be remote controlled. Other than that... I've not seen anything that will use the buttons on the steering wheel.
  • rcarbonircarboni Posts: 290
    kdstan,


    Here's one company that makes what you are looking for. There is another - can't find the link right now, but if I do, I'll post that one also.


    http://www.discountcarstereo.com/SWRC.htm

  • kdstankdstan Posts: 17
    Can someone tell me who has the best premium unleaded gas? I am just curious I just purchased a GTP and have not used premium unleaded in the past.

    Thanks,
    kdstan
  • yurakmyurakm Posts: 1,345
    The engine asks for 91 octane. Pretty all stations sell 93 octane as premium, at least in our places, New England and New York. A good margin.

    So, the best to fill is is where it is convenient. If there are several convenient stations, than where it is less expensive. The same stations usually sell higher volume of gas, are better equipped - and thus have lesser probability to have contaminated gas.

    If you just want the best, Sun stations sells 94 octane "Extra" gas, for about 10 cents more.

    Though, your engine does not need this. Better to left the gas to the poor soils, recent immigrants and inner-city dwellers, driving in old cars with engines which never were tuned. They really need the very best gas to decrease the knocking.

    Know this very well - I drove in such a car the first two years after immigrating. And currently my car have the same 3.8l supercharged engine as yours.
  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    How do you find out the manufactured date of a car? When I bought the car, it had an invoice date of about 10/00. Would that be relatively the same date as the manufactured date.

    There was a recall on Grand Prix's seat belts manufactured from April-May 2000. Since I just bought the car, I don't know if it was fixed. It would have been sitting on the dealer's lot all that time so I would assume they would have fixed it, but who knows.

    Everyone talks about build dates so wondered how they find out this information.
  • yurakmyurakm Posts: 1,345
    The manufacturing date (month only) can be found on a plaque affixed in a door frame. Or inside the trunk lid.
  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    I found the manufacturing date in the door frame. Thanks!
  • kdstankdstan Posts: 17
    I do not have any Sun stations where I live which is in Texas. Thanks for the info though. I was wanting to find out from GTP owners which gas company's superunleaded gas they perfer-Texaco, Conoco, Exxon, Etc.

    Thanks,
    kdstan
  • kdstankdstan Posts: 17
    What is so special about the K&N air filter? I hear alot of car/truck owners putting the filters in. How are they better than other air filters?
  • xavier627xavier627 Posts: 7
    I currently own a 2001 GTP, used to own a 98 Pace Car but it got totaled in the snow Feb of 2000, and i'm still pissed... Anyways, Is there a way to improve the steering other than performing handling modifications such as springs, better tires, etc...?
  • xavier627xavier627 Posts: 7
    Forgot to ask... I'm most of my reading, I thought GTP's were to come with a 2 tranmission mode switch on the shifter, I dont' have one? Was it not offered in the 2001 GTP package? I'm looking into improving my shifting, because it's not as good as the my 2000 328ci.. I like how the beamer can shift down to 2nd and have a alot of thrust at 40mph.
  • yurakmyurakm Posts: 1,345
    was discussed recently at the Buick Regal board. Turned to be, GM dropped quietly the button for Regal GS in 2001.

    Would not surprised if they did the same with GP. Especially given GS and GTP basically are (is?) the same car, only in different-looking wrappers...

    Dumb decision in my mind. This is just software, a set of tables in ROM. Marginal cost of software duplication is zero, and how much could cost one button?
  • hengheng Posts: 411
    The way K&Ns are designed allows more air flow than regular paper filters.

    Steering: Go to the Grand AM section. Someone installed a strut tower brace which greatly improved steering response. Only costs about $100.
  • teoteo Posts: 2,508
    If memory serves me right, the '01 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP comes with the Magnasteer steering assist as standard equipment. According to technical info I have read, the Magnasteer steering can be 'adjusted' to the driver's preference. The adjustment can only be performed at the dealer but I believe it can be made firmer, softer, more effort, less effort, etc.

    Look into this if you don't want to spend $$$ on hardware add ons when the Magnasteer in your car can easily be adjusted to your liking.
  • theicemantheiceman Posts: 736
    I checked out some of the posts on this forum over the past couple of weeks and discovered what I already suspected - GP owners are, on the whole, quite pleased with their cars. So, we went out and bought one this past Thursday. We won't be picking it up until at least next week. We bought an incentive-laden 2001 GT that are hard to come by on local dealers lots these days so it'll take a few days to come in. I'll fill you in on the details once it comes in.

    This will be my wife's car (replacing a minivan of all things) as mine will remain the 2000 Bonneville SLE that we bought last December. I guess that makes us a true Pontiac household (after 20+ years of buying strictly imports!).

    Believe it or not, our final list was Century, Regal and GP GT - each had their strong and (relatively) weak points but we went with the latter for styling, handling and powertrain. Personally, I think the GT is one of the best values out there today - especially at invoice with incentive financing - and my sister's experience (she owns a '98 GT) has been very positive. Plus I'm familiar with the powertrain (identical to the Bonneville) so I don't expect any problems and look forward to ample grunt at any speed.

    re. K&N: heng is right about K&N's claims re. less airflow restriction (= more horsepower). Plus they are re-useable so if you own the car long enough it eventually will more than pay for itself. Downsides: i) you've got to clean and oil them periodically; ii) I've heard 1 complaint from 1 person (who may have over-oiled their filters) about fouled/ruined oxygen sensors - that can be costly.

    Anyway, glad to be a part of this club.
  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    There was a previous post about steering column clunking. I've noticed my steering wheel makes a noise sometimes when turning the wheel but it's not a clunking noise. It's more like a sound a steering wheel makes when the wheel is turned all the way except I haven't turned the wheel all the way.

    Does anyone know if this is indicative of the steering column problems that various GM cars have had? In the cars that had this problem, did they all make an actual clunk sound?

    It could be that this is normal for the Grand Prix.
  • fkoehlerfkoehler Posts: 15
    Hah!

    Just took my 2000 GT to the dealer on Friday, and that was one of the problems.
    I live in a small apt. complex, and we have to pull into the driveway, and the there are 5 parking spots, diagonal.

    They could not replicate the problem, of course.

    I started up this morning, and of course.. clunk.

    Actually, its a pretty subdued bassy thud in my case.
    Sounds like its coming from the passanger front axle area.

    Very strange.

    Besides that, I'm interested in the K&N Filter, as the GP seems just a little laggy when accelerating at 60 and above. Bu, its still real nice with the Wide-Track.
  • fkoehlerfkoehler Posts: 15
    Cup holders do suck in my opinion.

    Bad place, very poor design.

    Wish K&N had some sort of mod for that, I can't be the only one who finds them a pain. :)
  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    It seems the problem people are having is a definite "clunk" sound. I think this sound I'm having is probably normal. Could be I'm turning the steering wheel more than I realize. It may be just getting used to a new car--hope so!

    What I find a poor design is the ashtray. I don't smoke but if I need to charge my phone with the cigarette lighter, the charge won't fit. Maybe that's just with Nokia phones.
  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    I hope your wife enjoys her new car. I'm sure she can't wait to get it! (I already sent a congratulations on the Bonneville forum but thought I'd send another.)
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