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2010 Kia Forte

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  • jim1977jim1977 Posts: 14
    The Bluetooth does not play the directions from my TomTom Go 720 over the radio. I looked into it, and found that there is a different protocol for that type of thing as compared to the 2-way cell phone. Whether that holds true for the Garmin I don't know, since it might use the cell phone protocol.
  • pittsypittsy Posts: 15
    It's a Blackberry Bold (9700) with the Garmin Mobile Nav application ($99.00) uses Blackberry GPS for routing. Works same as stand-alone Garmin Nuvi, speaks turns and street names through BB speaker.
  • pittsypittsy Posts: 15
    This is actually the Garmin mobile application that runs on the BB using the BB GPS module and BB speaker to speak directions. If Forte Bluetooth links with full audio then should work.
  • netranger4netranger4 Posts: 149
    Just drove a new Forte last week. EX with automatic. I'd have to pass this one up. The car was quiet and fairly quick, but the suspension is designed for sportier handling so the ride quality was not as I'd hoped. Compared to the Spectra, which it replaced, it's an entirely different vehicle. The Spectra was far smoother riding.

    Judging from the rough ride I had, maybe the tires were overinflated as even small
    irregularities in the pavement made themselves heard and felt. The door panels were another area of disappointment.

    On the positive side, the build quality seemed very good and the controls well placed and smooth in operation. I think Kia should change some things to appeal to a larger demographic group.
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    Kia US, just posted some info on their website with regards the 5-door. Its under future vehicles/upcoming. As usual the Canadian site has nothing, they don't even mention the new Optima or Sportage.

    http://www.kia.com/#/upcoming/
  • hmownerhmowner Posts: 23
    I now have about 4,000 miles.
    First of all, I "fixed" the dead spot/engine stall problem. I love the car now that it responds like a normal stick shift.

    See http://www.forteforums.com/forums/do-yourself-articles/1342-best-throttle-mod-ev- er.html

    Likes after few months of driving:
    - good acceleration
    - decent mileage: 31.5 mpg based on 65% highway/ 35% city driving
    - roomy inside. It doesn't feel like a compact
    - using voice controlled bluetooth to make phone calls
    - decent stereo
    - ok seats
    - responsive cruise control that doesn't slow down when going up hill
    - back center console with cupholders. pretty handy during travel.
    - the sun visor with the extension. I use it every day to keep the sun out !

    Dislikes
    - the back trunk sits too high ==> less visibility ==> difficult to estimate distance when backing into a parking spaces

    - the need to down shift to 5th or 4th during highway speed when trying to pass (from 6th gear). If I keep it in 6th gear, you don't get much acceleration at all

    - need to keep air conditioner fan at "2" instead of "1" when hot (because the roof is not insulated too well causing the car to heat up quick). I don't like the noise of the fan setting on 2.

    - wide front bumper has too many stone chips already.

    - burns a bit of engine oil - need to "refill" about 1/16 of a quart every 1000 miles

    - Had warranty issues:
    1) paint defect under the clearcoat
    2) leaking fluid from fuel injector (waiting for parts)

    Dislikes
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    question about the stick shift on your Kia Forte 6-spd. sedan. How is the shifting working out? There were some early concerns/complaints about the "clunky" Forte shifter or clutch. More than just a few complained so I'm curious how your experience is. The new Forte sedan is along with the Soul and the new '11 Optima my favorite new Kia's being produced so I'm curious.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • hmownerhmowner Posts: 23
    edited June 2010
    The issue is not really the shifter or the clutch. The shifter is a bit rubberly, but ok. The clutch is soft, but you get used it to very quick.

    The main issue is the dead spot on the accelerator.

    Without the throttle mod, there is about 3/4 inch dead spot when you press on the accelerator before the engine would respond. The impact of this dead spot is that when you shift and engage gear by releasing the clutch, it's very hard to find the right pressure to push down on the gas pedal to rev the engine and engage the gear correctly. First timer to Forte would either stall the engine (most common) or really chirp the tires because you over compensate. It took me about couple of weeks to get it right. Even after that, you really have to watch how you let out the clutch and give gas.

    With the throttle mod, where you basically eliminate the dead spot, the gear shift is very smooth like any other "normal" stick shift
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    edited June 2010
    hmowner, I spose this was an ECU computer fix that Kia Motors did for all of you all with this problem then, paid for by Kia Motors?

    Pardon me if I've missed it when you've talked about this problem before on this thread, but I'm still just a titch bit curious how it all worked out as far as the fix. And, of course, one would think that Kia Motors is no longer producing manual-trannied Forte sedans (or Koup's, for that matter) straight-from-the-factory anymore with this throttle problem. Kind of a DUH, but I just want to read of your concurrence on this matter. Thank you and happy Kia motoring to all of you.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • hmownerhmowner Posts: 23
    iluvmysephia1,

    This is not a ECU fix, but a slight movement to one of the accelerator assembly that controls voltage output from the accelerator which in turn controls how the throttle responds. BTW, this is done via very minute shift of a plastic cover, either forward or backward. My guess is that this somehow changes the resistance setting within the assembly and thus changes the output voltage value associated with when the accelerator is in "idle" mode.

    Please read the link above.

    Anyway, after the "fix", you no longer feel the dead spot and the clutch/gas interaction feels like any other normal stick shift.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    thanks for that explanation. Sounds like Kia has fixed the problem for all of you all, then.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • steven39steven39 Posts: 636
    hi folks,i have a 2010 kia forte koup sx and today i noticed that after washing my car that there was water dripping all over the passenger window where the speaker sits.all windows were closed shut while i was washing car.dealer can't figure it out.but the water is leaking in regardless.anyone else experiencing this problem??
  • igozoomzoomigozoomzoom Waleska, GeorgiaPosts: 790
    I've driven both a Forte EX with the 4-speed automatic transmission and the SX model with the 5-speed automatic. Both were great cars and the EX was actually the more pleasant highway car with a slightly softer ride and less road noise than the SX. The EX's only real flaw is the 4-speed automatic tranny! It was reluctant to downshift at highway speeds and when it finally did so, it was much more abrupt than I would have liked. The 5-speed auto in the SX responded much faster and downshifts were just as smooth as upshifts...of course, the added power of the 2.4L reduced the need for downshifts in most situations.

    I would be very interested to see how the 5-speed automatic and 2.0L engine perform together, but that combination is only available in the EX with the "Fuel Economy Package". In addition to the 2mpg increase in city and hwy mileage, acceleration should be a bit better also- going faster and using less fuel sounds like a win-win setup to me! Hopefully the 5-speed auto would perform as smoothly in this application as it does in the SX model.

    But I have never seen a Forte EX with the Fuel Economy Package on any dealer's lot. I've spoken with sales managers at three different dealerships and they've never seen one either. Have they actually made any of these or are do they only exist on paper???
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    edited August 2010
    I have read that when the 5-door Forte arrives it will have the new 6 spd auto in it.
  • hmownerhmowner Posts: 23
    For future Forte SX buyers:

    Great Car for the money, but few things to know before you buy (I would, however, still buy the same car ):

    - There's a "deadspot" on the accelerator which you may want to fix. check this forum or other Kia forum for "best throttle mod". Without it, the manual is so difficult to drive.

    - When turning fast over a rough patch of road, the rear side of the car will skip.

    - The steering wheel does not feel solid and responsive when driving at highway speed (when compared to honda). There's a bit of dead spot on the center.

    - manual shift is not so smooth as compared to other cars (like Honda). 2nd gear and sometimes 5th gear goes in a bit rough. Dealer says it's normal - i.e. other Fortes has the same symptom)

    - gear ratio between 2nd and 3rd gear is too great. 3rd gear feels "too tall".

    - Weak air conditioner or lack or roof insulation causes the car to feel warm/hot during very humid and hot (90+ degrees) weather, even with the fan blowing at full.

    - 17 inch low profile tire is NOT a good choice if you often drive on rough pavement. Car bangs around a lot You will feel every imperfection on the road. One way to mitigate is to keep the tire pressure at 31 - 32 psi.

    - Great highway mileage ( 38 mpg when going at 65 mph, and about 32 mpg@ 80mph), but terrible city mileage ( about 20-21 mpg). When passing at highway speed, you will definitely want to down shift to 5th or 4th gear.

    - Engine has "ticking sound" which the dealer and KIA says is normal, but I don't particularly like it

    - Engine oil burn - it stops around 6,000 miles.

    - The seats are bit firm and seems to about an inch narrower and/or shorter than other cars. It's a bit uncomfortable on long trips

    - Blue tooth. Often, you have to pair the phone again as it stops from connecting automatically or stops from automatically downloading the phone book. You cannot talk with windows open... Too much background noise.

    - Front bumper and front portion of the hood will chip easily. Check every week and use touch up paint to cover up noticeable damage (BTW, use a thin brush or tooth pick to apply the paint. Do NOT use the paint "PEN" which leave noticeable and ugly application marks)

    - The inside of the engine will start to rust - especially the pure iron parts - during humid weather.

    - Inside the engine compartment, certain black tape around wires would start to come loose. Just clip it.

    - Sound. speed dependent volume control doesn't seem to always work.

    - Ealge LS2 tires are VERY noisy on concrete highways. I started noticing the noise after about 4,000 wear on the tires.

    - Stones/rocks hitting the rear tire wall sounds VERY loud.

    - head light by itself doesn't seem to illuminate the road well. The fog light helps. BTW, the factory setting on low beam is too high and you probably will need to re-adjust.
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    some very good points, have you considered forwarding these onto both KIA US and KIA Motors and also Kia Buzz as I'm sure they would be interested in getting feedback from an owner.
  • steven39steven39 Posts: 636
    hello,i have a 2010 kia forte koup sx with auto trans.the only issue i have had from the ones you have mentioned here is the bluetooth sometimes not connecting automatcly.yes this does happen to me on occasion as well for unknown reasons.but it does work and you do have to have the windows closed in order to be heard from the bluetooth system.as far as the a/c goes mine works very well down here in the south fla heat and iv'e actually had to turn it down a few notches because it got to cold..maybe the sedan forte sx has more issues than the koup version but i have had my car since march of this year and it's been pretty good overall.
  • rrbhokiesrrbhokies Posts: 108
    Has anyone else experienced the following "anomolies" that our EX Koup has experienced in the first week since owning it?

    1. Twice, when turning off the car and removing the key from the ignition, the radio will continue to play for a few seconds, sometimes up to 10 seconds, but then will turn off.

    2. Once, after exiting the car, the rear tail lights were still on. The car was off and the keys were removed and the car had been locked. Noticed it while inside at a 7-11 gas station. We have the auto-headlights enable, but the headlights themselves were turned off. It was only the rear tail lights that were still lit.

    Otherwise, love the car!!
  • steven39steven39 Posts: 636
    i have the forte koup sx and have not experienced the issues that you are describing here.you could possibly have some electrical issues with the car.even though it's brand new sometimes these things happen due to defects from the factory.but that's what new car warranty's are for.bring it back to the dealer and let them diagnose the problem.
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