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Volvo S80

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  • paltingpalting Posts: 26
    It's either a lemon car, or a lemon dealership service. I know the S80 has taken it's lumps on reliability, but hardstarting/not starting was never one of them. Maybe you should try another service dept. or dealer.
  • joel2468joel2468 Posts: 75
    The problem you describe with your S80 is the same symptom I had with my 1999 S70. As I have posted on these froums before, my Volvo left me stranded at least three times, and required towing to the dealership. You might still see this syndrome described on Brickboard.com as the "lawnmower syndrome". As described, it can be caused by running the car for a very short period of time, like pulling the car out of the garage to get your lawnmower out; it is related to engine design. I was never sure if this was just Volvo urban legend, or pure BS. After the third time stranded I traded Volvo, but in subsequent discussions with Volvo owners and mechanics, it is symptomatic of ignition, compression, and/or fuel system/injector problems (given that the battery is new and electrical and computer systems are intact). It is difficult to trace and fix the problem, and left me with a bad feeling every time I approached the car. I suggest that you find another Volvo Dealer, or independent Volvo Technician, to troubleshoot (a second opinion). I'm not suggesting that your dealer is dishonest, but any one of the problems I listed is expensive, and time consuming, to fix. Aso, I have seen in this forum a problem described related to a low hanging vent pipe? (something easily damaged on prior year S80s when bottoming out or hitting a curb). Not sure if this is related.
  • griffman12griffman12 Posts: 18
    Hey, scottc3. Since you do your own maintenance where is the orifice in the PVC system?? Were you able to find a manual for your 2000 S80T6??

    Tires:I have the 17'' Mich's on my 2000 S80T6. Changed two tires at 45,000 mile. Mainly because one was run flat and ruined. The new ones are on the front the originals on the back at 58,000 miles. they are a little over 3/32 and I will probility replace them in August. Who is telling who that 35,000 miles is normal!!
  • oper8rnoper8rn Posts: 5
    Mooer's Volvo in Richmond, Virginia put a new transmission in my 1999 S80 after several trips to their repair shop; my 5th light bulb went out in less than a year...I paid $60 for new wiring for my headlights...they say that it is not a recall, but numerous people have had this problem and it was suggested that it would help the problem. I am dumping this car before my warranty runs out...I can't afford the repair bills when the warranty runs out.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,890
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  • kiiwiikiiwii Posts: 284
    I moved to DFW area a little more than two years ago. Yeap, have experienced most of the volvo dealers here. Okay, Volvo Richardson and Autobahn (Fort Worth), my god, the service departments are the worst SH_T in the world.

    What happened? (you must be wondering) Took my 960 to Volvo Richardson for oil change. The service dude told me that I need to replace the under body guard and air guide. I asked why. He said they both were broken and can't be put back to the car. Well, they were lying. I told them to leave the broken parts back in my trunk, and I put the parts back to the car myself at home. Took my car in for oil change in Houston later (volvo dealer). I asked if it's necessary to replace the under body guard. They service manager told me it's fine. No need to waste money.

    Okay, again, took my car back to the dealer for oil change. This time is in Volvo Autobahn in Fort Worth. Their mechanics were either high on drugs or just shi_ty stupid. I asked for full synthetic oil change. Nope, didn't happened. I heard their conversation behind the door. The mechanic said "man, I didn't know he wanted synthentic oil. hell, he wouldn't know..." The bill was charging me the price for full synthetic. I spoke to the service manager. He sweared on his mother's life to me that I got the full synthetic oil. yeah, my aXX.

    Anyhow, so far my best experience is with Volvo Dallas. They do take care of customers. Their service managers do listen and find solutions to the problems. Also, you don't have to wait for long appointments for a loaner car.

    In conclusion, DON'T TAKE YOUR CAR TO VOLVO RICHARDSON AND AUTOBAHN FOR SERVICE!!!
  • peeetepeeete Posts: 136
    In the NJ area one of the dealers (Kundert)does a big business in selling Certified S80's and V70's that were used by Boston Coach - an executive limo service owned by Fidelity Investments. They are a legit outfit - and they even disclose on their website about meticulous maintenance and daily car cleanings. They sell 2001's with about 20K miles in the high $20's. Since *supposedly* the newer S80's are better, am I looking for trouble by buyinfg one? Has anyone had experiences with this deal? thanks
  • toddartoddar Posts: 10
    I have a '00 S80 T-6. I have gotten 37K from the Michelin Pilot 225/50/17's but would like something with a little better ride and possibly wear. As you may know, there are not a lot of tires in the 225/50/17 size. Three questions:

    1. What do you think of the using the alternate size 235/45/17's because there is a better selection from which to choose and more competitive pricing (I know Volvo is strict about the options)?

    2. Which is a better option (looking at drive quality only and excluding pricing considerations), the 225/55/16's or the 235/45/17's?

    3. Considering my preferences and the answers to 1 & 2, what tires would you recommend?

    Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Those original tires are beginning to look at little war torn and the car is getting inspected in a month (AKA I need to do something fast).

    THANKS!!!!!
  • I too am thinking of purchasing one of these. Dose anyone have any experience with them?

    Thanks in advance for your help!
  • cluj233cluj233 Posts: 1
    Star
    Volvo of Houston out I-10
    Momentum

    Which is best?
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    I used to Work at Montclair Volvo (Check their pricing BTW.... they're usually the cheap deal in North Jersey... especially if they've had it for 45+ days..) and I used to buy a LOT of Ex Boston Coach cars.

    We always had very good luck with them. They all come from Closed, Volvo-Dealer-Only auctions and they're pre-checked for accident/structural damage..etc. We probably moved close to 20 a month.. I mean, $23K for a year old S70GLT? They were EASY to sell and a great Value for the customer. They were very highly maintained and we very rarely had problems with them when they hit the shop before they hit the lot. (Just the usual.. Brakes, sometimes tires, the odd ck engine light or other little problem.. but they never apeared to be "Abused".

    The ones that had been in accidents went through the auction as "Open Sale" carsand I never bought any!

    So, yeah.. I wouldnt beafraid of them at all. I have sold a few of them to people I knew and they were always pleased with them.

    Kundert is also a good dealership to deal with.

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    I personally like the Pirelli P6000 Series Traction-wise... But wear-Wise?

    Stick with the (Overpriced IMHO) Michelins. 37K is darn good for Z/V rated tires.

    Excellent Grip=Soft Rubber=Quick Wear. Consider it a "Casualty of performance"

    Bill
    Our T6 is on P6000s.
  • bucky1bucky1 Posts: 20
    Check out my previous post #896. I just got back from a 600 mile (mostly Interstate roads) trip. The Bridgestone Potenza tires I wrote up on #896 are fabulous. The cabin was so quiet at 80 mph and the ride was wonderful! Great handling in the rain also!
  • Thanks for the information on Boston Coach cars.
  • peeetepeeete Posts: 136
    Thanks for the good info. I went to Kundert and they gave me their inventory list of cars. The list had the number of days in inventory listed on it. Almost all of the cars had been there for between four months and a year!. They were asking $28 and $29K for V70's and S80's... a lot higher than what you were talking about.

    Based on what you said, Im a bit concerned. Any used car thats is a good value like this should not sit for so long. I wonder if the good ones move each time they get them in, and the dogs sit?

    Are these auctions monthly? thanks.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Yeahup... every month.

    They have stuff from FOUR MONTHS OLD TO A YEAR OLD on their lot?

    Good GOD! We always sold em quickly.. but then, we always nailed the heck outta them on pricing! Come to think of it, we were turning our ex-BC cars in about 20-25 days. If I were you, I'd go talk to Paul Davis at Montclair... He is a VERY straight shooter.

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Glad to help! :)
  • peeetepeeete Posts: 136
    I checked montclairs website..they dont have any listed.

    I pulled out Kunderts stock list, dated 5/20/02, so you dont think Im making this up. THe 2001's range in inventory time from 130 days to 404 days (buts thats extreme). Most seem to be in the range of six months to eight months (this is 21+/- cars). Prices are 28K for the V70's, and $30K for the S80's. I know most of the V70's dont have traction, so I think thats why they sit. They offerred me the V70's at about $27,100, and the S80's at $28,400. Seems pricy given the time on the lot!
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    I dont think they keep everything they got online...

    We used to get a lot of cars in that sold so quickly.. it wasnt worth spending the $$/time to throw em on the website. 96 XJSs were a great example... So were 240s. Whenever they came in, we just made a few calls and they were gone.

    I'd be surprised if they didnt have a couple.

    I'll double-check current pricing for ya when I get to the office tomorrow.

    Bill
  • jrosasmcjrosasmc Posts: 1,704
    Since you sell Volvos at a pretty big dealership, what did or do you make of used 740s and 940s? Did those cars sell pretty quickly when you took them in on trade and wholesaled them? I've seen those particular Volvo models go fast at other dealerships as well.

    And do you think the market for used 850s will continue to be very strong?
  • jjunkerjjunker Posts: 1
    I live in New York City and the last few weeks I
    have experienced "low oil pressure, pull over and stop ASAP" message a few times.

    The light actually flickers (sometimes) while waiting at lights, i.e. engine running but foot on the brake.

    The service manager described it as a "flicker" too, and said it was
    something that happened to the S80's and that it was not serious. Has anyone here experienced
    this?

    thanks
    -r
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    850s sell well.

    When I did (I no longer work for and dont own a Volvo dealership) work at a Volvo store 740s were rarely traded in in "retailable" condition, 940s sold reasonably well. Our main sellers were 850s, S70s..etc.

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Well.. its summertime.. :)

    What weight oil ya running? Could also be a bad sending unit...

    Bill
  • javaseajavasea Posts: 11
    A tsb is out on this. It happened to me. The dealer said it is a cloged screen on the end of a sensing tube in the oil, my words, or something like that. You more technical folks will know what I am trying to say. I would not drive the car any further than the dealer to get it fixed. Try to take the TSB to them. This sometimes helps. They fixed it, but it took a few days. I had a loaner so not a problem for me. Check out sites listing recalls and TSBs for your model. I have a 01 built in 10/99. The, my, dealer is always on top of what needs to be done. Hope this helps.
  • jrosasmcjrosasmc Posts: 1,704
    How in the world do you have a 2001 S80 that was built in 10/99?
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    The Town Hall is about to take on a new look in an effort to make content more easily searchable and accessible.

    Have you seen the Letter from the Town Hall Manager on the Town Hall Welcome page? If not, you might want to follow that link to have a look.

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  • javaseajavasea Posts: 11
    Thanks. My other car is an '01.
  • javaseajavasea Posts: 11
    http://www.applications.edmunds.com/maintenance/MaintenanceServlet?step=step4&year=2000&make=Volvo&model=S80&style=4+Dr+2.9+Sedan&popup=current


    Bulletin No. 210028, dated March 2000. Try the above website at Edmonds for all the recalls and TSBs on any model car. Great tool.

  • javaseajavasea Posts: 11
    Component Description:
    7.ENGINE NHTSA Number: SB610590
    Bulletin Number: 2198
    Bulletin Date: APR 2000

    Vehicle: 2000 Volvo S80
    Summary:
    SERVICE CAMPAIGN ENVOLVING THE ENGINE OIL FILLER GRAKE LOCATED IN THE ENGINE OIL FILLER NECK OF CERTAIN VEHICLES.
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