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Acura Legend

I own 3, and I am pretty damn happy with em, not
to mention I race them every once in a while. Min.
problems, even my '87 Legend that's coming up on
200k miles. I love the performance and ride, even
after putting in after-market springs. The 2nd
generation Legends, great mix of class and power.
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  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I have to admit that I like the older Legends too. Especially the 1989 and 1990 model. They looked better than the 1986-1988 models. The 2nd generation car was no looker, but I'm come to like it too, I once almost bought a 1994 as a 2nd car. They make a great used car now from about 15K, especially the LS models. I kind of wish Acura would drop this silly RL designation and go back to what people remember "Legend" and make the car just that, a Legend. I still can't believe they dropped the name, it has to be the silliest thing they've ever done.

    M
  • I really think that Honda made a mistake of dropping the Legend name badge. Even though they might bring it back in 02 or so, the styling will never be that of the Legend we all kno, remember and miss. I do know as a fact that the Legend name badge is still in use in europe, but still, its the 3.5 RL to us (basically it doesn't matter). I have test drove the RL, and frankly, I felt that the power just wasn't there. Extreamly underpowered. I think if I was to go at it in the 1/4 mile (the RL vs my 87 Legend w/ stock componets) I belive my old "crap [non-permissible content removed]" Legend would burn the RL like crazy. But overall, I like the RL as a compleate lux car. But the fun is just gone in the Legend/RL... same engine as the NSX, why doesn't Honda just give the RL the same power as the NSX (I mean that would make up for some of the loss).
  • smithedsmithed Posts: 444
    I have been looking at a '91 Legend with 105,000 miles. It drives nice and is in acceptable condition (great outside and appropriately worn inside). What should I look out for? Thanks for the input.
  • thicks23thicks23 Posts: 42
    I own a Cobalt blue '91 Legend with 115,000 miles and it is still a great car. What kind of interior wear does it have? Are you buying from a dealer? The only things you should look out for are the timing belt and water pump. These should have been changed so get all maintenance records before you buy it.
  • xoaxoa Posts: 1
    I own a 90 Legend STD sedan for almost 4 years now. It has about 110k on it (I bought it with 47K). So far it had some eletrical problems (relay, alternator) and oxygen sensors has been replaced. Other than these, it has been a nice car. I started to appreciate it more after I drove some other cars (Altima, Tarrus, etc).
    Lately I feel the suspension is becoming weak (jumping a little too much on bumps), and is considering replacing the struts. I am not a car racer, just want to get a better handling. Could anyone who has done this give some suggestions on different options, eg. original parts, performance parts or generic parts (Monroe, Midas, etc)?

    Thanks.
  • sbgat23sbgat23 Posts: 5
    I too own a 1990 Legend. It is a great car. I just had the suspension repleaced -- Struts etc. -- I had it done at the dealer and am pleased with the results. My experience with Midas et als is that on struts and brake work they are a little too sloppy and too generic for me and my car. Just my opinion as they say.
    By the way as a ringing endorsement of the 1990 Legend, I told the service manager at the dealership that I was thinking of trading it in or a new Acura and he told me not to, that rather than trading it in I should sell it to him since he felt the car has another goood 125,000 miles on it! Pretty impressive when the guy who services the car wants to buy it.
    My only real problem with the Legend is that it is strting to have lower panel rust problems and I just can't see the cost benefit of paying $2500+ on a car that has a street value of about 4000 - 5000.
  • thicks23thicks23 Posts: 42
    I was just wondering what kind of rust problems you're having because I just removed some rust from my '91 today using GS-27 scratch remover. I had minor rust on the front where the bumper meets the fender. I just rubbed the GS-27 on with a cloth and it removed the rust! I then painted the area with Acura touch-up paint and it isn't noticeable that I painted it until you get up close. Pretty good for $15 for the GS-27 and $5 for the touch-up paint.
  • smithedsmithed Posts: 444
    I am about to buy that 1991 Legend LS I mentioned above. I have been able to track down the previous owners and service records. At 105,000 miles, the timing belt and water pump have not been replaced, but the dealer will have those done for me. The car has spent most of its life in Greenville, SC (a no road salt or sea salt area). I have driven it for 20 miles or so, it seems to run well. The shifts seem rather hard. Is this normal? Otherwise everything seems solid. Is $8900 a fair price?
  • hawks4hawks4 Posts: 1
    I too have a 1990 Legend - 4Dr L series with 134,000 miles on it. I've thought seiously of trading it in on a new Acura TL but the service shop that does the routine maintenance on my Legend advises against trading it. With no ax to grind and a very objective analysis of my car, they say that the $4k I would get on a trade-in does not do justice to its true value. These folks think the Legend ('90 & older) was one of the best automobiles ever built. I certainly agree as this car has been extremely reliable and still runs like a new one. Bought it used in '92. Incidentally, does anyone know what the original MSRP was on the '90 Legend?
  • thicks23thicks23 Posts: 42
    smithed,
    It is normal for the transmission to be rather rough because for some reason it was made to be like that. Maybe the rough shifts help performance. $8900 is fair if it is in excellent condition and has all the maintenance done. I say go for it since these things last hundreds of thousands of miles when maintained properly.

    hawks4,
    I believe the MSRP was probably close to $28k for a 1990 Legend L Sedan.
  • smithedsmithed Posts: 444
    Thicks 23, Hawks4

    Thanks for your responses. I suspect that you are right about the reason feel of the shifts by the transmission. We drove it home tonight after the timing belt and water pump were replaced yesterday. It drives nice, straight and true, and I can't see too many sedans pulling away from this one. Lots of power.

    Edwin Smith
  • rsiersrsiers Posts: 1
    After reading several of your comments, I would like to share my long time love affair with my 88 Acura legend. This car is 12 years old now and still runs like a sewing machine. I'll admit it is starting to get tired; but what car wouldn't at 277,000 miles!I hope this gives you confidence if you are shopping for a used Legend. I am considering buying a 94 Legend LS.Anybody have a good report on their's?
  • kmj1kmj1 Posts: 1
    I have a 1987 Acura Legend(bought it used). It is a great car but it has 120k and it is time to replace the timing belt. Also the oxygen sensors are not working properly. I am considering purchasing a new car, but after reading what believers you all are in Legends I am considering getting mine fixed. Any suggestions?
  • thicks23thicks23 Posts: 42
    An '87 with only 120k miles still has a lot of life left. Getting it fixed (timing belt and sensors) will cost about $500 depending on where you go. I got my timing belt changed at an independent mechanic for $300 and heard the oxygen sensors are about $50-$60 a piece. So it is up to you to decide if you love your Legend enough to spend $500 to fix it. Still that is a lot cheaper than buying a new car and Legends are great automobiles that last. In fact I've heard of '86s with nearly 400,000 miles on them. Good luck.
  • thicks23thicks23 Posts: 42
    I am starting to get a little concerned about my '91 Legend automatic. It has been making this strange metallic noise when I accelerate but not when I coast. The noise is almost like a combination of rattling, grinding and popping and is all have a metallic sound to them. It is louder outside of the car than it is inside and it also varies each time I drive the car. Sometimes it is unnoticeable even with the windows down and sometimes it is so loud that I can hear it clearly from the inside (at least without radio and a/c on). I am completely confused by this mysterious noise. Someone on another topic recommended using a fuel injector cleaner so I did but so far it hasn't worked. I am hoping this is not a transmission problem because if it is I might have to get rid of my dear old Legend. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
  • I recently purchased a 94 Legend for 11k with 81k miles on it. The car is in excellent condition in and has normal wear on the inside. In fact the inside is better than I expected for a six year old car. The car is automatic and rides nice but there is sometimes a hesitiation when shifting from 1st to 2nd gear. It may be just me getting used to the cars power (I have never driven anything with more than 4 cylinders)But considering that I got a great deal on the car I'm starting to wonder.Recently the hesitation has been far less noticeable. Does anyone have any information regarding a trend with trans problems with this car?
  • smithedsmithed Posts: 444
    The 1991 Legend I bought last week (see posts above) shifts abruptly compared to other cars (such as my Intrepid). I had some concern about that as I test drove it, but the other owners on this board assured me that it was made to shift that way, as a means of delivering more power. I guess you could say the shifting is done with more purpose.
  • thicks23thicks23 Posts: 42
    if you are squeezing into traffic using full throttle. That aggressive transmission can be scary. I had a scare a few weeks ago when I was merging on to the highway behind some slow people (going 45 trying to merge into 65mph traffic) and needed to gather speed quickly to get into traffic. I underestimated how much the car would surge forward when it shifted from 2nd to 3rd and I almost rear ended someone in the passing lane. I squeezed in between two sport-utes while my right foot was still down and at the same time it shifted shooting me right up to the rear bumper of the suv in front of me. So use caution when accelerating in traffic because 2nd generation Legends spring forward like crazy when shifting from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd.
  • smithedsmithed Posts: 444
    OK, I will be advised to be aware.
  • gbesanagbesana Posts: 1
    I found a 92 Legend with 54,000 miles (1 owner) in great shape. Automatic, dark blue with grey leather interior. I drove it for a while, enjoyed the power and comfort.
    I am a little uneasy in buying an 8 year old car.....I'd appreciate opinions. it is priced at 12,000.

    Thank you
  • thicks23thicks23 Posts: 42
    I think a '92 Legend with only 54,000 miles would be a great car. As I have said before on this topic, Legends will last a long time. I wouldn't worry about it being 8 years old considering it has the mileage of a car that is 3.5-4 years old. If it is in excellent condition inside and out, $12k is a good deal. I just priced out a '92 L w/leather for $14 on KBB so you're $2k under if the car is an L but $12k is about right if it is the STD model and an LS runs closer to $15k. I say go for it, having owned a '91 L I must say it is a wonderful car.
  • prophet2prophet2 Posts: 372
    MSRP prices on 1990 Legends:

    base, 5-MT, no sunroof ............... 22,895
    base, 4-AT, sunroof .................. 24,580
    L, 5-MT, cloth, s.r. ................. 26,195
    L, 4-AT, leather, s.r. ............... 27,945
    LS, 5-MT, leather, s.r. .............. 29,905
    LS, 4-AT, leather, s.r. .............. 30,705

    Hawaii price $150 lower, Alaska price $280 higher.

    I used to have a 1991 LS. The MSRP was $34,200, an increase of $3,495 in one year! Probably due to the new engine, larger body size.
  • johnt11johnt11 Posts: 1
    I also am very happy with my 93 Legend. It has 151,000 miles on it and I have owned it since day 1. I runs well, but I have noticed an extreme amount of heat that radiates from the converter. The car's performance has slowed down a bit, requiring a bit more "right foot" to get it moving, but it still will perform. Has anyone noticed this before? Could it possibly be those Oxygen sensors going bad? Any help would be appreciated.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Very informative post. It's always interesting to see what cars costs way back when. The TL has taken the Legend's original price point, almost to the dollar.

    M
  • chenry4chenry4 Posts: 4
    Great discussions and obvious loyalty to the Legend. I'm a second owner of a 1987 Legend L w/110K miles and it has performed flawlessly for my past 8 years/70K miles. Besides routine maintenance (inc. timing belt & water pump replacement at 85K - "why not the mechanic said, it's cheaper to do it now while I'm in there") only the muffler has needed replacing - a result of surviving it's formative years in the rustbelt. Shifting has always been especially firm (as noted by others) and not a drop of oil is burned by it's smooth revving 2.5L V6 engine. AND, having just relocated to the S.W. USA, I've had the extremely good fortune of finding a 1993 Legend LS, pearl white, w/21K miles (estate sale) - and it's got it all, including my $$$ as it sold at retail price - but worth it. I can't wait to experience the difference!
  • i am in a quandry - my wife is expecting a third child and i need a car that can potentially handle three kids in car seats - right now we have a 94 corolla and a 99 odyssey. the minivan is great, but there will be times when she will have all the kids and i have the minivan. i do alot of out of town driving i.e. - gone for a couple of days at a time, and generally i use the corolla, but i have taken the van on occasion for reasons to long to discuss. here's where you people come in. on a used lot near my house are two acuras - a 92 legend ls auto w/68,000 miles and 94 vigor gs auto w/ around 69k - both being offered at $12,500. both seem to be in really good shape - no rust and they seem to run well - both white for what that's worth - i have never dealt with the dealership before, but their cars always look impeccable (even the american ones).
    reliability is crucial. since, either i'm on the road or my wife has three kids w/ her. any ideas on which to take?
    i'm asking since you all made me fall in love with the acura legend and vigor
  • Three kids? I'd take the Legend. The Vigor is a bit smaller in cabin capacity and "powered" by a five-cylinder engine instead of a proven V-6.
  • I agree with prophet2, I would take the Legend. I just purchased the 93 mention in post #25 and so far no complaints, and absolutely none with the 87 I've owned for 7+ years. Don't know about the inline 5 cyl of the Vigor, but I did own an 83Audi 5000S and it just didn't seem to have the power you would expect - which right or wrong I attributed to only being a 5 banger. Retail blue book on the LS is $15,800 - sounds like a good deal.
  • As long as any Legend has been properly maintained you should have no concerns about buying. Bought '88 LS with 96K in '96 for son. Currently has 139K - bulletproof performance and service. Only normal maintenance required - had all receipts from original owner. Bought '94 6 spd. Coupe for myself with 54K. Drove it without a care for about 1 year when job forced sale. Worry about buying a '94 Legend with 54K on it? Please!
    If properly maintained (and they are relatively low maintenance cars compared to German) car will stay tight and go 300K without trouble. Looking at '88 for second son right now. Car has 120K with all service records - I have no concern whatsoever about its reliability and my son's using it to go back and forth to college. And the big benefit? He is 6'4" and the Legend is the only car we can find that gives him enough legroom when he drives. In our '00 V-6 Accord, with the seat all the way back, his knees hit the dash!!! In my experience, the Legend is the only car that offers tremendous legroom for tall drivers. I wish they still made them - one of the best cars of all time. What does my son say about his '88? Heroes are soon forgotten, but Legends never die. Acura needs to revive the Legend.
  • smithedsmithed Posts: 444
    Having bought the '91 Legend LS for my daughter to take to college, I know she has a better car than I do. The next car that I buy for myself will be a used Legend LS.
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