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  • goralgoral Posts: 138
    I think I already mentioned to you (on other board) that my '91 L Sedan w/ 120K is looking for a new owner. For ~$100 or so, you can pick up a one way plane ticket to Chicago, and drive it back :)
    Seriously though... I think $8K for the '92 (with this many miles) is little too much.
    I would be willing to let mine go for ~$5500.
    As far as reliability goes, these cars will easily run past 200K.
    As a matter of fact, someone spotted a '91 Legend used as a taxi (in Chicago). Guess what the miles were...??? Over 400K - on original engine/transmission!!!
    In case you haven't found this site - check out:
    forums.legend.org.
    The best legend forum on the net!
  • tcpip1tcpip1 Posts: 121
    Thanks for the info about the Legend forum. I'll check it out. The local paper has a '95 Legend L with 110K miles for sale by owner at $12K. The owner will let it go for $11.5K. The car looks clean and has been serviced by a local Acura dealership since he purchased it. Is that a good price ($11.5K)?
  • goralgoral Posts: 138
    There is (soon "was") a '95 Legend w/ 68K miles on eBay. Starting bid - 11K. You might want to check it out (located in PA).

    Regarding that '95 w/ 110K for $11,500 - I still think the GS would be a better buy. If you put average miles on your car, with that GS it would take you 4-5 years to get to 110K... All for a "mere" $3K (which would be a normal yearly depreciation on a car like that).
    Besides, GS is more sought after than L (because of the engine).
  • tcpip1tcpip1 Posts: 121
    Thanks for the input. I agree with you. There are not many GS Legends on the streets, so I do enjoy being a bit unique here. :) In fact, I am going to pick up the GS when the check I gave the owner clears. The owner seems to be an honest guy. I had questions about paint repairs in one area of the car. He just said let's take it to the nearby Acura dealership for a 2nd opnion.

    The GS does cost more to insure...
  • tcpip1tcpip1 Posts: 121
    I just picked up my '94 Legend GS today. On my way home, I stopped by a Shell gas station to get gas (full service in NJ). One of the attendants saw my car and came over to ask about my car. I told him it's a '94. He seems surprised. :) I am very satisfied with my Legend and had an excellent experience dealing with the owner.

    The car is fast and stable at 70~80 mph. Now, not many cars can push me around. :)
  • cristie1cristie1 Posts: 1
    Hi!
    Just sold my Toyota mommy-van, and bought a 94Legend L. 113k, paid 10k. The power locks on both of the back doors are not operable. Has anyone fixed this and what was your cost? Other than that she is in grt shape/all maint. records from the beg. Reliability ratings are awesome on this car, so why is it she sort of has a rep for being finicky?
    Let me know! I just love her.
  • goralgoral Posts: 138
    Get used to people being surprised... IMO, the car's exterior design is timeless!!!

    cristie1
    The car has very good reliability, but it's not perfect! Most likely it will never leave you stranded due to some catastrophic failure, but there are quite a few "little" annoyances about it.
    In case of my '91, I just noticed the radiator's top is cracked and needs replacement. No biggie - $114 for the radiator (from eBay, sold by radiator.com) and I will either replace it by myself (time pending) or my mechanic will do it for $50... Same goes for things like power window switch (changed mine), CV boot(s) (changed mine), transmission mounts, wheel speed sensor(s) (too lazy to change in my car :) )...
  • hyiuhyiu Posts: 18
    hi all:

    to a previous post about radiator leaks... I have $0.02 cents of experiences and would like to share...

    I also have it before, the radiator leaks near where the cap is. My mechanic (who used to work in Acura dealer) told me because it is some kind of plastic (or plastic like material), it tends to crack and leak like that once its old (mine is 93 legend coupe and I replaced it about 2 yrs ago). He said if you replace it with an original Acura one again, it'll happen again around the same age. He recommended replacing with a metal one and he said it'll not happen again. Well, its only been 2 yrs, but so far, so good...
    :-)

    and yes.... when I first bought my 93 legend coupe and when I park, people would say "nice car!"... and I have got notes stuck on my windshield leaving me a number if I want to sell, call them, and funniest thing is my mom never understand why the legend would get compliements like that and she wouldn't when she's driving her brand new Volvo... haaa haaa haaa.....
    (well.... not that Volvo is not good.... but just not as eye catching as a Legend Coupe....)
    :-)
  • tcpip1tcpip1 Posts: 121
    Where did you get the metal cap? Can I get it from Acura?

    BTW, my Legend does not have the trunk CD changer installed. A local Acura dealership is asking ~$500 for an Acura 6-disk CD changer. Can I get an OEM one for say ~$300?
  • hyiuhyiu Posts: 18
    Hi tcpip1:

    Sorry... I think there's some mis-understanding... I mean the my radiator was leaking before near the cap (on the top of the radiator)... so, when car is cold, it won't leak, but after it warmed up on a hot day, the coolent boiled and it will start a slow leak...

    I didn't just replace the cap, but I replaced the whole radiator. The original Acura radiator's material is like some kind of plastic... My mechanic told me not to install that and replaced mine with a metal one. that metal radiator is not from Acura.
  • newpcguynewpcguy Posts: 4
    I have an 1988 Legend LS with 215,000 miles. For the first time, the engine temperature climbed to nearly the red, the engine ran very rough, and lots of dark gray smoke blew out the back. It started when I had been stuck for 15 minutes in a parking garage on a fairly steep down ramp and had been running the air conditioning, but the outside temperature was only in the seventies. Fortunately, it didn't overheat. After I got out of the garage, I shut off the engine and checked the oil on the level and the coolant, and both were well above the minimum mark. Then I started the engine with no problem, but the temperature was still near the red until I pulled away. I was immediately driving at highway speeds, and in five seconds the temperature gauge dropped to normal. The car hasn't behaved like this since. Does anyone have any idea what caused this and how likely it is to recur?
  • newpcguynewpcguy Posts: 4
    I am contemplating adding a towing package to my automatic Legend, which has the older 160 hp engine. I want to occasionally tow a 4 x 6 trailer with a few bales of hay or perhaps even my garden tractor. Has anyone done any towing with their Legend, and what was the result? My engine has 230K miles on it, and I don't want to damage it. On the other hand, I'm thinking of purchasing a 1991 Legend with the 200 h.p. engine which has 130K miles on it--would the trailer be okay to tow with that?
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I had just about the same episode with my 1987 Maxima way back when. It acted the same way with the air running and yet after taking off from the light all was ok.......never happened again through out the cars life. Hmmmm....

    M
  • eeoreeor Posts: 7
    hi! legends seem like really good cars, judging by this forum, so i'm curious- is this car a good deal:

    1992 acura legend gs, 80,000 miles, $10,000

    Driver's Side Air Bag; Passenger's Side Air Bag; Cruise/Speed Control; Defroster, Rear; Locks, Power Door; Seat, Power Driver; Seatbelts, Front Shoulder; Seatbelts, Rear Shoulder; Steering Wheel, Tilt; Sunroof, Power; Tire, Full Spare; Windows, Power; Anti-Lock Brakes; Air Conditioning; Alloy Wheels; Cruise Control; Rear Window Defroster; Power Seats; Power Door Locks; Power Mirrors; Power Windows; Power Steering; Sunroof/Moonroof; Theft Deterrent System; Tinted Glass; Tilt Steering Wheel;

    that's the ad. now i'm fairly certain there is no such thing as a legend gs. i'm thinking it's an "l" series, judging by the options. manual, cloth seats and tape deck, too, i'll bet.

    if i buy, is it due for any major repairs? anything i should look for? i can't afford to not have a car in perfect working order for at least a few more months.

    love,
    eor
  • goralgoral Posts: 138
    Yeap, no such a thing as a '92 GS...
    Major maintenance - the only thing you should be aware is the timing belt / water pump replacement, which should be done @ ~90K miles (~$700-$800 when performed by the dealer).
    Major repairs - check the radiator top for cracks, transmission mounts, power window master switch...
  • eeoreeor Posts: 7
    i now have comfirmation that it's an automatic.

    goran- thanks for the heads up. i think 10k miles is enough for me to save up for repairs.

    a certain site with the words "car" and "point" in the title had this to say about the 92 legend- cany truth to this?

    engine-
    significant problems- A common problem on this vehicle is failure of the Vehicle Speed Sensor, and a periodic problem is failure of the Ignition Control Module. Failure of the Ignition Control Module may prevent the vehicle from starting.The cost to repair the Vehicle Speed Sensor is estimated at $270.00 for parts and $45.50 for labor.The cost to repair the Ignition Control Module is estimated at $231.00 for parts and $26.00 for labor.All prices are estimates based on $65 per flat rate hour and do not include diagnostic time or any applicable sales tax.

    brakes-
    moderate problem- An occasional problem on this vehicle is failure of the ABS Pressure Switch.The cost to repair the ABS Pressure Switch is estimated at $308.00 for parts and $40.00 for labor.All prices are estimates based on $65 per flat rate hour and do not include diagnostic time or any applicable sales tax

    air conditioning-
    moderate problem- This vehicle was originally charged with R-12 refrigerant which is no longer being manufactured. The refrigerant is still available, but it is very expensive ($25.00-$50.00 per pound, 2-5 pounds per vehicle). Conversion to the new R-134A refrigerant is possible, at an average cost of about $200-$350 parts and labor.All prices are estimates based on $65 per flat rate hour and do not include diagnostic time or any applicable sales tax.

    i kinda think that carpoint don't really know what they are talking about, generally, but it's better i find out now. any help is appreciated. thanks.

    love,
    eor
  • eeoreeor Posts: 7
    re: the value-

    i've seen the listed value of a 92 legend vary from as low as 7500 to close to 14000. what's the deal? (i checked kbb, edmunds, carpoint and some other used car sites)

    thanks
  • tcpip1tcpip1 Posts: 121
    I just bought a '94 GS. I read the same comments on carpoint as well. You can check out


    http://forums.legend.org/Forum1/HTML/010717.html


    to see what kind of problems that the 2nd generation Legends may have.

  • aculexaculex Posts: 25
    My '86 Legend's temp gague ran up to red a few years ago and that was because one of the fans (there are 2 - one for radiator and other for A/C condensor) failed. I let it cool anddrove to my mechanic.. He bought a replacement from a local junk yard that 'warranted' it for 30 days and it cost very little to replace. You should check the fan and make sure it's working properly.

    My question:

    Can anyone tell me how I can disable the ABS system in my car? I also have a 90 Legend Coupe with a failing ABS system (pressure switch?) that makes a LOUD jackhammer-like noise until it fails completely and the Anti-Lock light goes on. I would rather it just stopped working permanently. I would appreciate any advice on that.

    Thanks!
  • goralgoral Posts: 138
    For what it's worth - on my '91 w/ 121K miles, I haven't had ANY of these problems.
    My ABS doesn't work, but it's because of faulty wheel speed sensor - $120 part + couple 1-2 hours labor...
  • newpcguynewpcguy Posts: 4
    Thanks for the suggestion regarding my overheating problem.

    Regarding your ABS problem, I just had a serious ABS problem last month. When I laughed at the dealership's recommendation to pay $2600 to replace all the ABS components, the technician advised me on the sly to disable the ABS by removing the three ABS fuses in the fuse-box at the front of the engine compartment. When I looked, the fuses were clearly shown on the fuse-box diagram, and in addition my three fuses actually said something like AL or ABS or ALB right on them. I pulled the three fuses, and my problem was cured at a cost of $0! The only time an ABS is active is during an emergency stop, so the only difference is that now I have manually controlled emergency braking instead of computer controlled emergency braking. This doesn't bother me at all. None of my other cars have had ABS, so I'm used to driving with the rule everyone knew before Antilock Braking Systems were invented: "don't lock the brakes." The ABS warning light on my dashboard is lit all the time now, but I don't mind that, either.
  • aculexaculex Posts: 25
    Hey newpcguy,

    Thanks a ton for the info .. I hadn't checked this board since I last posted and by chance came across it today on a lark. Ironically, I took my car in for an oil change on Monday, and told my mechanic I wanted to disable the ABS. He knew about this problem being common to the Legend (he's a Legend fanatic himself) and simply took out the relay for the ALB. That's just about the same as your taking out the fuses. Of course, he didn't charge me for it, so like you I got a free fix. Great when things work out like that, huh? Anyway, the light is always on (doesn't bother me a bit) and the brakes are soft, but completely manageable.

    Thanks for your advice though - I hope your overheating problem has been solved - post your fix when you have some time.

    Take care.

    Goral - thanks for the response too - too bad my prob would have cost $2000 plus to fix ...
  • I'm looking to buy a 4dr 1992 Legend. It has leather and power everything. It might be the LS model. Not sure. It has 104K miles. There are a few light scratches on it and a rust spot the size of a half dollar. The belts were recently replaced. They are asking $7995. Is this reasonable? I just need something to get me buy a year or two. I do alot of city driving(120 miles a day).
  • goralgoral Posts: 138
    I am (very passively:) ) trying to sell my '91 L w/ 122K, and would like to get ~$5K - so ~$8K for car slightly "younger" w/ 20K fewer miles seems pretty reasonable (although I would shoot for ~$7K-$7.5K).
  • Hello, this is my first post to the Town Hall. I've been checking out the boards here for quite some time however. I am writing to get some advice. After reading up on several cars I have gotten my heart set on an Acura. I am a college student AND full time worker and am ONLY concerned with reliability and not having to sink much money into a car. Basically the most reliable car I can get for as little money as possible. Acuras appeal to me for that reason, although they aren't marvelously cheap. I have found an 87 Legend for $1700 with 117k on it. I am yet to actually see the car yet but I was told over the phone it has a rebuit rack + pinion, rebuilt tranny, pwe all, etc. It's an automatic by the way. What should I be looking for when I check it out? I know the timing belt and water pump are supposed to be replaced at 90k, but the guy who owns the car has only owned it since 115k (buying a new car) so how do I check to see if they have been replaced? Also, how much can I expect to sink into this car annually? I can't afford much. Should I look for a newer car? I can't spend more than $4000 off the bat. I've mainly been looking at Acuras, early 90s Toyotas, and mid-90s Nissans. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
  • qwallsqwalls Posts: 406
    Maybe it's just me, but I'm thinking if the guy has only put 2k miles on the car, and is selling it, he found out something is wrong with it. Early 90's Toyotas or Hondas, would be good, as well as mid 90's Nissans if they are in your price range. Good luck.
  • Well my question was taking for granted that everything checks out. He said he owned 3 Acuras but just got a new one so is selling this one. It's hard to find a early 90s Toyota/Honda within blue book range (and my price range). I need an automatic since my girlfriend can't drive a stick which adds some cost to it as well. Acuras of any year just sounded like the most reliable car for the money. So my question is what should I look for, how much should I expect to put in, and what do we think about this 87?
  • tcpip1tcpip1 Posts: 121
    The car may be cheap to buy, but expensive to maintain. So, it's important to check out the car for any protential problems. You can go to http://classifieds.yahoo.com/ to check the average asking price for the car in your area. If the price is cheap as compared to others, then it may have some problems (e.g., paint or body repairs). Always ask the owner for service records and whether the car has been in accidents.
  • himomerhimomer Posts: 59
    I live in Meridian, MS Legends are a real hard to find for sale but i see them on the road every where. I recently found a 97 Black 3.5RL beautiful on the outside but it reminded me of our intrigue when i drove it(sort of grandma-y), also when the Honda salesman showed it to me it was having the radio replaced and took over 2weeks and everything in the center console was ripped out, that turned me off of that car also the leather looked quite cheap but the seats were extremely comfortable. I recently found a 94 acura Legend LS, beautiful green color with tan inerior i love this car more than the RL just by looking at it, i haven't driven it yet because i would have to go pick the guy up that is selling it (he is blind and mainly works on accords and legends, but some civics) If anyone has driven both the 2nd and 3rd generation legends please let me know what you think.
  • goralgoral Posts: 138
    I own both - a '91 Legend L and '96 RL Premium. Both very nice cars, but (as you noticed) the RL suspension is very soft. It is, however, a great highway cruiser. If you want stiffer suspension, you have to go for '99 and up. Regarding looks - "to each his own"...
    Whichever you choose, you shouldn't be disappointed. The Legends seem to hold their value better (especially in GS or L/LS coupe trims).
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