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Toyota Corolla

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  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,693
    that was so cool when I bought my Trix, but have not used it at all! :-(

    Will have to try it at some point.

    Engine braking: hard on the drivetrain if you just clutch in and cause the momentum to spool up the engine. If, OTOH, you rev-match shifting to the lower gear, then no big deal, and a nice way to get a little more longevity from your brakes. I do not do this, but do allow the car's speed to drop in gear to almost stall speed before clutching, in whatever gear I am in.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,693
    corollas were kind of famous for being decontented, which might account for the deficiency in power accessories you mention. Certainly the 88-92s had more stuff standard. In addition, the VE (98-00) and CE (01-02) had skinny tires relative to those corollas of yesteryear, so you may feel a little less stability in crosswinds and stuff.

    The '03 really is several steps above the last generation of corollas. But it is also higher and has moderately light steering, so if you dislike the crosswind effect, be sure to drive the new one on the highway first to get a good feel for it.

    2 other notes: alpha is right that the curb weight of these models has not changed much (and has increased slightly each time) in more than a decade. So the weight thing is actually an illusion related to the power of the vehicle and the suspension. Also, oil changes should not have any effect on how sluggish the car feels? The new model is certainly plenty zippy, even with the automatic.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • the outlet mentioned is not a 120v outlet. it is 12v DC outlet with maximum 120w power rating.
  • tims63tims63 Posts: 14
    I would very much appreciate any thoughts on whether the following is a good price.

    1999 Corolla 4dr (white), automatic. A/C, AM/FM, cassette and rear window defroster (air bags-- std?). The price $5,800. It has 85,148 miles. I want to buy my daugher (17) something to get her through high school and a couple of years of college.

    I've looked at the TMV pricing in Edmunds, but have found all sales prices much higher than what Edmunds notes as the dealer retail. I'd appreciate any thoughts. Thanks!
  • I am unexpectedly looking for a 2nd car that is reliable, safe and affordable. (Damn Plymouth Voyager!).

    Would the 2003 Corrola be big enough for two adults and 3 kids on occasion? We've got a lovely Sienna as our main car, but need a second car. Usually, it would be one adult and one or two kids, but on rare occasions we may need to put the whole family in there.

    Any other suggestions. I'm still paying off the Sienna, so my monthly payments are a big consideration.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    It depends.

    How large are the kids?

    Out of child seats?

    How tall?

    It all matters.

    Better yet, go test drive one and see. Take everybody. You need to see how the car performs loaded and how everyone accepts being in the car!
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,693
    personally, I would think if any of those kids are teenagers, corolla might be a little small for the whole family. Also, more than one child seat would be trouble with the third kid!

    tims63: in my area that would be a good price, given all the usual checks on a used car, and that it was in a shape not to need any repairs right away. ONE THING THOUGH: the VE of that year is a 3-speed automatic, which has not been the hardiest of trannies for Toyota over the years, and makes the engine rev at like 4000 rpm to go 60 mph, so if that is a VE, I would give it a miss if it were me.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • tims63tims63 Posts: 14
    Nippononly-- Thanks for the comments.

    This is a VE automatic and it does indeed rev as you suggest. I took it on the highway and 60 to 65 seemed to be the "max" speed. On the one hand, she isn't going to be doing much highway driving (mostly school and work in the suburbs). Further, I don't have to worry about speeding on the highway.

    I take it though I may be in for some transmission problems? I also have to find a way to minimize the cigarette smoke "smell".

    Thanks again for your comments.
  • grandtotalgrandtotal Posts: 1,207
    Not sure I agree about the highway speed issue. The car is easily capable of faster speeds on the highway, it just gets very noisy. Actually it revs at about 3000RPM for 60MPH. Don't forget also that the 4th speed is a fuel saver, even around town. As for the smoke you will never completely eradicate it. For me that's two strikes against this particular car, I'd pass and find a smoke free 4 speed.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,693
    to find a comparable CE from the same year for about the same money, and that will have the 4-speed auto.

    It is true that cigarette smoke, once in there, will never come out. This has been my experience, even using professional detailing.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Posts: 932
    There's nothing quite like permanent carcinogens in a car.
  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,596
    I've gotten it out of a couple vehicles, but it takes a long time and isn't easy.

    My Corolla was smoked in before I got it by the lot boys for a couple months. Can't tell now, Febreeze works fairly good, but the biggest surprise was a Jasmin air freshener.

    Our Chevy truck was the same way, can't tell anymore that it was smoked in.

    Normally I won't buy a car that's been smoked in, yuck.
  • tims63tims63 Posts: 14
    before reading the responses. The revving and seeming lack of power on the highway does concern me. However, this will be mostly an "around town" car.

    As to the smoke-- the dealer is going to try to eliminate what they can with what they call a "car bomb" (not sure what this is). Whatever the bomb leaves behind, I'll try some combination of freshener, de-odorizer, baking soda, charcoal, etc. In addition, to thorough cleaning -- lysol or something stronger.

    Thanks, though, for the comments. I should've posted this when I first started looking at this car.
  • I've seen something called Febreeze Auto in several stores. If it's as good as I've heard, it may help eliminate the smoke smell from the interior. How it differs from regular Febreeze I do not know.

    I've also heard that using alcohol works (it evaporates and takes the smells with them) but you might want a second (or third & fourth) opinion on that.
  • grandtotalgrandtotal Posts: 1,207
    I imagine instead of leaving the smell of a meadow in spring it leaves a hint of Castrol R or something similar instead.
  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Posts: 932
    The Corolla just had its best sales month ever since 1979 selling 35,930 units in May.
  • sensei1sensei1 Posts: 196
    Another technique is turning the heater on full blast with air set on intake. Spray a can (not all of it) of Lysol into the intake vents in front of the windshield.

    Also helps kill whatever microbes are growing in your vent system.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,693
    if it could maintain that sales pace all year, it would be neck and neck with Camry for top-selling Toyota car - and THAT would be an enormous sales increase over the last five years or so!

    It was early this year that Toyota sold its 25 millionth (yes, that is MILLION) corolla ever worldwide...I can't remember for sure, but I think that made it the best-selling car of all time or something...but still not the longest continually available, which honor goes to I-forget-which, possibly Mustang?

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • tims63tims63 Posts: 14
    If you don't mind another question-- since I already bought the '99 VE (automatic)--

    Regarding the revving that will occur to hold speed greater than 60 on the highway, is this an annoyance (i.e., noise) or does it cause damage to the engine?

    Thanks
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    But I would call it more of an annoyance than anything- just be sure to keep up with all the proper preventative maintenance. Logically, revving higher will contribute to excess wear and tear as compared to driving the same speed in a Corolla with a 4 speed auto- but this engine the 1.8L has a very solid reliability record. We have a 2002 CE which is basically the same as a 99 VE and it has been incredibly solid, both mechanically and in terms of interior quality, trim, etc. I just find the 3sp annoying, and it feels very flat at some speeds, due to the fact that it CANT downshift. Fuel economy also suffers, and our 02 Camry matches it at about 28 MPG in a mix of city/hwy.

    ~alpha
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,693
    obviously the designers of the VE knew people would drive it on the highway, so that will not cause damage. But it will wear more on the engine than comparable models with the 4-spd will, and it will cost more than 5 points in fuel economy for highway travel. Mainly, I always found the high revving annoying if I got one as a rental, and I would be mindful of the increased wear if I was an owner. It is probably more important to keep oil changes frequent with the VE than with other corollas.

    Hey, corolla is on track to beat civic for annual sales by more than 50K this year!

    http://www.autosite.com/editoria/asmr/svsedan.asp

    ...and civic's numbers include the sedan AND the coupe, which corolla doesn't even have! This may be the first year in a long time this has occurred - civic has been the perennial leader for years. I guess Toyota is getting due credit for erasing some of the decontenting that occurred in 1998, as well as making corolla more sporty and comfortable. And so it should! :-)

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    I'm pretty sure that Corolla sales DO include those of the Matrix, as the Matrix's offcial name(for sales reporting purposes, I believe)is the Corolla Matrix.

    ~alpha
  • dunworthdunworth Posts: 338
    The Civic and its Acura 1.7EL variant still outsell the Corolla here in the Great White North. I am not sure why that is Honda overall outsells Toyota up here, which must be one of the few major car markets in the world that happens.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,693
    I forgot that - thanks for tempering my out-of-control enthusiasm!

    I wonder which sells more, civic coupes or Matrix.

    :-)

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Posts: 932
    I believe the old Beetle model is the best selling single model. Corolla is the best selling nameplate world wide. The Beetle beat out the Model T some time back, I believe.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,693
    corolla is also a single model...its nameplate is Toyota, right?

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Posts: 932
    The Corolla name is used on cars through out the world. I believea almost every country where Toyotas are sold, a Corolla product is sold. However, that model greatly varies. There is the typical Japan version, the American version, and usually a European one. The Japan one and American are similar, but I believe (at least in the past) the European one was much more different than the other two. That may not be the case now, though. Put it this way: the Corolla name is attached to more cars sold worldwide than any other model name.
  • veetek99veetek99 Posts: 4
    I notice that when you start this car that it sounds really loud, then after running for a bit it quiets down. Why is the idle so loud at start up on this car? My other car is an '02 Civic LX and it doesn't sound near as loud on start up. Does this sound normal or not? Thanks for any replies.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    It's normal.

    It's an emissions thing.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,693
    is on target to exceed 300K sales this year - I wonder how long it has been since it has done that. The sales seem to indicate that the redesign last year really resounded with car buyers.

    It is soundly trouncing civic for the first time in a long while (to the tune of 3000 more sales every month) and has 50% more sales than the next compact competitor: cavalier. Cav will have many more fleet sales as a percentage too.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

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