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Toyota Corolla



  • corolla03corolla03 Posts: 17
    The smell does seem to be a lot less if we fill up with premium BP/Amoco gas. BP says that their premium gas is low sulphur in our area (Atlanta). But, in the interest of fair advertising, don't you think Toyota should tell Corolla buyers that if they do not use premium gas, their car will smell like a sewer?
  • boilermanboilerman Posts: 35
    Like an old advertiser here in my area, "I do not care about the customers, I just LOVE to make money", is Toyota's 2003 new slogan!
  • canccanc Posts: 715
    You are wasting your money by putting premium in your Corolla. The engine is designed for peak efficiency when using regular fuel.
  • juliansjulians Posts: 42
    I have a 1992 Corolla with 148,000 miles. It has been maintained very well and seems to be going fine. I have been looking to trade it in for a new one but the trade in value is not even enough to pay tax on a new one. Is it time to get a new one anyhow? How far have your old Corolla's gone?
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,426
    Corollas last a long time. My Father had a Corolla that went 220,000 miles, and was reliable the whole time. It died because the timing belt (it was only changed once at 90k) broke, otherwise it would have lasted longer.

    I would think you can get 50k reliable miles out of your Corolla, maybe much more.
  • If your Corolla isn't falling apart or consumes too much oil/gas or costs more to repair/maintain then financing/leasing a new one or you want a new car so badly that that thought gives you trouble doing your daily business, do not replace your car. I mean, new cars are nice but you don't want to throw away your good car. And to me trading in values are almost like throwing it away. You may want to visit other discussions like 'Drive till it dies' here.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    the only way you will get any real $$ for that corolla is to sell it privately - do not trade it in, as they do not want that type of car for resale and will just wholesale it out, so they will only give you a few hundred $$ for it.

    The last corolla I owned went to 249K, reliable the whole time...keep it a while!

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    Although our 94 Corolla Wagon has given us no problems, my confidence in Toyota reliability has been lessened recently.
        A friend has an 87 Corolla with 166,000 miles and cannot get it to pass emissions test. Mechanics say it has a rather uncommon, weird carburetor that is very difficult to work on.
        Meanwhile I see old American brand clunkers with many more miles that are still running and passing emissions tests.
  • grandtotalgrandtotal Posts: 1,207
    Has your friend tried taking it to a Toyota dealership to see if they can fix it?
  • dave594dave594 Posts: 218
    your 94 corolla doesn't have a carburetor, it's fuel injected. Therefore you wouldn't have the problem your friend has on his 87 corolla. If you say your car hasn't had problems then that's a good thing. Modern cars have gotten a lot more reliable and your car should go 200,000 miles with no problem.
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  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    the older carbureted cars have been chased off the roads in the last few years by the big bad smog check - carburetors just were not very good at regulating emissions, fuel injection is much better. Corollas and Tercels began to be fuel-injected right around 1990, with the hotted-up models (GTS) getting FI a couple of years earlier.

    If you look carefully, it is the higher end 80s cars that are still around, for all brands...this is because the more expensive cars got fuel injection first...the same is true for Toyota, which was fuel injecting the celica, cressida, and supra in 1983 and the van and all trucks in 1984 and 1985.

    Maintaining smog compliance on an older car is like night and day when comparing between carbureted and fuel injected cars.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,426
    Fuel injection is much better for emissions and also for performence and fuel economy. I think all VW's had FI by 1979-80, and I am sure they all did by 1985 when the golf came out. For some reason Honda and Toyota were slow to follow.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    I still want Toyota to introuce an XLE Corolla, and want larger engine and a real suspension option for at least the S models (and larger engine standard in my proposed XLE). With Mitsubishi introducing a 160hp Lancer next year, Nissan offering a 165 hp Sentra as well as a mainstream sporty model (SE-R, SPEC V), I see no reason why Toyota cant consider this. As for the XLE model, its time the Jettas has a rival.

    I'm also still wondering why Toyota failed to introduced side airbags with head protection with the redesign (though ALL of the Corollas crash test scores are very good).

    When I was in the market for a small car some months ago, I was duly impressed by the Corolla, but the S model I would have wanted felt a lot slower than it looked, had those silly side sill extensions, and was only available with every option except the ones I wanted- ABS and side airbags.

    IMO if Toyota wants to penetrate the youth market, they need to do it by creating enhanced images for products well respected in other arenas. Anyone remember the Corolla GT-S two doors from the late 80s? Or the FX16 hatchbacks?

    Personally, I'd like to see Toyota kill the overpriced ECHO, forget the inevitable failure that will be Scion, and refocus energy on the Corolla line.

  • pulgopulgo Posts: 400
    I have a 2001 Echo that barely cost 11000. 62k miles so far. No repairs of any type. Only gas, oil and filters. 42MPG average with an automatic and AC running very often. Best car I have ever had! As soon as the new hatchback comes out in June I'll get one as a third car(not vailable in the US). By the way, the Corolla is very nice but not so good on gas, less acceleration and about $ 3000 more. Not economical enough for me with my daily 90 mile commute.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    have sold a lot more Echoes if they had brought out a hatchback in the U.S. in the first place.

    You got a good deal at $11K CDN for an Echo with auto and A/C! That seems amazing!

    dudley - rabbits weren't fuel-injected right? And I know that GTIs were the only fuel-injected golfs when they were introduced in 1983.

    OTOH, by 1985, the only non-FI Toyotas were corolla and tercel, which were the two cheapest models, and were cheaper than VW golfs and jettas. The camry had just been introduced at that point, as a little car and hatchback, and it was fuel-injected.

    I do agree that Toyota should have brought FI to the remaining two models more quickly than it did.

    alpha - I loved that FX16 hatch! If Toyota brought a car like that to market today, I bet it would sell really well.

    Of course, if it had to pick between a 2004 FX16 and this corolla XLE that has been proposed, I bet the XLE would sell better. It would have to have more power (the RAV4 engine, maybe?) and a much nicer interior than the LE though. This meaning that they would have to get rid of lots of that hard plastic, and replace it with softer-touch materials like Jetta has. A moonroof should be standard.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • grandtotalgrandtotal Posts: 1,207
    You got a good deal at $11K CDN for an Echo with auto and A/C! That seems amazing!

    Too amazing to be true I'm afraid. Either it was not new or pulgo converted his/her price to US$. US$11000 is still pretty amazing for what you get though.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    The RAV4 engine (which is related to the Camry 4cly) is exactly what I was thinking, but I'm sure theres production/logistical issues with introducing a new engine option. In a nutshell, I'd like to see Toyota kill the stupid S model, introduce an SE and XLE 4-door, kill the Echo, and bring back Corolla hatches, to include, of course, an equivalent of the FX16 series, and a strippo VE.

    Sorry pulgo, but with decent equipment, like a tach, 15 in. wheels, air, etc., the Echo quickly approaches/exceeds the price of a Corolla CE, which has all those things standard. Plus, the Echo is ugly, and feels like it will flip over in a crosswind (or at least did when I drove a 2001 through NY state last year). I dont know where you are obtaining your acceleration info, but the Corolla seems to be the winner from what I've seen (Car and Driver, 5sp manual models). And the Corolla gets up to what...40 mpg with a stick?... hardly anything to scoff at, even if its worse than Echo. At the very least, if Toyota must continue the Echo, it should be priced against the Accent with which it competes.

  • pulgopulgo Posts: 400
    I have to clarify my previous statement. I did pay a little over US$ 11000 for my Echo.

    I drove the Accent for a few days. In fact I rented a brand new one for a week.

    For those who have driven both cars (Echo and Accent), there just is no comparison. The automatic Echo gets better mileage than the manual Accent (combined), due to the better engine and fuel injection technology.

    For those who want to spend the minimum possible amount for a car, yes, the Accent is a very good option.

    For me there was no doubt whatsoever.

    Where I live, we have high winds on an almost daily basis. Yes the car is sensitive to side winds but not that much.

    My previous car was a Chevrolet Caprice that was completely immune from high winds so I know the difference.

    Have I mentioned that I like the Corolla? Yes I do but my goal was buying a car that would be as inexpensive as possible, give me a very long service with a minimum in maintenance and monthly repairs. So far repairs are 0. Maintenance has been oil changes every 8k miles (synthetic oil), 2 air filters, 1 set of platinum spark plugs, 1 cabin air filter. That's it, not even a light bulb to replace. What more can I wish for?

    Well, I would love an Audi A6 with the turbodiesel engine they sell in Germany, but that's another story.

    I wish everybody a great weekend and don't be mad with me if I still like my Echo better than other small cars. It's just a matter of personal taste.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,426
    If you love the A-6, the Passat will be available this fall with a 130 hp turbo diesel engine. About 250 lb/ft of torque. A whole lot cheaper than the A-6, and with the fuel economy of an Echo.
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