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Toyota Corolla

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  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    If she got an LE auto with side airbags, ABS, alloys, sunroof, and leather (or even without sunroof & leather), an out the door price of 18K would be reasonable (outstanding with sunroof and leather). In NJ, Corollas are in short supply and are selling at or near MSRP. If you look on carsdirect.com, you'll see that that internet retailer is selling slighty above MSRP. I have never seen a Camry advertised for 18K, that must be for the oh so popular manual tranny with no options.
    ~alpha
  • reesesreeses Posts: 6
    Do I have it right that Corollas come with a 3 yr/36000 mi warranty? I looked in the manual and couldn't find any info or maybe I just missed it.
    If so then I have about a week left. Any way, the problem is that the plastic that frames the inside of the driver's side door has warped due to the hot summers we have in Houston. What I'm wondering is will the warranty cover the cost of fixing this and if it doesn't how much would it cost to fix it. Right now it's just hanging there and it's warped to where it can't even be pushed back into place at all. Any response would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
  • canccanc Posts: 715
    Yes, you're right about the duration of that warranty. Toyotas also come with a 5 year/60,000 mile powertrain warranty (engine and transmission).

    By all means, get that plastic replaced before your warranty expires! It shouldn't have done that, regardless of how hot your summers are.
  • I have to say, I'm very surprised by some of the nitpicky comments made on the ratings page for the 2003 Corolla. How much exactly should we expect from an economy car? I was amazed at the standard features of the 2003 and impressed by the ride as well. I also think the 2002 Civic is a great car, but ultimately went with the Corolla because my wife and I have always owned Toyotas and because the overall feel of the Corolla when we test drove it was better.

    The truth is, I would be perfectly happy with either car, and both the Honda and Toyota dealers we talked with offered good prices without a lot of haggling. Ultimately, I purchased and am waiting for the delivery of a 2003 Corolla LE with side air bags, ABS, the upgraded stereo package, and a couple other little things. The price I'm paying is about $17,300.00 out the door. The prices I was offered by the Honda dealers were pretty comparable to that.

    Thanks.

    David
  • canccanc Posts: 715
    I think you got a good deal. I'd say that if the Civic was the same price as the Corolla, I would also go for the Corolla, not just because I like Toyotas as well, but because of the value the Corolla offers over the Civic.
  • mpynempyne Posts: 120
    anyone have a japanese built 2003 corolla for long enough to see if any problems have arisen?? My car only has 900 miles on it so its to soon to tell.
  • nvcolornvcolor Posts: 9
    I bought my Corolla (LE, AT)in March of this year. At the time I bought it, I was doing quite a bit of driving and I have already put on 12,000+ miles. Some of my notes:
    1. Check engine light has come on twice. Both times were during 450 mile trips, while I had a/c running. The light came on about halfway through the trip, after I had stopped for 20 minutes or so. I took the vehicle in the first time, and the dealership checked the codes and found nothing wrong. The second time, the light went off 1 day later, before I had a chance to get the car to the dealer.
    2. My car was one of the first built (US made), so I was affected by the early recall. I found out about the recall on this site, and dealer corrected it at first service.

    That is it, as far as problems are concerned. No rattles, squeaky brakes, the fit is good, and I am very happy with my purchase. The car suits my needs (basic commuting, now) very well. It is not our main family transport vehicle, but my wife, two kids, dog, and luggage can fit in it very comfortably if we have to. My best mpg was 42, on a trip between Kansas City and Minneapolis. I had a slight tailwind, and the a/c was off - 70 to 75 mph the whole way. My overall mpg, city and highway, remains at about 33-34. FWIW, my previous vehicle was a Mazda Millenia, and I am convinced the Corolla has just as much interior room as the Mazda. Plus, maintenance is more reasonable, and the timing chain vs timing belt is a huge selling point in my opinion.
  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Posts: 932
    My 1996 Corolla DX has put me into a very frustrating situation. Since its purchase in January, the rear-left power window has stopped working, the shifter column light has burnt out, aftermarket sunroof has broken and I found that the car does not have anti-lock brakes as I was told it did by the last owner. All of these problems have been around for a few months but just recently I had the sunroof checked. I was told that the Vanmuelen-Hollandia sunroof's motor would need to be replaced at a cost of several hundred dollars...just a few more hundred would replace the sunroof. However, it is a non-standard sized one (of course for my luck). It used to tilt and slide back but now only tilts and I was told not to open it at all because the motor could go out and I'd be left with an open sunroof. This is my first car and you can see I am very frustrated. I didn't intend to buy a car with a glass window in the roof nor a car without ABS. I can always sell it and I did get a good deal on it so it may be possible for me to sell it at or above the price I paid. I don't want to lose too much money on the deal if I did. I could also keep the vehicle until next summer when 1998-1999 Celicas (the car I'd want to replace it with) are lower in price. Having the Corolla for another year would help me to continue gaining experience without the struggle of dealing with a sporty car. Any suggestions or insight? Your thoughts are much appreciated.

    And just to sum up my point--it's not like I want a different car because I don't like the way it looks (because I think this is one of the best looking small sedans made at that time) but because the features that I wanted don't exist anymore--ABS and power sunroof were the reasons I bought this car over all others.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,746
    It's pretty simple, actually. Just ask yourself if you can live for another year with a car that has a power rear window that doesn't work, a sunroof that doesn't open, and no ABS, while you save up for your Celica. A lot of people drive cars without power windows, sunroofs, and ABS. Shoot, my car has power windows but no sunroof or ABS, and I like it just fine. Also find out how much cheaper those 98-99 Celicas really will be one year from now. They've already had their steepest depreciation, so one more year won't make all that much difference, maybe a couple of thousand if that. Also find out for how much you could sell a six-year-old Corolla with a non-operating window and a non-operating sunroof. Prospective buyers may be turned off by those failings as much as you are, and you'll need to drop the price accordingly.
  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Posts: 932
    Yeah Backy...and besides...who uses a sunroof in the winter anyway? Plus I lock my other windows so my sister and her friends don't put them up and down. :-D I'll stick it out for a year. But also Backy, you knew what you were getting in your car...I didn't know what I was getting, well I actually I did but it only lasted for a little while. You'd be surprised to see how expensive 1996-1997 Corollas are in the Cincinnati area. Dealers are charging at least $9,000 for Corollas with not nearly as many options as mine has.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    Coolguyky7, you've impressed me with your maturity and judgment since your very first post. That being said, be SURE to check insurance rates on that Celica before you even think of buying one. Insurance companies + young males + even a hint of sporty often = MUCH MONEY.

    Maybe not in this case, but I have seen it happen too often. The time to know what the insurance is going to cost is BEFORE you buy the car.

    That being said, I hope this works out for you. My advice, too, would be to wait, but this is a close call.
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    My drivers side rear window on my '96 DX also works but then it stops working for a couple of months, then it works again. Some sort of gremlin in there. I also had to replace the bulb in the shifter, wasn't a big deal though. Don't have a sunroof or ABS, so not a problem. All I can say is to get the shifter light fixed and keep the power windows in the lock position. Live with the broken sunroof and save up your money for about a year. The car drives flawlessly otherwise and you're young enough, so bite the bullet for a bit longer.
    On a side note, am renting a new Camry this weekend and man, does it drive smoothly! A little to big for me, but what a car!

    The Sandman :-)
  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Posts: 932
    Yes, I'm hoping that the insurance rates on the last generation Celica are lower than what would be expected since it's more of a sporty coupe, having only 130 horsepower. I would definitely investigate that. Also, because I'm so picky, I may just wait until a car like I desire comes along in the local market...and since I am so picky...I just might be waiting longer than next summer. :-) Thanks for your opinions everyone.

    Amd another thing on insurance...this girl my age has a 98 Eclipse convertible and either her insurance was very reasonable or was twice what I pay, depending on if the $900 was semi-annual or annual.
  • luckykluckyk Posts: 11
    Just picked up 2003 Corolla S. Great internet purchase experience. $14926 before taxes. Had to order. Took 4 weeks. No power problems with 4 cyl on Calif highways. What a relief. 35 mpg on first tank. I'm impressed.

    Question: I'm in the service and have to go through a military gate to get to work. At night, we are asked to dim our lights as we approach. I can't figure out how to do that. The daytime running light systems seems to have taken over control of the headlights. Even when I manually turn on the headlights after starting but before disengaging the parking brake, the level of intensity reduction going from headlights on to parking lights is not sufficient.

    What button/procedure am I missing?
  • mbbstimsmbbstims Posts: 16
    Hello Toyota lovers!

    Believe it or don't,My 2003 Corolla CE is the first car I have ever owned with AC.
    Recently, I went on a several hundred mile trip.About 3 hours (maybe more) into the trip the AC became warmer and warmer until it was not effective at all.I turned it off for a few hours and when I turned it back on it was ok for another 3 hours or so.The weather during the trip was very hot.Is this normal for car ACs?

    Also,a couple of my windows seem to be loose.(a little "sloppy" in the channels).They crank ok though).If you grab the glass you can move it up and down about an inch.Is this normal? 6000 miles on the car.

    THANK YOU ,mbbstims
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    You are going to discover there is no way to do what you want to do, short of turning off the engine. The automatic headlight feature, which I really like, is going to override whatever you do with the steering column switch, period. If the guards can't handle that, then I guess the world will have to come to an end.

    As an ex-Army brat, and AF vet, I know of course of the signs you are referring to. I guess they'll just have to somehow make allowances for your car, because I know of no way to override the system on the '03 - it takes its cue from the little button you see on the dash on the driver's side. That is the sensor for the automatic headlights. I guess you could carry a flashlight and shine it on the sensor, but my guess is that would get the guards' pants even more in a bunch...
  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Posts: 932
    Has anyone seen a Corolla with leather yet? If you've gotten the chance to get in...what was it like?
  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Posts: 932
    Alright, post 2000! I was able to remove a large white scuff mark on my car today that has been on it since I bought it. I used a product called Goof Off and carefully applied it using a Q-Tip and then wiped off the area with water after I dabbed it with the chemical. Works great and looks great!
  • mralanmralan Posts: 174
    Can anyone else report on their gas mileage on the 03 Corolla with automatic tranny?

    I'm trying to decide between a Corolla and the ECHO.
  • luckykluckyk Posts: 11
    jrct9454 - thanks for the validation of what I feared might be the case.

    What's up with that?

    I knew I'd get an answer here! Who would have ever thought I'd have to check the lights would turn off as a part of the research and purchase process? I should have been visiting the town hall more often but I just got back from a 6 mos deployment and.....well....just didn't have the access.

    Hey, I tried to start a 2003 specific discussion. Was turned off by the sedan moderator. What's up with that?

    You new Corolla owners......is this something we need? There's not even an owner's club thread on the new Corollas. Am I in left field here?

    I've been visiting this town hall since '99. Infrequent poster, however. So is that reason to shut me out of starting a discussion that certainly has a place in this town hall? One of the great things about this site used to be that the post'ers ran the show. Guess it's gotten too big.

    Opinions?
  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Posts: 932
    There is a Corolla/Matrix owners club.
  • behhppbehhpp Posts: 51
    I think that a 2003 Corolla topic would be good, and was disappointed to see it eliminated by the host.

    mralan, I have only driven 250 miles in my new Corolla, and it was all city driving with the AC running at all times, and I got 28 MPG. Maybe others with more miles under different conditions will comment, but that is what I got.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    Our '03 LE automatic now has about 3300 miles on it, and we have been averaging about 29-30 mpg in short-runs around the suburbs for shopping and such, and 32-35 mpg when it has a chance to stretch its legs. I would say overall right now is about 31-32. I put synthetic oil in it at 2500 miles, but there is still some breaking-in to be done. It has become noticeably more willing to rev and a bit quieter in the last 1000 miles or so.

    Also [knock on wood], our NUMMI-built car [March] has had none of the interior noises that have plagued some others on the board. About the worst thing I can dredge up is that when the interior gets really hot from sitting in the sun, the inside mirror likes to vibrate at speed. I've tried tightening the mounting as much as I dare, and now tend to ignore it if it happens. Otherwise, we are very pleased with the car in just about every respect.
  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Posts: 932
    I just noticed today that the 1996 and 1997 Corollas have different door panel designs. What is up with that? Why would Toyota have changed it in that model's last year of production? The 1996 has a padded area just below the window and has more cloth. The 1997 model is more like the 1998-02 generation door panel design.
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    I noticed that also after I'd bought my '96. Like the '97 door panel much better, a more integrated look IMHO. Oh well, can't have everything.
    On a side note, rented a '02 Camry this weekend, AWESOME!!!!!

    The Sandman :-)
  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Posts: 932
    I think the 1997 one looks more modern but the 1996 seems a little more upscale and I'd say it is since there was some decontenting in models...particularly the new 1997 Camry.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Very true. There is a marked difference in interior design and quality between our leased 1997/2000 Camrys and the 2002 that we purchased earlier this year. I feel the new one has been significantly recontented, and the older cars rival.. sad to say... GM in execution. For example, the sunglass holder in the 02 deploys with smoothness befitting of a Lexus, and has a gear hinge design. The same sunglass holder inthe 2000 practically falls out of the ceiling when you try to use it. In addition, after 35,000 miles the adhesion on the ugly black plastic surrounds on the gearshift and dimmer switches is becoming loose, and the latch on the center armrest literally broke off in my mom's hand.
    I'm glad Toyota has picked up the pace in terms of interior design quality.. they really fell off there for awhile.

    I'm sorry for that slight digression, but I thought it was warranted given your talk of decontenting.

    Also- in 1997, the US Gov't mandated side impact protection standards, which, I am assuming, neccessitated Toyota's reinforcing the door structures- that probably has more to do with the different design than anything else.

    ~alpha
  • Here's an update for those of you who still
    have your mysterious 'dashboard' sound. I originally posted in MSG 1822 about the
    rattle which sounded like it was coming from up near the windshield on the right and left side.

    It started when I had 200 miles on the odometer and it was most noticeable when I was driving
    slowly over bumpy/washboard surfaces.

    Well I finally took it in today to get the
    oil changed at 2000 miles. I gave them
    a printout with some of the other solutions
    I had seen on this board, including the one
    where they replaced the crash panel insulation.

    While this is only based on today's drive home,
    the sounds are gone. Here is the diagnosis
    that was printed on my invoice.

    "Found strut top mounts rubbing around the bolts
    and the fender. Applied foam tape around top
    of the strut top and around studs to prevent rubbing fender."

    If there are any further developments, I'll post again, but as of now the cabin is tranquil.
  • terceltom1terceltom1 Posts: 150
    Just in case your wondering the headlights can not be turned off in the "01","02" or the "03" Corollas. By the way, Lucky, What branch of the military are you in?
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    Those of you with noises from what sounds like the dash area need to pay attention to the above post - I would call this a breakthrough kind of insight on the part of some technician, or perhaps the factory has figured out the problem. In any case, this is not an intuitive solution, and is all the more important for that reason.
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