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Toyota Corolla

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  • lfanlfan Posts: 61
    In my experience, the fixed price dealer (www.fitzgeraldautomall.com) that I have made 2 car purchases has highly competitive prices. My '03 Corolla was priced $400 over invoice. Another "negotiable" dealer told me $1K over invoice and it's non-negotiable since the '03 was such a new model.

    So go figure. . .
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    "The car exhibits an overall refinement that noticeably enhanced in contrast to the previous models. No doubt, Toyota recognized that the Corollas chief competitor, the popular Honda Civic, has long held high cards for refinement in class. Engineers proudly note that Corolla standards of panel fit, for instance, now match those previously adopted for Lexus interiors. High standards indeed."
    Car&Driver


    http://www.roadandtrack.com/RoadAndTrack/first_drives/0202_toyota_matrix_and_corolla.html
  • I wonder if anyone has any advice on "dealing" with dealers in Southeast region. I have heard that there is something peculiar about this geographic region. I did my research and decided that 2003 corolla CE is a good replacement for my old Mazda protégé. I printed a decent offer from carsdirect.com (250$ below MSRP) and I am planning to ask the dealer to at least match it. Unfortunately, all cars on the lot have worthless options (including $610 Toyo Guard). I guess I will have to ask for factory order or similar to get my options. It sounds like some dealers request a deposit for such an order. Is it reasonable to object to this deposit? Also, how long it takes to get delivery. Thanks,
    Jacek
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    I have no solutions to your problems, and as noted before, have offered sympathies to anyone who has to deal with these clowns.

    The problem is that this distributorship for this region is not owned by Toyota Motor. It is independently owned, they know they have a good thing, and they are not about to sell it to Toyota at any reasonable price the company wants to pay. The result is what you see: they tack on extra charges at every turn, and make anywhere from $100-$700 or more per car than Toyota extracts from its other regional operations. Due to the iron-clad nature of American franchise laws, there is nothing that the dealers, the customers, or Toyota themselves, can do about this.

    The history here goes back to the days when Toyota was a struggling new company in the USA, and needed help getting started in this country. They successfully took over all of the distributorships in the rest of the country as their market presence grew and they became financially stronger, but the people who owned the SE Region knew a gold mine when they saw it, and refused to sell. And here we are...
  • mike1qazmike1qaz Posts: 93
    I currently own a Honda and am thinking about the 03 corolla as a 2nd car. Buying Hondas on the internet has been relatively painless, but, since I live in Louisiana, I assume I'll have to deal with the SE regional dist that is being talked about on this forum. Does anyone know if factory orders/internet purchases are also subject to their addons because the vehicle is delivered into their territory? Also, does anyone know what their boundaries are, I'm not opposed to traveling several hundred miles to pickup my new vehicle.
  • aaron300zaaron300z Posts: 19
    I sent and email to a dealer in South Florida to order a 2003 Corolla S 5 speed and they told me that there is a charge of around $565 for the SE regional distributor.

    Can anybody please tell me how much is that fee for real ? I find that fee to be too high.

    Thanks
    Aaron
  • wrightgmwrightgm Posts: 9
    Due to the high demand for this car I took a slightly different bargaining approach. Instead of bargaining down the sticker price of the car I tried to bargain up the price on my trade-in ('91 Tercel with a faulty oil pan, worn out clutch, leaky exghaust, old tires and a couple other problems on top). I managed to get $1000 for my trade-in since the body is still in good shape (very little rust) and that is about $700 more than I expected for it. I then used the Toyota graduate plan to get another $500 off the price so in the end I paid $22 500 CAN for my Corolla LE. In truth I expect I saved about $700 from MSRP due to my trade in. No point in haggling when the person behind you is ready to buy the exact same car, they just won't listen to you.
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  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Posts: 1,467
    And from what I have read, I cannot get a Camry SE I4 with a 5spd, nor can I get the Corolla LE with the 5spd, so the Toyotas get kicked off my list.

    Whoever said something about the SE region adding "useless options," is telling the truth. I went to the Toyota dealer in my area, and I looked at a Camry XLEV6 that had splash guards(Black: $138) Sunroof wind deflector: 90 TOYOGuard: $610 I WILL NEVER EVER PAY FOR THOSE OPTIONS!!!!!!

    Also, what really got to me was the fact that on another Camry XLE, this one a 4 cylinder, had leather added to the car which cost more than the optional packages that includes leather, the sunroof and the CD6 changer. That's outrageous! No way, we don't have this problem at the Nissan, Honda, Mazda or VW dealerships.
  • lfanlfan Posts: 61
    I lost the thread where you were looking for a 5spd LE. However, the fitzgeraldsautomall dealer in MD had a 5spd LE for about a week before it was sold this weekend.

    5spd LE's are made but the vast majority of 5spds are on the S model.
  • sbell4sbell4 Posts: 446
    Southeast Toyota (S.E.T.) is the largest privately owned distributor in the world and the owner is mainly responsible for bringing Lexus to the United States. It serves NC.,SC.,GA. AL. and FL. S.E.T. buys the vehicles from the factory and sells them to the 164 dealers in this region. S.E.T. charges the dealer an admin fee that will average $565. This fee may sound high but there isn't any other TDA fees or advertising added so the amount is no different then any other part of the country when it comes down to the bottom line. S.E.T. uses that money for many different programs, rebates, incentives, options and other dealer support programs that the rest of the country can't have or do. We sell more then 25% of all the Toyotas in the United States out of this 5 state region and have the highest customer satisfaction scores to go with the volume.

    "Port" options are options that are available to the 164 dealers in this region. The vehicles come from the factory to either Commerce, Ga. or Jacksonville, Fl. to S.E.T.'s distribution center where "OPTIONS" (which means you do not have to have if you do not want it) are added to the vehicles. If you want a vehicle with no "port" options, all you have to do is ask. The vehicle will be delivered to the dealer just the way you want it. The time frame should be within 10-15 days if not sooner because we can see what all 164 dealers have in stock, what is at the "port" facilities, what are on the trucks, trains and ships coming into this region and we have the ability to trade and buy vehicles with each other through S.E.T.'s mainframe.

    People from everywhere buy from S.E.T. dealers because:
    (1) Customer Service
    (2) We have the availability of thousands of vehicles every month
    (3) Price
    (4) Option that you can only get in this region

    I would be happy to answer any questions you may have about S.E.T. If I do not know the answer I will find out from the proper people because this region cares about its customers and provides a service that is not equal to anyone else in the United States if not the world.
  • is300tm7is300tm7 Posts: 20
    I just helped my g/f get Corolla LE for Invoice price, so don't pay sticker!. I went through email , where i emailed dealers within 100 miles with options i want and color and asked for best price, one dealer offered me at Invoice price. Happy shopping, btw, i am from s.cal
  • eharri3eharri3 Posts: 645
    I checked the oil lever on my Mom's 1.6 this weekend and the dipstick came out bone dry! Turns out she'd been driving around for a week like that with the engine running fine, the only clue something was wrong was that the light came on. It took over 3 quarts to get it to the full level again! My mom asked if driving with little or no oil could have caused permanent damage. My best guess was that whatever residual oil had been left coating the engine had been enough to keep it sufficiently lubricated for a few days, but there still could be damage. But if there was, she might as well just drive the car until the problems showed and then figure out what to do from there than pay for an expensive engine tear down when there might not even be a problem. Anybody else got any suggestions? Should I have told her different?
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    No, that's the right advice, but wow...last time that happened to me was age 18 [39 years ago...] when my English Ford ran nearly bone dry for [I'm ashamed to say] several miles on the freeway until the temp gauge said to look under the hood, dummy. After filling the crankcase, this less-than-stellar example of fine British engineering ran for many more years with no symptoms and no further excessive oil consumption. Big Mystery...

    It's probably OK, and frankly, there isn't anything you or she can do about it now except monitor oil consumption and hope for the best.
  • mbnut1mbnut1 Posts: 403
    Corollas are remarkable for their durablity to low oil level. Based on watching how my girlfriend manages her oil level in her '95 I'm half convinced that they can run with out any oil in them at all. She routinely runs it two quarts low and often waits until either she hears lifter clatter or sees the oil light coming on. The car does use oil. Big suprise huh. But it runs as quiet and as smooth as new. I keep telling her she should give it back to Toyota as a testament to the car's durability.
  • paul_ppaul_p Posts: 271
    Just curious, how many miles on your girlfriend's '95 Corolla?
  • hawkberthawkbert Posts: 21
    Yesterday my oil light came on whenever I stopped quickly or turned quickly, so I checked my oil and discovered I was two quarts low. Considering that my oil was changed about 2400 miles ago, this seems unusual. I added non-synthetic 5W30 Pennzoil.

    I parked the car in a spot with no oil on the ground and checked it the next morning, and there weren't any drips. The engine is also very clean. I've never noticed smoke coming out of my tailpipe either, and neither have my friends when they've driven behind me a couple times.

    I've heard that Honda engines tend to burn oil at high RPMs. Could this be true of my car as well? I normally shift at 3000-3500 RPM, but I recently made a 120-mile round trip to a neighboring city where my average speed was 90 MPH (about 4000 RPM). There's also this straight, empty road near my house that I do fast runs on sometimes just for fun. I shift around 5000 RPM then.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,426
    Driving 90 for 120 miles will burn much more oil than usual (but not 2 quarts). Keep an eye on the level - as long as your consumption does not get worse you should be fine. Fill your oil then lay off of the high rpms for a thousand miles and check - then you will see how many quarts you are using per thousand miles. How many miles are on the car?

    Did you change the oil yourself last time? Was it full to the top? A quick lube place might not have filled it correctly, so you may have started with less oil. Or if you used a larger filter, but still put in the usual amount of oil - that could affect the reading.

    Also make sure to read the before and after with the car in the same spot. Small slopes on the road can make a large diff in oil readings (my car reads .7 qt less when it is parked on the street than when it is in the garage - because of the crown in the road)
  • hawkberthawkbert Posts: 21
    I had the oil changed at a full service place, not a quick lube place. I trust them to do good work, but I didn't check my oil after they changed it so I can't say for sure. The car has about 86000 miles on it.

    Lay off the high RPM's for 1000 miles? 4-5 weeks? Ugh...high RPMs are the only thing that makes this car fun to drive. :-p
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