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Toyota Corolla



  • yiceteayicetea Posts: 2
    I got similar problem, plus rattles from dashboard (see message 1852). I went to dealer several times. First time, they heard the noise and ask me to come back because they thought I need a loaner car. So I went back, then they couldn't hear the noise! But the noise really bothers me, so I went back again a few days later, and took the test drive with their technician. Fortunately, he heard the noise again and said it would long long time to find out why. They put me on loaner car waiting list. Three weeks passed, I heard nothing from them yet!

    I am thinking go to another dealer when I need to change oil next time.
  • mtyfmtyf Posts: 19
    I apologize if this topic has been covered at an earlier time, I just didn't want to go through all 1943 messages!

    I am really trying to decide between the 2002 Civic LX and the 2003 Corolla LE. They seem fairly equally priced, and basically it seems to come down to the CD player on the Corolla, or cruise control on the Civic. Any opinions either way? To be fair I haven't test driven the Corolla but I enjoyed driving the Civic.

    Bear in mind I'm a barely-surviving grad student so if you have any info about cost advantages I'm all ears. Thanks!
  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Posts: 932
    Corolla LE has 15 more horsepower than Civic LX. Yet, it has the same or better mileage. Take that for whatever it's worth in your decision.
    Corolla Civic
    Manual 32/40 33/39
    Automatic 30/39 30/38

    Corolla also has a longer drivetrain 2 years and 24,000 miles.
  • mtyfmtyf Posts: 19
    Thanks! When I was considering older, used models (2000s) I was able to feel the difference in horsepower, the civic seeming to have a little less punch accelerating onto the freeway.
    What about safety ratings? are they pretty much equal?
    And one more question for now - does either come with an anti-theft system, or do you know how much it costs to have a dealer-installed alarm system?

    Again, thanks for any info!
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Posts: 4,202
    but a Civic will still keep up with a Corolla even with the hp disadvantage. Civic also has a fully independent suspension and if you are taller the Civic will definitely be a better fit. In fact over 6 ft and you won't be fitting at all.
  • behhppbehhpp Posts: 51
    Just drove home my 2003 Corolla LE, and it is really a nice car. Why buy a Lexus when you can get equal quality, comfort, and luxury for half the price? This car is really a good car.
  • Does anyone know if there are Short Shifter/ Quickshifter Kits available for the 2003 Corolla?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,618
    You run a risk with the 2003 Corolla because it has not yet been crash-tested by the NHTSA or IIHS. The Civic has been tested and has excellent ratings on both tests. One would hope that the '03 Corolla, being a brand-new design, would have excellent crash test scores, but it is possible for a new design to do worse than the previous design. Example: '02 Camry, which has only a 2-star front side impact rating on the NHTSA tests. If you're really concerned about safety and like the Corolla, you might want to wait until its crash test scores are released.
  • tagger18tagger18 Posts: 4
    I also have the rattling noise from the dashboard. I took it back to the dealership and the service department manager went for a ride. There was no dispute about the noise. It was constant and very annoying. They took the dashboard out hoping to find where the noise was coming from. After spending 6 hours, they could not find the source. So they put the dashboard (which was damaged while taking it out) back in place and told me that they have to call Toyota head office for more information. I have call them back and they said an engineer from
    Toyota went to their dealership and gather all the informations. The informations were taken back to Toyota for further investigation. I don't know what kind of informations he gathered (rattling noise from dashboard??) but the service department didn't even call me when the engineer was there. I would figure if the engineer wants to gather informations, he or she should at least take a ride in my car and listen to the rattling, and not just from a 2 line report the mechanics wrote!! Anyhow, I have a feeling that it could take a long time before they find out what the problem is. I HAVE told them about the crash panel insulation (discussed earlier) and they seemed to be not very interested. My first Toyota, a disappointment so far.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Actually the NHSTA has run its first round of test on the Corolla, Side Impact, non-airbag model.
    Driver: 4stars
    Rear Pass.: 4stars
    I, as many others, am wondering about the validity of the Camry test, for several reasons. I am interested to see a re-test next year, as well as one with side-airbags/head curtains.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,618
    That's great that the '03 Corolla got good side-impact scores, but if a Corolla buyer wants to be really sure about crash safety he might want to wait for all the tests to come out. For example, the redesigned '01 Elantra got excellent NHTSA crash test scores but a Poor score on the IIHS frontal offset crash. I bought my Elantra in the fall of '00, before any crash test scores were available.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Well, I think if you examine the Elantra crash test, that you'll see it had a strong structure- by far the most important aspect IMO, and I would have no qualms about buying one. That particular rating is one of FEW from the IIHS that I disagree with completely. Its not fair that the Elantra is rated poor, which is the same category as disasters such as the GM minivans, Daewoo Leganaza and other poor performers. (and I realize those are different classes, but it serves as an example)
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,618
    As an Elantra owner, I take some solace from the fact that the Elantra has a solid body structure, and I agree that is very important. But it doesn't help me or other drivers much if the driver's air bag goes off too late or the driver's seat moves too far forward, as it did in some of the IIHS tests. What is puzzling to me is that Hyundai refuses to take any action on this issue, as other carmakers (Nissan, DC) have done recently when they had poor IIHS crash test scores due to late-deploying air bags. It's a fixable problem, but it's not being fixed. And it will hurt Hyundai because buyers who are safety conscious will shy away from the Elantra, and people who follow CR's advice will turn away also because the Elantra will not be "Recommended" as long as it has that "poor" crash test result on its record. It remains to be seen how the Camry's disappointing side-impact score will hurt its sales. Let's hope the Corolla fares better.
  • 8u6hfd8u6hfd Posts: 1,391
    You might have to browse around TRD Japan's stuff as they had a 3 year head start on the Corolla
  • mtyfmtyf Posts: 19
    thanks for the replies about safety...
    does anyone know if the 2003 LX has an engine immobilizer feature?
  • mtyfmtyf Posts: 19
    another question - does anyone have a recommendation for a dealer in the Los Angeles area? who do you recommend, and why?

    thank you!
  • I had to take my 26" mountain bike into the
    shop this week and with the front tire
    removed and the seats folded down, it fit
    in perfectly. Glad I didn't have to get
    a bike rack.
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    A customer of mine got a new Corolla on monday. She said she paid $18k out the door. Is this really possible for a Corolla or did she get taken a bit?
    I only paid $16.9 for a 2001 Nissan Altima GXE Ltd. Ed. and I thought I paid a little to much. I did buy it in november of 2000, so it was towards the start of the 2001 model year.
    Just curious. Nice car though. She got the green color.

    The Sandman
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,618
    1. Yes, a Corolla could go out the door for $18k, with options and taxes.
    2. Yes, she got taken a bit IMO--must have paid near list price. In today's market, no one should have to pay list price for a compact car if they're willing to do a little research--too much competition. In my town, new Camrys are advertised for under $18k.
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