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2011 Toyota Avalon

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  • gramzgramz Posts: 105
    I just completed a trip and my odometer showed 480 miles and my gps showed 492. I then went online to see the thoughts of others and found a lot of discussion back and forth on which one was right.

    It had always been my thoughts that the gps was correct but after doing some reading I'm not so sure the odometer isn't more apt to be correct. I have checked the odometer against mile posts and it looks to be dead on.

    Isn't the Avalon great for comfort, both front and back.
  • I have read postings from other Avalon owners saying that the trip odometer is off. They tested it by getting on interstate and going past mile markers etc. I test drove other cars w/ lots of leg room in backseat like the Buick Lacrosse but when I drove the Avalon, that was it. I said, Sign and Drive. I was a Hyundai lover, and still am but they didn't have a car that has this much leg room in back seat.
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    edited July 2012
    I've been telling others in this blog that my tripometer is off by two miles. In all honestly I'm not sure what is off. What I do know, if my car says I'm getting 29.9 MPG then WITH MY FIGURES, I come out to about 2 mpg less about 27.9 It does vary from station to station but that seems to be about right.

    So when I write down my MPG and I do every fill up. I write down the MPG my car computer says then I write down my MPG figured on a calculator. I've always kept records like this on all my cars/trucks.

    Most people in her say that my figures is off, NOT the computer on the car. I'm sticking to my guns and say the car calculations on the car is off.

    Again it varies on how much, usually about 2 mpg. Hope this helps!

    I sat in the back seat of my Avalon for the first time. I mean I have sat back there but I never rode in it till now. I am really surprised on how roomy the back seat is. It's remarable on the amount of room. NOW, I know what others have been telling me is true. Wow! I just fell in love all over again. I have 19,000 on my LTD Avalon.
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    The Avalon has had odometer error since the redesign in 05. My 06 was off and we all (here on the forum) had just about the same error (3-4% low).

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    You did good buying a 2011 with such low miles. Was the car a demo? I'm curious on how much you paid. I only ask because it will give me some idea on what my car is worth these days.

    I can't compare the 2011 Avalon with any other year Avalon because it's the first one I ever owned. I have owned a lot of high end cars though and this is one of the best. The MPG, the roomy interior, the power, it's just unbelievable workmanship.

    I really have no complaints. I've only had one problem. The steering column has some sort of poping. The dealer in SC said they would fix it, IF I could point out the problem. It's a problem that only happens sometimes. So it's hard to pin point.

    Good luck with your new Avalon and welcome to this blog. :surprise:
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    The steering column has some sort of poping

    A 2011 is doing this? I thought this was limited to the 05s and 06s. Toyota replaced mine no questions asked when I brought to the service manager's attention.

    It was a fairly common problem with the Avalon.

    Also here is a note for all you 2011/2012 Avalon owners. If you are considering selling/trading in your cars do it now. National rental car just made a HUGE purchase of the last 2012 Avalon Limiteds for use in their fleet. In a year or so when they hit the market, the used car values for the Avalon will drop.

    Avalons at National

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • nceencee Posts: 419
    I would guess this will depend on how many they purchased and where in the country you live.

    Yes National has a place in damn near every state, but where it being the larger airports, cities away from the airports shouldn't be hurt by this.

    National will likely sell them piece meal, so that should mean, fewer hit the market all at once.

    National likely has auctions where and when they sell cars, which means, some larger dealer gets a bunch, and well, if said dealer is in Texas, then folks in Vermont don't have to worry to much.

    Now the good news is, that many more folks will get to drive an Avalon and that should be good for Toyota.

    I want to know why they are only renting until August, or is it that they will be the only ones to have Avalons until then?

    Skip
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    A poster in another thread here on Edmunds, said he read 5000 units. That is alot!

    I took the August 2012 as the "exclusive" time frame. In others words if some other rental company wants to buy Avalons to rent them, they will be able to.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • I don't know if you were referring to the used 2011 Avalon I bought with a bit over 8000 miles on it or not but the one and only owner was the Porsche Dealership in Greenville SC. I guess they used it for a loaner car for people getting service. I was initially looking at a new 2011 but my husband suggested looking at what they had used. They had 2 used. Mine and another 2011 with 12000 miles (another dealer owned one). They were selling them for the same price, $28,991. I noticed they dropped the price of the other one 2 weeks after I got mine. Made me mad but it is what it is.
    I am thoroughly enjoying it. Beautiful roomy car.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    They'll drop anyway, as the 2013 will be new, and kill the value of the old one, so to speak.
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    That seems to happen all the time. You buy something, only to find it cheaper later on. I can't tell you why that happens but it does. As we all know, cars in general lose value. At least your happy with your new purchase.

    Steering column problem:
    For some time I have complained about a poping noise coming from my steering column. I took it to the same dealer several times. The dealership said they couldn't find the problem. In fact they never admited there was a problem. The dealship was nice enough to say they would fix it *IF* I could tell them what was the problem.

    So as months went by the noise got worse. At first it was ONLY me who notice the steering column noise and the clicking sound it made. Finally my wife noiticed it but when we took it to the dealship we never was able to dublicate the problem. FINALLY the noise got so bad the dealship did notice it, and after 3 days at the dealership they replaced the whole steering column. No noise these days. Plus the steering column seems tighter too.

    I guess my only complaint was I didn't get a loaner. I'm happy though. So if you suspect or hear a noise coming from your steering column then I would stay on top of it till it's fixed. The noise is only slight at first and only happens when you turn the steering wheel a certain way. The actual problem is the column itself. It's loose.
    My biggest problem the noise came and went. I hear the 06' had a problem like this. Any feedback that will help others should be posted.

    20 Thousand mile check up:
    Oh another note, I got a letter saying I need a 20 thousand mile check up. What's that all about? Anything I should be concerned with? Someone stated earlier the dealship will want to change the cabin air filter with the check up. Any feedback on this?
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    At 20,000 miles, the cabin air filter probably is ready for a change. You can, however, do it yourself cheaply and easily. Buy one at your local retail, chain store parts house, or wherever, and take the panel out of the back of the glove box, and replace it. The manual will show you how. It's easy. Or let the dealer do it for $75
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    Thanks, I know Dealers have to make money but I like to save money. A cabin filter is something I can change. A timing belt is something I would want them to change. I know it won't need a timing belt at 20 thousand miles. That was just an example. Again Many thanks!
  • gramzgramz Posts: 105
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et0XtDHodQM

    A couple of small things on the 2011 bother me and I see they're fixed. Could be interesting.
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    I watched the youtube video. I am very impressed by the few extra safty features. I'm not so sure about the front grill. For me, that will take some time to get use to. I guess it's a face only a mommy can love. :blush:

    I wish they compared REAR seating room. I also wish they had the specs on the MPG, torgue, and horsepower. I'm afraid they are not telling enough about this new Avalon to make me RUSH out and buy one.

    I understand they are trying to appeal to the younger people. I respect that but Toyota should be very careful not to lose loyal buyers. A fastback is a bold move for an Avalon. All of this is just my opinion. If the rear seat is smaller, then I certainly would never buy one. EVERYONE loves the leg room in my rear seat of the 2011 Avalon. Again just my opinion. Here in Evans Ga. they should have one very soon. I will take a look. :D
  • marv15marv15 Posts: 32
    I visited with my Toyota Dealer today and met with the owner of the dealership. He told me one car will be delivered to the dealerships in Oct. Then he told me something I haven't read anywhere. He went on line and was surprised that he couldn't find it anywhere as well. Well unless he has been lied to, the Avalon as you all know will be available in a hybrid version, but guess what, a RWD (rear wheel drive and an AWD (all wheel drive) for more money will also be available, no more front wheel drive. I said it couldn't be possible that it hasn't been listed on the internet or anywhere at this point, but he assured me its true. If so, they have me definitely as a buyer, even though I'm not in love with the grill. Just thought I would pass this information on.
  • gramzgramz Posts: 105
    Just curious, why would RWD or AWD make you a buyer?
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    I'm responding to your message yet I wanted to answer the person below you. AWD, or RWD is MUCH better than front wheel drive. It changes everything, especially on handling. Wear and tear of the tires, so much will change.

    For example, go about 80 MPH and try to turn sharp, not real sharp but sharp. You'll feel your 2011, or 2012 Avalon car sway. Almost with the feeling of flipping. Now with RWD, the car will handle soooooooo much better. Of course I can tell you how much better but I know it will handle better. A noticeable difference. Plus safer. With that said I have heard NOTHING of a RWD Avalon, or an AWD. Only in this blog.

    Usually a RWD cuts down on MPG. Front wheel drive cars get better gas mileage but it's a lot of weight on that front end. Oh that's another thing. besides the handling, the weight of the car is distributed MUCH better. I'm guessing this is why the handling of the car is MUCH better.

    I still don't like the grill but I would be interested in a RWD. That's for certain. I only hope the interior room will not be cut. Hope this helps and maybe some mechanic can weigh in on this conversation.

    My Dad was a mechanic all his life. He swore by RWD cars. He's not around to explain why.
  • nceencee Posts: 419
    I for one would also be a buyer of the AWD model if it happens.

    My guess is, it's joke of sorts. I say this because he can't be the only dealer who's looked online for information and did or didn't see the it will come as a RWD and AWD model, and if others had seen it, they would be talking about É that' just my take on it.

    YES, I hope it happens, but my guess is it won't:(

    Skip
  • There are many who like RWD, but they do not handle snowy conditions as well. Several friends have RWD cars and "park" them for the winter months. Also, a lot of rear foot room is lost with RWD. I for one hope FWD continues in the 2013 Avalon. If not, I will buy a 2012 so as to have it.
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    edited August 2012
    I personally think it's a joke of so sorts. Sales people have all kinds of ways to get people excited. Lying is one of them.

    I would like a RWD Avalon but again I do not think it's going to happen. Why build a RWD, or AWD when you could just buy a more expensive Lexus. I think Lexus is RWD.

    No, I suspect the FWD Avalon is here to stay. The only change I see in the future besides styling, is perhaps a hybrid. Other big luxury cars are now coming out with hybrids is why I say this.

    I have 19,000 on my 2011. I'm happy with it. I finally got a good tech and found my steering column problem. It's now fix and I'm a VERY happy camper. My car is kept in my garage, and because I'm cripple I get the best parking places so I have no door dents that I know of. Yup, I'm happy with this big car.
  • nceencee Posts: 419
    Well after spending the last 45 minutes at my local Toyota Dealer, and surfing the "Dealer Access" web site, we found NOTHING on RWD or AWD:(

    He did say, that the model shown in NY was FWD, and they were told that nothing else would be available. He said his rep was in a few weeks ago, and that the hype is going MUCH better then they hoped and that they expect to sell a ton of new Avalons, and that he could expect to start seeing up-dates and more information the first part of September.

    Oh, Nan48, they have already announced a Hybrid Avalon?

    Skip
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    Skip says: Oh, Nan48, they have already announced a Hybrid Avalon?

    Skip, if this is a question then my answer is, I don't know. I only SUSPECT they will come out with a hybrid. I say this because Lincoln came out with one and I THINK other high end cars are coming out with them.

  • gramzgramz Posts: 105
    Thanks for you reply. I just wanted to see if your reason was close to mine and I see they are.

    I know what you mean with the better handling of cars with FWD. I grew up in the hills and curves of AR and have slid around a number of curves and even used the RWD to pull our of some slides.

    After leaving AR but going back for visits I would always find myself playing with someone who would see my out of state plates and start riding my bumper. I've had a number of them would try and keep up for a while but then decide that I might just be as good on the corners as they were. (I know some people never grow up)

    Now with my Avalon I drive the corners like a little old lady. You have no feel at all when cornering to the point that I can't even tell where a slide would come from. I'm not sure the car wouldn't just overtun before it slid.

    I also know when driving on straight highways at road speed I worry that I will need to make a quick evasive turn and if the car would hand it.

    I also believe that RWD even rides better.
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    Yes, gramz, we agree totally. I love the 60's & Early 70's cars, rear wheel drive cars. Positive transaction and extra things like this was nice.

    Handling is so important. Today handling takes second place to MPG. With gas going for 3.65 a gallon and rising it's no wonder.

    My Dad died in 2006 at 86. He was a mechanic all his life and always hated FWD cars. He was my step Dad and we wasn't close, so he really never explained why. It was more than handling. Working on them is hard, (I THINK).

    I owned my 2011 Avalon for about six months before I realize how it handled. I was running late taking my wife to Biringham for treatments. So one trip, I really put the pedal to the medal and came on the ramp really fast. I was surprised to find the Avalon handled so bad coming on to the freeway. I said then to myself. This car definally needs RWD. I still love the car though. I just believe it would handle better.

    I also agree with someone who said it would not be good for snow. No, FWD is better for snow.

    Take care, Bill 19,500 miles on my 2011 Avalon, Over two years old, July 16,
  • marv15marv15 Posts: 32
    I called corporate in CA to see if they would confirm what the owner I spoke with about the RWD and AWD. After investigating, he said right now there isn't anything in the literature about it. So either the dealer owner doesn't know what he's talking about, knows something from some where or is misguided. So until published, its a wait and see. As far as, is RWD better then FWD, all I can say back in the old days with my RWD cars, I was able to handle the stopping a car better in the snow, and I always felt more secure with RWD in case of a front tire blowing up traveling at 70. It's my feeling I would have better control if the front tire blew with RWD.
    JMHO.
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    edited August 2012
    My wife asked me today how much the engine weights on the 2011 Avalon. I told her the car weight is 36 hundred pounds. I have no idea what the engine alone weights.

    I looked it up on the internet only to find the curb weight is 36 hundred pounds. BUT THE GROSS weight is 4565 pounds. WOW! Does that mean the car weights that with a full tank of gas or what? Please explain!

    My information came from this site:
    http://autos.aol.com/cars-Toyota-Avalon-2011/specs/

    Just got back from Biringham AL. Car preformed flawless, getting 29 MPG average, driving with two people, and not much in the truck. Now that's hard to beat. With my calcuations I got 28 MPG.
  • bdymentbdyment Posts: 549
    Gross weight minus curb weight equals maximum allowable passenger weight plus any cargo that you are carrying. In your case approx. 965lbs.
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    I got this from the internet, so I'm only 70% sure it's true. With that said, it looks like Avalon is coming out with a Hybrid, so here's the site to check out. I'm kind of confused with the specs. Perhaps someone can explain it to me like I'm a six year old. :confuse:

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/28/2013-toyota-avalon-features-both- -gasoline-and-hybr/?page=all

    Thanks for the input about the gross/curb weight. So I guess my car, loaded weights 45 hundred pounds. Amazing!

    On RV's, campers they give dry weight. This basically means with out anything such as AC, Fridg, etc. So when buying a camper always go by gross weight, just my thoughts.

    I had no ideal the Avalon was so heavy. Took another trip to Biringham AL, got 30.5 MPG and that's my figures. The computer said I got 31.7. I have to admit this might seem hard to be true but it's true. We LOG every fill up. Now I was driving the car like the old man I am. LOL!

    20987 on my 2011 Avalon, Really a good car. Two thumbs up!
  • gramzgramz Posts: 105
    I just turned 40,000 and I'm in need of new tires and have a couple of questions.

    This is the lowest mileage I've ever had to replace Michelin tires, but this is my first Toyota. Does this mileage sound low to anyone else?

    I've always used Michelin and have always been happy with the ride and road noise issues. Does anyone know of a tire that they think is as good or better and costs a little less?

    Thanks
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