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2011 Toyota Avalon

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  • neil1neil1 Posts: 17
    My wife traded her '03 very high mileage ES300 on an '11 loaded LTD at a Toyota dealer in late September. Net difference around 27K. The Avi was show room new w/13,000mi - a trade in that had been there less than two days. The previous owner installed door protectors which look like a factory install on the pearl white paint. We ponied up $700 additional and had the front end (half the hood, fenders, mirrors, bumper and door handle cups) covered with Clearshield -sometimes called clear bra - which is virtually invisible on the car. No more worries about rocks, gravel, and/or love bugs. I think the Avi trunk might be smaller than her (smaller) ES300 Lexus trunk was but all in we think it's great car.
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    Make sure and give us updates on your 2013, I'm curious but I don't think I'll run out and buy one. I really like my 2011 and like I stated in previous notes I only have 21 thousand miles on it.

    How's the leg room in the 2013? Power? Tell us more! Thanks for sharing,
  • The steering column was placed under warranty after the mechanics put it on the rack and verified hearing the clicking. Similar problem and a recall with Camary I was told by service advisor. Recall for this on Avalon coming,I predict, as this fixed the problem.
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    I had a clicking in my Steering column, it took me several visits for the dealer to finally locate the problem. It was very slight but I noticed it. The noise, movement bothered me so much I was just about ready to sell my car, then a tech noticed it. Today, all is good, it's the only problem I had with my Avalon so far.
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    That was a common thing. My 06 had the clicking column. When I explained that I was feeling it my dealer fixed it without question under warranty.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Drove a 12 Avalon yesterday - I'm a fan anyway, but was quite impressed. Love what they did with the interior, drive was perfect, as always. Now, I guess I should compare the 13 with it one of these days.
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    I thought you owned a 2011. Surely you don't have that many miles on your car. Lets us know what you think about the 2013. I am told the 2012 isn't any differnt from the 2011's. I am curious abut the 2013 though. Thanks for sharing,
  • nceencee Posts: 419
    I had a 2011, which I just traded in on the All New 2013 Avalon:) Here is a quick run through of my thoughts so far.

    ***Some of this likely has changed, as I've now owned the car 6 days, but it's good reading until I do update it.

    First impressions on my 2013avalon:)
    Ok, we'll I just got back from my first short trip with my new toy. Here are my thoughts.

    First off let me me start with a BIG

    Quiet, smooth, comfortable pleasant to drive.

    Seats are much more comfortable then I expected on a longer drive.

    The trip was about 200 miles round trip. Mostly back roads 45 - 55 mph, and light snow all day.

    I didn't think about it until I tried to load CD's, as it appears it only holds 1. I'm sure this is because of entunes and the fact it can play a iPod.

    I still find the switches / controls on the top right a bit to far, but not a big deal. The lights are very nice, both headlights for lighting the road as well as the interior lights.

    Something odd, is that my cell phones turns on and off all by itself, which never happened with my old Avalon, and it is the car, because when the cell phone is on my desk at workor counter at home, it doesn't do it.

    The front seat heater is very good and seems more powerful than my old Avalon.

    The collision avoidance is real nice.

    Right Now I don't like the new radio station presets, a bit more work then the old system, but I can see where it will be easier once I get use to it.

    The 3 driving modes are interesting, but I didn't pay attention much attention to them yet, so I can't comment much. I can say you can see and feel the difference when you select each mode.

    The electric steering is REAL nice.

    I liked the 3 trays / pockets on the old Avalon better. Things seemed to fit better and easier.

    I love the coin tray up front.

    I like the digital speedometer which is handy when setting the cruise control at 9mph over the speed limit

    I REALLY like the solid feel when opening and closing the doors

    I'm sure there will be more as I get more time behind the wheel, but that's for now.

    Skip
  • nceencee Posts: 419
    Well almost 1,000 miles on it, so I'm getting more time behind the wheel.

    - The rides is more comfortable but in an odd way. It feels stiffer, and you hear and sort of feel the bumps more, but not in a bone jarring way. The seats and suspension do a good job of soaking the bumps up.

    - My radio doesn't seem to go up and down base on noise and speed like it should. I'll be reading up on this to see if it only works under certain conditions, or if the radio needs to be at a certain volume to work?

    - Oh, the radio is awesome in the LTD model

    - Wipers are real quiet:) A big issue I had with my 2011 Avalon

    - The windows go up and down very quietly. Something I had paid to much attention to in my 2011, although you do have to hold the switches a bit longer to have them work automatically.

    - Still NOT liking the radio station setup:(

    - Electric steering is a nice touch.

    - The backup camera seems so much nicer. The picture is clearer, cleaning, brighter and more crisp then the 2011.

    - Not sure but the 3 driving modes are somewhat of a gimmick at this time. I leave it in "Normal" at this time. I will be going on a few long trips, at which point in time I will try "Eco" mode to see if it helps in the MPG.

    - I will say, I've had several folks come up and say "Very Nice Things" about the car:)

    - The front seat heaters WORK! Damn, on high you feel like your roasting your butt for dinner. Med is ok, and the first setting doesn't seem to work well at all?

    - Wind noise hasn't been an issue yet. I'm NOT saying it's any quieter then my 2011, what I'm saying is, it's not any louder that I can detect.

    I THINK I can say this and mean it.

    IF I had driven a 2010 or so LS 460 L, and it didn't have to many miles on it, and I could live with the HIGH cost of ownership, and the higher cost for fuel (I drive 35,000+ miles a year, and a trip to FL from Maine would cost an extra $150.00, or about $2,000.00 more per year) Not to mention the higher cost of insurance and maintenance - $200.00 for an oil change! That would likely be sitting in my driveway, but this is a Very Nice option.

    Ok, back to my New Avalon:)

    A friend who I worked with many years ago at the local Ford dealerships went for a ride in the car the other day, and well, here is some of what happen.

    Hey, Leo look at this cool feature, yeah that's nice. I've like that idea every since ford started putting that in their cars a few years ago:) ok, well what do you think of this? Yeah that's cool to, but sorry, ford's have had that for a few years now. Well this went on and on for a while, after the ride was done and I was dropping him off, I asked him, so what do you think, he said (in Leo fashion), nice, but you could have bought a 3 year old ford and got all that stuff for a lot less:)

    - Trunk opening seems tighter. I don't like that, as I use the car a lot for making deliveries.

    - The car is smaller inside, which is noted in the specs, I just wish it wasn't so noticeable. My passengers have said they fell a bit claustrophobic in front. That seemed a bit much to me! I will say, it maybe the different colors used, making it seem tighter. I feel it as the driver:(

    Now some of you are saying "Damn sure sounds like he doesn't like the car, and or, why in hell did he buy the car"? And that is a good question.

    YES, I like the car. That doesn't mean I can't find fault with it.

    I also worked out a deal with my local dealer, which I wasn't going to back out of. In part he bought A LOT of marketing stuff for their Grand Reopening / Remodel, and I said I would purchase a new car if he did. He did spend A LT, so I bought the new car.

    Here is an interesting wonder.

    IF the car was to be totaled, would I purchase another one, or would I buy a 2012, or would I shop around for a late model used LS???

    Skip
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    I really want to thank you skip for giving us updates. I'm not in the market to buy one since I have only 22 thousand miles and I bought an extended warranty. It's nice to know what to expect if I ever wanted to buy a 2013 model.

    One thing I love about my 2011 is the room on the inside. Especially the back seat. You said the 2013 was smaller on the inside. This is nice to know. I guess that's how they get the extra MPG. ??

    Keep the undates coming, Thanks again!
  • yes.keep updates coming.im thinking of buying a 2013 es 350 or a 2013 limited
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I thought you owned a 2011.

    Nope, that wasn't me, I have a Lexus, but am a fan of the Avalon - despite it's differences in engineering, it's a great car for us Business People who need such a roomy comfortable sedan. This was the first 12 I have tried out, liked it a lot. Will be looking for a 13 to try out.
  • nceencee Posts: 419
    If you like the 2012 for it's roominess - will NOT like the 2013. It is a Great car, but it is smaller, and noticeably I might add:(

    Skip
  • I have to agree with Skip. The 2013 is noticeably less roomy than the 2012.....and that unsightly front end! Very happy to have my 2012 in Sizzling Crimson Mica. Love the color!
  • neil1neil1 Posts: 17
    The 2013 Avi kind of reminds me of what Acura did a few years ago when they went through a redesign. Acura lovers wrote about the new Acura front end Falling From an Ugly Tree and Hitting Every Branch on the Way Down! People called it the "beak" and the "beer can opener" grill. What the heck were the Avi designers thinking??
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    What the heck were the Avi designers thinking??

    The same thing as the new Ford Fusion designers. UGH, I hope this isn't a trend.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    edited December 2012
    My first impression on the 2013' front end was , "What in the world was Toyota engineers thinking"? My biggest complaint probably would be less room on the inside. (keep in mind I have not driven a 2013 model) EVERYONE who sits in the back seat of 2011 LOVES it. I have sat back there one time and I have to say, it's very roomy. For now, I'll stick to my 2011 Avalon. I have only 22 thousand on my car, and it mostly just sits in the garage. I bought the extended 8 year warranty (for peace of mind) so I should be ok for many years to come. If anyone buys a hybrid, I'll be curious to what they have to say.

    I can understand changing the style (to appeal to younger buyers or different buyers) but to me it's like changing the coke formula. Remember years ago, coke had an excellent formula and then changed it for no reason. WHY change something if it's working?
  • gramzgramz Posts: 106
    Why change something that's working?

    Reminds me of what Facebook just did. The had 668,872 people voting, and of those, 589,141 said they were opposed to the new documents. Guess what, they went ahead and ignored the voters.

    I think it just like the Coke fiasco also. In the end Coke went back to their original product. Hope Toyota does.

    The only reason I bought the Avy was the room in back as we travel with another couple. I tried a number of different cars and climbed in the back see of all of them. Some of them I eliminated without trying the front seat so the room is very important for me.
  • nceencee Posts: 419
    I say stick with your 2011, in hindsight I should have.

    YES I love my 2013, but the 2011 was just different, and a little bit bigger)

    Oh, for those interested in some folks thoughts on the Hybrid and why they did or would buy it, go here: (Nice active Avalon site)

    - http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/311-4th-generation-2013/

    Skip
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    I understand if you have to change a car, then by all means do it. I don't drive much and my present 2011 has plenty of life left in it. Lets hope I don't hit a deer or something along that line.

    Personally I don't think Toyota will go back to having a big back seat. MPG seems more important these days. Even though gas seems to be going down (for now).

    The front end might change, but that's cosmetic, nothing more.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Personally I don't think Toyota will go back to having a big back seat.

    REALLY hope you're wrong! If you're not, why get the Avalon over the Camry? That will take the Avalon off my list, I drive clients almost every day in my Lexus LS, I need the back seat room. :mad:
  • neil1neil1 Posts: 17
    Anybody know how the maint req'd light is programmed to come on? For example is it at 5K, 10K, 15K etc? Or is is automatically 5K after the last oil change was performed and light reset? Or something else?
  • nceencee Posts: 419
    Automatic 5,000 after oil change and a reset É I believe.

    Skip
  • gramzgramz Posts: 106
    I have 45,000 miles on mine and it has come on each time somewhere short of 5,000 miles. It only stays on for a short time then it goes off. I went past the 5,000 miles once and when that happened it stayed on until service and they reset it.
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    My 06 was 5K miles.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • nceencee Posts: 419
    I only liked that color in the bright sunshine (not very much here in Maine), any other time it looked black. Hell at least half of the people I know, thought I had a Black Avalon (which I did 2 years ago).

    As for the room in the back seats É that doesn't seem as small in comparison to the front. Most folks who have ridden in the back say it's just as roomy as my 2011. Now I'm not sure that could be said if 3 people were out back.

    Oh let's see, it sucks in the snow, but then again, most cars do with summer tires on them:) Well it doesn't suck, but it's not great.

    I think the drivers seat is more comfortable then my 2011, not much, but enough that I can tell.

    The finish seems to be very nice. I've washed it a dozen times or so, and it washes real easy, and dirt and snow washes off real nice. It seems to be a much higher gloss then my 2011.

    Not a single person has said anything bad about the car. I have had several people ask if they could sit in it, and walk around it, and all of said in some way, shape or form "Wow, Nice Car" "Sure wish it was mine" or "Damn I'll bet your one happy in camper with this car" É

    It's at least as quiet if not just a little bit quieter.

    I'm not sue I like the window buttons. My 2011, you could hit real quick, and the window would go up / down, and you could hit the switch again in mid stream, and the window would go up / down. With these, you need to hit and hold the button albeit for just a second or so, but still not as easy / quick as the 2011.

    My head unit looks like it is bad:( I've tried 3 other cell phones, and they all do the same thing. I have an appointment at the dealer for them to check it out. Hopefully it's just a setting I'm over looking.

    I'm still going to be interested to see what if anything they change next year. I think they need to decide if it's a Luxury Car / Sports Car (hardy) or a Sports Car/ Luxury Car.

    I for one, have owned Avalon's because they were a Luxury Car. I was fine with the size (heck I would have been fine if it were a bit bigger:)

    I know it's not in this market, but you don't see many luxurious;

    - Corvettes
    - Cameros
    - Mustangs
    - Buick Regals
    - Genesis
    - Infinity G35, G37

    You get the picture.

    Make a sports car, for the sports fan É

    Make a luxury car for those who understand, the size, comfort, LUXURY, and are ok with the poor fuel economy. I understand I Bought a Luxury car and know that it's MPG's won't be as good as a ECONOMY car É I'm ok with that.

    Oh, again, the front with a front plate is a NON issue:)

    Skip
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    Does anyone know how to reset the button at the 5000 mark? Is it easy? I'm sure I will have my car service at the dealer but just in case I don't.

    Thanks Skip for the updates on your new Avalon.

    22 thousand and still counting, Fixing to take another Birmingham trip, that's about 500 miles one way. So I'll be putting some miles on the old car.

    Filled up yesterday, got 25.6 mpg in city/hwy driving. Two people, no luggage. I always keep my air pressure up to par.

    2011 LTD,
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    Its been a few years, but IIRC you hold down the trip meter button while turning on the ignition until the light shuts off. The procedure is in the manual.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • geo123geo123 Posts: 33
    Skip,

    Thanks, for the updates on your new 2013. I enjoy reading them. You may have stated but, what color interior did you get and how do you compare to your 2011? I have only seen pictures of the interior and would appreciate you comments.

    Thanks,

    George
  • What tires came with the car?????? Hope the 2013 Avalon was not supplied with the Bridgestone tires?????? I do like the change to 18" tires.
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