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2011 Toyota Avalon

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  • popsavalonpopsavalon Posts: 231
    On my 2007 Avalon, there is a right and left half to the shield. They are held on with plastic push fasteners. After my encounter with a curb, I had the local body shop order the destroyed left half. It was about $90(highway robbery!), and I installed it in about 15 minutes. There is a Toyota part number embossed in the shield, but the body shop seemed to be very familar with what to order.

    I thought I might save a little money by ordering it from the local shop, and I never checked with the Toyota dealer.
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    Good to know information. I always worry about hitting any curve I pull up to. I know these cars sit low to the ground. I never in my life thought it was below 6" though.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Ground clearance is minimal for aerodynamic reasons, and they aren't much lower than most sedans.
  • gramzgramz Posts: 102
    Just curious what your RPM reads when you're averaging about 24 on the highway - driving at 65+ MPH.

    Or what does the + mean.

    It hard to imagine that you are getting that low. At that speed I got around 32 on the road consistently from the very start.
  • nceencee Posts: 419
    Ok so what is everyone getting, when (city, highway) (flat plains area, hilly, mountainous, stop and go) and what is the mileage on your car at this time?

    I just did a trip to Vermont, and averaged 29.85 MPG, (501 miles to the tank) and this was pretty much a round trip with very little stopping. Some hills, mostly highway with 2 adults. 4000 miles on the car at this time.

    Now this is about 100 +- better then the last few tanks of gas, so a nice improvement and pretty much right where it's suppose to be.

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  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    edited July 2011
    I believe a lot of MPG has to do with the driver. People say they drive 65+ which is good but they might do "jack rabbit starts" and so forth. We all know this will lower you MPG.

    I drive like this will be my last car I ever buy. It very well might be too. I have nearly 9000 miles on it and love the ride. Love the MPG for such a big car. Love the drive and all the options. I did not get the nav. system but my daughter bought me a small one to use. We've owned the car almost a year now. (I think that's right)

    I get around 24 mpg and that's city/hwy driving. I live in the city but it's in the country. On the road we've got as good as 31 or maybe 32, (that's about right), I'm sure we never got 33. I believe 28 or 29 MPG on the HWY would be my average. Always two people on the road. Always carrying a lot of things too. :^) I log every fill up, every oil change, EVERYTHING.
  • douglas1douglas1 Posts: 130
    I've got about 3900 miles on my Ltd, no Nav, and have been getting 28 to 30 mpg on the highway and usually drive a pretty consistent 75mph. Occasionally I find myself tooling down the highway at 85 mph because this car is so damn quite. Around town, lots of hills around here, I get about 18 to 19 mpg.

    I try not to jack rabbit start but can't help occasionally blowing off a very surprised BMW driver. : )
  • popsavalonpopsavalon Posts: 231
    I have a 2007 with 45K miles. I have found that there is a distinct difference in gas mileage between 70 mph, and over 70 mph. 70 mph will get me 30 mpg, 75 mph will drop the gas mileage by a couple of mpg. This applies to southern interstate driving, with air and cruise on.
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    I know what you mean about the BMW. I sometimes catch myself doing the same thing with different cars. I believe this car performance has a lot to do with the transmission.

    MY MPG varies a lot, depending on my driving habits. I checked on my last long distant trip and got about 28-29 MPG on the HWY. Driving normal speeds. Around 80 or less.

    My car computer is always off by 2 MPG, showing I'm getting better than I really am.

    I have nearly 10 thousand miles on my car. Still runs good and no road noise and NO squeaks what so ever. NO problems to speak of. I do have a slight wiper problem everyone has talked about. I found out if you slow your wipers down it's almost stops. I think a lot of that depends on how hard it's raining. My wipers skip a little only when it's barley raining. NEVER on a hard rain. I don't believe there's anything wrong with the wiper arm.

    I reset my computer on the MPG every time and I'm still 2 miles off per gallon every fill up, no matter what I'm always off that 2 MPG. I hope the MPG people are posting is NOT what the computer says.

    IS there anyway to adjust the computer settings? Anyone!
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    I DON'T think you'll blow away a 7 series BMW. I don't THINK. With that said I owned a 1996 Impala SS and this car can compare to that car in a 1/4 of mile. This is one fast big car. Toyota really out done themselves on this 2011 Avalon. Handling compared to the 96 Impala is much different. Mainly because that car is rear wheel drive.

    I'm guessing they will never make the Avalon rear wheel drive. I say this because if you wanted rear wheel drive then move up the Lexus. I THINK all of them are rear wheel drive but I'm not really sure.
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    Has anyone checked to see if their actual MPG is the same as their computer in their car?? Mine is off my 2 MPG every time. Feedback on this will help. Thanks!
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    "..Anyone!.."

    Inflate the tires "properly"...?
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    I THINK all of them are rear wheel drive but I'm not really sure.

    The ES350 and RX350 are FWD like the Avalon (The RX having f/AWD available). Those vehicles also share many components with the Avalon. The GS/LS/IS sedans are RWD.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • jross71jross71 Posts: 1
    As an '11 Avalon owner I say I must agree with your feelings about NAFTA. The "giant sucking sound" and all that. I watched the infamous interview with Al Gore. The press ridiculed RP. I am still boggled by how these free trade agreements were supposed to help our employment by encouraging business to seek cheaper labor elsewhere without some counter-balance mechanism. Seems some make a lot of money, some are left with broken promises and many are now left broke to boot. All the infrastructure improvements and benefits - all a bunch of hooey that never materialized. At least where I am from. All the fortune 500 companies are long gone, vacant properties and tele-marketers remain.

    OK so I am saying that I dislike NAFTA, but then I purchased an Avalon Limited. Well that had nothing to do with NAFTA. The last Domestic Brand sedan I had was purchased pre-Nafta an '87. After countless window regulators, alignment issues, overheating, several engine control parts breaking, A/C going out on trips, A/C compressor self- destructing to the point the vehicle had to be towed (serpentine drive belt), all before 60 thousand miles, I was fed up. Because the one before that - an '82 - did the same general things. And I do not beat my cars either. At that time, it seemed the Japanese big 3 did not have those issues. So I jumped ship so to speak, straight to the Nissan dealer - sorry I am as patriotic as the next person but I just did not need the aggravations.

    Now I just prefer Nissan / Toyota because it is what I have personally had the best luck with most recently. Some just happen to be made in US. We still have the '95 Altima, made in the US, over 100K miles, just has required a water pump and some hoses, drives great to this day and the A/C works too. I had an '07 Camry before the Avalon. Honestly it seemed a bit cheaped out in some interior fitments - but zero mechanical problems for me - nothing ever broke. Four-banger, and it performed very well too - about as expected. Sold it for almost half what I paid for it. My wife had a '05 Nissan X-Trail (outside US 4X4 model) - in 5 years, replaced an oxygen sensor. Sold it for more than half what I paid for it. I even owned a '00 Daewoo for 2 years - it never broke. Once I thought it broke - turns out it was a shot of bad gas. Awesome A/C.

    All indications are the Avalon is pretty well sorted too. Time will tell of course. My wife has nicknamed the Avalon the "Cloud". What a sweet ride. I delivers on it's promises so far.

    I never got too upset about the gas pedal fiasco - I am old enough to remember Audi had the same thing happen in the mid-80's.

    Im am also old enough to remember that in the 60's Chevy had a batch of defective engine mounts that could snap on a hard shock, engine would be free to twist and then pull/jam the throttle linkage full-on. Happened to many cops when they jumped curbs or hit a bump hard in the course of pursuit. Can you imagine going to uncontrolled full throttle with a police package 409 or 427? The interim solution was to add a safety cable to the engine mounts as a back-up - something already well known to racers. OK it was probably a bad design and accident waiting to happen and I know GM was pinching pennies and perhaps could have prevented it from happening. Perhaps. By that is life and we are humans motivated by factors that sometimes conflict. Witness the shuttle O-rings.

    In 15 or 20 years it will happen again to some other car company. And it will be new news and everybody will forget and the press will not mention Toyota and Audi and Chevy. That is how it goes.

    Only one way to totally totally stop these unfortunate happenings really - stop driving, stop flying, stop sailing, etc.

    Or, try this: Stay sober, stay focused and situationally aware when operating a powerful and potentially dangerous mechanical device such as a table saw or car, read the owners manual in detail, anticipate emergencies like a pilot, practice an emergency stop once in a while to maybe learn the feel of the anti-lock peddle vibration so it doesn't freak one out, and do not allow passengers to ride without fastening their seat belts. Oh gee, am I talking about responsibility here?

    But I will still consider an American brand car especially if the reliability statistics are at least par - which brings me to the Avalon - actually I really wanted a Town Car, but it just would not fit in our garage properly. I was wanting to get a TC before they went away, and would have taken a chance on it but for that issue. I always rent TCs or Grand Marquis when traveling out of town and love them. But the Avalon fits the garage, has a superior electronics package, and is the closest I could find to a TC/GM in general driving characteristics at the price point. To me it seems like a 6/8 scale model TC.

    Avalon just doesn't have that awesome TC long hood sticking out a half light year into the future!

    Enough of my rant I apologize, I just get riled whenever I see or hear that 5-letter acronym N*F*A!!

    Cheers and good luck with Avalon's (and Town Cars)!
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    ~200 years from now will there still be Canadian and Mexican borders..?

    I hope not.

    Borders, okay, restricted crossing...NOT!!
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    edited July 2011
    It's impossible to buy a complete American made car today. Simply impossible. I too owned my share of old American cars. My first car a 64 Dodge Polara road good and no problems at all. No ac in that car. I was young and boiled the tires at almost every corner. This car had a big block 318 with push button automatic. My next American made car was one of my worse cars. American Rambler. My third American made car was back to the Dodge. Love my 1970 Dodge Charger. All American made with another 318 engine. Again no AC. Americans can build good cars. It's just been some time since they have. My Avalon was put together in Geoge Town KY. Parts are from all around the world, I assume.

    Personally, I think NAFTA should be haulted, completely. I would LOVE to buy a competely made American car. (like one of the old Dodges I owned) I think we should all buy American made products. There should be a saying, "if your going to sell it here then you should build it here". Diana Sawyers said if every American bought an American product that cost a mer $3.33, then in turn it would put 10 thousand Americans to work. We did our part last week. We bought a $10 dollar, competley made, American plastic basket at Target.

    Nick name "Cloud" is perfect for this car. Suits the car to a T.
  • rotterdam6rotterdam6 Posts: 36
    Anyone hear about the new wiper arms that are to replace the noisy ones many of us seem to have? Love my Avalon, but the wipers drive me "nutz!" I always drive my Camry when I know it's to rain.
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    I have nothing of replacement for this product. I am due for a service soon and will ask about it.
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    edited July 2011
    The lower your RPM means the less your motor is working. I BELIEVE your best MPG will be the highest speed at the Lowest RPM. This is meant for HWY driving only, NOT city driving. I SUSPECT 55-60 miles an hour will be your best gas milage. That's speed it hard to do in a car like the Avalon. I find myself driving 80 almost all the time. It seems my MPG is a little lower than most people in this post. Hope this helps.
  • finfin atlantaPosts: 586
    edited July 2011
    For decades our cars have been designed to get the best gas mileage at about 55 mph. This is a function of many things: older roads before the interstates were built, engine noise, power curves in an internal combustion gas engine, gearing etc. Little has changed as to this speed despite all the nice highways and electronic controls to help increase mileage. Driving 55 is still safe and fuel efficient.

    Mileage reductions are also a function of speed as it relates to air resistance. Doubling the auto speed means four times the air to push out of the way... it's exponential... this is meaningful beyond about 75 mph in a car, you are right that at 80 mph the air you push is burning your fuel more quickly, not the distance covered. Enjoy your Avalon... great cars..
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