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2011 Toyota Avalon

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  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    edited September 2011
    2012 Dode Diesel's are out. Other 2012 cars are out. I've checked and checked and all I can find is a 2012 Avalon that looks very much like the 2011. Plus the articles I've read said it's a mirror image of the 2011. Pehaps your salesman wants you to get excited.

    Now if you have NOT bought an Avalon then wait for the 2012, simply for value purpose. Just my thoughts. See post notes others have posted. No WAY will they wait 6 or 7 months to pull a 2012 Avalon out. AGAIN my thoughts.

    Bill
  • I would be glad to have 16" tires. My neighbor just replaced an unrepairable OE 17" tire on his vehicle. It was about $250. I think that comes to about $1000 for a replacement set of four for these new vehicles!

    The last set of premium 16" tires that I bought was about $600.
  • gramzgramz Posts: 105
    the 2012 is out and has been out for quite sometime and they are just like thge 2011. you must be referring to the 2013.
  • nceencee Posts: 419
    Yes, in fact it will likely be a 2013 as they aren't announcing until the fall of 2012.

    This I knew and should have better stated É sorry.

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  • nimiminimimi Posts: 249
    I don't see how the 2012's can be out and yet Toyota.com doesn't show them. In fact, the Toyota Pressroom site shows only the Camry, Yaris, Tacoma as being out in 2012 models. You'll definitely have to wait to see a 2012 Avalon.
  • nimiminimimi Posts: 249
    edited September 2011
    I've seen this ridiculous "review" before. If it were really a review of the Avalon, it would have been written by English-speakers since the Avalon is a US-made car. Do you really think that Toyota is bringing back the Touring model? Look at the specs: 210 HP?, 15 inch wheels? cassette player!!! This looks as if it were the weekend project of some 5th graders playing with the internet! The main point is that if the 2012 Avalon is anywhere near production, you wouldn't be seeing any new 2011's arriving from the manufacturer as they would have to have ceased production in order to produce the 2012's. But, they're still delivering 2011's so the 2012 is a long, long way off.

    See for years and models by year: http://pressroom.toyota.com/press_kit_index.cfm?pkYear=2012&prod_brand_id=1
  • gramzgramz Posts: 105
    Not sure what to say. I looked at what I thought were 2012s, The sticker in the window said 2012, however I could not see any difference in them and my 2011. I looked at two different ones and both of them had 2012 on the sticker. This was the only reason for me to believe there were 2012s
  • The car magazines say the 2012 Avalons are almost identical to the 2011!
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    edited September 2011
    It's probably a 2012. After all they can't change the vin number. Like I stated, "they say the 2012 is a mirror image of the 2011". Personally I have not looked. I suspect there might be a little change. NOW the 2013 might change. I'm guessing you could buy a 2011 a lot cheaper than the 2012. If so I would buy the 2011 because of money. NOW the 2012 will be worth more money because a newer year. Of course this goes without saying.
  • nimiminimimi Posts: 249
    If you saw Avalons at the dealer and they had stickers that said they were 2012 models, I'd ask the dealer how they can display models that Toyota has yet to release.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I COULD be wrong (but I doubt it :blush: ), but the cars computer can likely measure your MPG at least as accurately, if not moreso, than you can manually. The variable is always exactly how full the full tank is. Either way you figure it.
  • gramzgramz Posts: 105
    I believe over a period of time the computer is more accurate. I've not reset my since I bought it and it reads 27.6. I check each tank manually and it varies a lot but after 21,000 miles the manual calculation is within .2 mpg of the computer. I always set the pump handle on the second notch and when it shut off I stop. I think the pressure the gas is delivered probably affect this somewhat.

    I'll go with the computer.
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    No, I'll stick with my figures. I HOPE I am wrong. I fill up the same way every time. First click off then I add no more gas. I reset the computer every time and it's always off about 2 MPG, a little less but NEVER more than 2. I know every fill up checked by hand will not be the same. I hope I'm wrong.

    HOWEVER with that said, I test drove a Ford Truck today with a Lance camper. The Ford truck has a 6.0 engine with a 4.10 rear end. The lance camper weights about 38 hundred pounds. Now this truck is a dually and again I'll remind you it has a 4.10 rear end. Automatic. THE COMPUTER on this "King Ranch Ford" said it was getting 16.2 MPG. The man said he figures he gets around 13.5 hauling. 16 empty. So is this computer off? You would have to understand how these campers cut down on gas milage. NOT just the weight but wind resistance. Hope this helps. This was a 2006 model. Here's the camper:

    http://www.rvtraderonline.com/listing/2005-Lance-921-99223180
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    No, I'll stick with my figures. I HOPE I am wrong. I fill up the same way every time. First click off then I add no more gas. I reset the computer every time and it's always off about 2 MPG, a little less but NEVER more than 2. I know every fill up checked by hand will not be the same. I hope I'm wrong.

    HOWEVER with that said, I test drove a Ford Truck today with a Lance camper. The Ford truck has a 6.0 engine with a 4.10 rear end. The lance camper weights about 38 hundred pounds. Now this truck is a dually and again I'll remind you it has a 4.10 rear end. Automatic. THE COMPUTER on this "King Ranch Ford" said it was getting 16.2 MPG. The man said he figures he gets around 13.5 hauling. 16 empty. So is this computer off? You would have to understand how these campers cut down on gas milage. NOT just the weight but wind resistance. Hope this helps. This was a 2006 model. Here's the camper:

    http://www.rvtraderonline.com/listing/2005-Lance-921-99223180
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Do you always use the same gas pump? If not, your hand calculations are not likely right, while a long term computer figure is bound to be very accurate. Tank to tank measurements are subject to wide variations, with either method.
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    NO, I do not use the same pump. :)
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    edited September 2011
    I took my 30 year old son for his first test drive in my Avalon. I showed him the power in the machine. He was so impressed and asked what kind of engine was in it. I could see him grap on. Boy this cars are fast. REALLY fast. I didn't even use the speed shift. I explain I think the speed was in the torque and I believe the transmission has a lot to do with the speed.

    I explain the beauty wasn't only the speed but the MPG and the room. LOOK at the back seat. I did explain this car weights almost 3,600 hundred pounds. He found that hard to believe.

    After a long drive back from our visit. My computer said I was getting 33.4 MPG on the HWY. Driving at 60, two people, no luggage. Come on folks, is this car that good? Today, it reads 31.9 but I'm back to country driving. Country/city, help me out here.

    12 thousand miles on the car as of today, I keep a log of all fill ups and from now on I will show MY FIGURES plus the computer MPG.
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    Last trip, average 29.7 on computer, my figures was 29.1, this time same pump, long HWY miles, two people, hills, packed with lugage. 12,700 on car, pretty darn good with the kitchen sink in the back. Wife takes EVERYTHING!
  • nceencee Posts: 419
    Ok, I know in the past the Toyota Electric Start kit was not highly recommended, is the one for the 2011 any better?

    If folks are going with aftermarket, is there one that seems to work best?

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